new track DLC part 2

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GTP_Cobra
What i cant believe most of all is theres 11 pages on this topic when killer tiller got it right on page 1
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More than 11 pages, there's multiple threads about the same thing just going round and round in circles
 
That's why these threads should be locked straight off, with allowance for discussion of the content directly. If a mod could throw together a sticky basically saying as Killer Tiller did, that if you don't want, don't buy.
 
GODfreyGT5
That's why these threads should be locked straight off, with allowance for discussion of the content directly. If a mod could throw together a sticky basically saying as Killer Tiller did, that if you don't want, don't buy.
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How about no.

These are discussion boards and as long as a post/thread follows the AUP then no reason at all exists to lock a thread or delete a post.

Simply because someone does not see the DLC as 'value' or doesn't intend to buy it does not mean they are not permitted to discuss it. Quite frankly if you want to censor any negative comments, regardless of purchase intention, then this is the wrong site for you.


Scaff
 
GODfreyGT5
That's why these threads should be locked straight off, with allowance for discussion of the content directly. If a mod could throw together a sticky basically saying as Killer Tiller did, that if you don't want, don't buy.
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How many times does it have to be said that this is not a valid reason not to discuss something? Imagine that in other situations, such as a parliament. Would a leader say to anyone objecting their decisions "If you don't like it, move out of my country"? No, they wouldn't.
 
SimonK
How many times does it have to be said that this is not a valid reason not to discuss something? Imagine that in other situations, such as a parliament. Would a leader say to anyone objecting their decisions "If you don't like it, move out of my country"? No, they wouldn't.
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I agree the whole point of these forums is to express your opinion and to gain help if they started to lock threads like that then the spirit of these forums are broken good point simon
 
As the saying goes, "I may not agree with your opinion, but I will fight to the death for you to have it." My earlier post was merely an observation. If we start getting threads locked just because we don't agree with what people are saying, what would be the point of having a forum? The only thing I would hold against anyone is their want to censor their fellow man.
 
R1600Turbo
Exactly. I have never seen a video game developer support a product like PD is supporting GT5.
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The reason 5 gets the support it does is because while many aspects of 5 are great, not all aspects are so great because as Kaz admitted, the game was incomplete on release...dunno about you but when i buy a game i want a game, not half or 3/4's of a game.


R1600Turbo
Nobody seems to be thankful for that.
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Thankful that the community was screaming for paid for DLC to be added to a game that's not even complete?

If people are willing to throw money at me i wouldn't say no and neither would you, Kaz, PD, Sony or anyone else. if the community was more demanding we would ALL be getting this stuff for free, instead of paying for stuff that should have been in the game in the 1st place.

DLC should be what the old expansion packs were, not patches for an incomplete game to make the game what it should have been on release.

Don't get me wrong, i'm all for new content and expansions, but not when it means i have to pay for content that should already be in the game....such as a test track!
 
Dmarc_Atl
The problem I have with the whole " it shouldve been in the game day 1 " arguement is just because the feature was in the previous installments doesnt justify that comment.I can name a crapload of sequels that has less features than it predecessors and a few that include it later as downloadable content ( sims 3 ambititions update added stuff that was present in sims 2) .Im not saying thats a good thing but some of you are acting like this is the first time something like this happened.If it could have been in from the begining it would have been in from the begining.
Secondly, the DLC isnt out yet so you dont know what ALL it features.
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Very nice, some folks need to just get over it. The whole argument It should of been in the game already is old and played out. The game has been out for more than a year now folks get over it.
 
1241Penguin
"A big stupid oval" that almost every fan wanted.

I thought everyone wanted real tracks with corners in them.

Well at least it saves changing gears too much. :-)
..Or steering for that matter.

In fact the track is that long, I think it is mainly for the Red Bull.
It will get boring very quickly, almost immediately, and it didn't need much thought to create.
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1241Penguin
"A big stupid oval" that almost every fan wanted.

I thought everyone wanted real tracks with corners in them.

Well at least it saves changing gears too much. :-)
..Or steering for that matter.

In fact the track is that long, I think it is mainly for the Red Bull.
It will get boring very quickly, almost immediately, and it didn't need much thought to create.
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An oval has corners.

I wanted this track, it might be a little too large for most cars though.
 
1241Penguin
"A big stupid oval" that almost every fan wanted.
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Not me, exactly. But it's stupid to refer to THIS test track as "a big stupid oval".


Do people really not understand why we act defensive over such negatively said things as that? It's pretty much always the same people. Show a little etiquette, at the very least.

Not you, Penguin, in the case that you misinterpret what I've said.


Antonisbob
An oval has corners.

I wanted this track, it might be a little too large for most cars though.
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THAT/THIS is reasonably said and I agree. I'll still use some production cars on it, though.


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poe64
So we're not getting a proper track this time, just a big stupid oval?
Will just wait for a decent track.
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It's a test track for the purpose of testing your cars. If you're not interested in testing your cars on a test track, it's neither the test track that is at fault, nor the people that provide a test track for the fans that wanted a test track to test their cars on.
 
I don't see what the problem is in a track that is 30km long. It's a TEST track, people, so chances are that you'll only be using a portion of the track to calculate 0-60 times, top speed, etc. (As shown in this video) :

 
I like the new addition but I would really wish it would come for free.

I will buy the DLC though. I'm hoping once GT5's DLC days have ended that a Complete Edition will come out. It would be good for milking the cash cow too.
 
yoman297
I will buy the DLC though. I'm hoping once GT5's DLC days have ended that a Complete Edition will come out. It would be good for milking the cash cow too.
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I'm sure it will. That's the video game standard nowadays, to get you to buy a game twice, or if possible, thrice.
 
Im actually excited about this dlc I have my psn wallet topped up in anticipation
 
SimonK
How many times does it have to be said that this is not a valid reason not to discuss something? Imagine that in other situations, such as a parliament. Would a leader say to anyone objecting their decisions "If you don't like it, move out of my country"? No, they wouldn't.
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This analogy is too wrong,
No they wouldn't cause to move out of a country is very difficult, family? language? job? move your staff? The whole new life thing? the place? the weather?...pick a reason.
Plus that a bad political decision can ruin your life as you know it....and if it is that bad (cause either way you cant live in you country any more) eventually you might be forced to leave your country.

A DLC on the other side, "IS AN EXTRA/add-on/ a plus"..... you want to make your game better? you want to have more fun? pay for it.
It isnt that every time a new DLC is coming cancels the game or the features in game that you have already paid for......unlike a decision on the parliament that may reduce you pay check or force more taxes.
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-For the following i know that i will get some heat back but you had it coming.

Many members have used the phrase
"if you dont want it, do not buy it"
Well i imo thats no the right way to put it cause...and i'll take my self for example, i didnt liked the previous DLC, i've said that the cars IMO are rubbish and that was it. I didnt bought it.

With this DLC thats not the case, people arent complaining about the content, they complain cause they really-really like the content but they dont want to pay for it, and cause is the replacement of the TC they stepped on it and the complains gone wild.

So IMO the "if you dont want it, do not buy it"
Should be
"You want it? buy it! If you cant afford it/or dont want to spend money, thats no ones or PD's problem". Period.
 
sdf
This analogy is too wrong,
No they wouldn't cause to move out of a country is very difficult, family? language? job? move your staff? The whole new life thing? the place? the weather?...pick a reason.
Plus that a bad political decision can ruin your life as you know it....and if it is that bad (cause either way you cant live in you country any more) eventually you might be forced to leave your country.

A DLC on the other side, "IS AN EXTRA/add-on/ a plus"..... you want to make your game better? you want to have more fun? pay for it.
It isnt that every time a new DLC is coming cancels the game or the features in game that you have already paid for......unlike a decision on the parliament that may reduce you pay check or force more taxes.
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-For the following i know that i will get some heat back but you had it coming.

Many members have used the phrase
"if you dont want it, do not buy it"
Well i imo thats no the right way to put it cause...and i'll take my self for example, i didnt liked the previous DLC, i've said that the cars IMO are rubbish and that was it. I didnt bought it.

With this DLC thats not the case, people arent complaining about the content, they complain cause they really-really like the content but they dont want to pay for it, and cause is the replacement of the TC they stepped on it and the complains gone wild.

So IMO the "if you dont want it, do not buy it"
Should be
"You want it? buy it! If you cant afford it/or dont want to spend money, thats no ones or PD's problem". Period.
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The anology wasn't perfect no but I wasn't going to spend an hour thinking of something more relevent. The point was still the same

Finally in regards to the original statement or your new revision both still are trying to have the same effect - stopping discussion/posts that aren't positive. I mean we really wouldn't get anywhere with that attitude. Example:

Person A - "I don't like Grand Valley, it could do with some improvements graphically and some better corners".
Person B - "Don't play on Grand Valley then".

Where does that get us on a DISCUSSION board?

I just really don't see why so many feel the need to respond to negative messages in a defensive way. If someone says they think this is too expensive and they won't buy it that is their opinion, why do so many people feel the need to reply and question their opinion or basically tell them to stop posting their negative opinions? Because that is what statements/posts like the above do.
 
SimonK
The anology wasn't perfect no but I wasn't going to spend an hour thinking of something more relevent. The point was still the same

Finally in regards to the original statement or your new revision both still are trying to have the same effect - stopping discussion/posts that aren't positive. I mean we really wouldn't get anywhere with that attitude. Example:

Person A - "I don't like Grand Valley, it could do with some improvements graphically and some better corners".
Person B - "Don't play on Grand Valley then".

Where does that get us on a DISCUSSION board?

I just really don't see why so many feel the need to respond to negative messages in a defensive way. If someone says they think this is too expensive and they won't buy it that is their opinion, why do so many people feel the need to reply and question their opinion or basically tell them to stop posting their negative opinions? Because that is what statements/posts like the above do.
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opinions are good as long as you dont over do it by posting it everywhere I had to stop myself doing that
 
thelvynau
Simon there is posting your opinions then there is forcing your opinion on almost every thread there is a difference
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Please show me where I'm forcing my opinion on people? I said earlier if anyone has a problem with my posts and think they violate the rules in any way they are free to report then and i'll get a warning from a moderator. Not surprisingly that hasn't happened.
 

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