NissanskylineN1's Build - Case Mod Finished..for now

This is the page is where I got that information from. Of course if you are not happy about the fan noise you can always reduce the voltage on the fan by using a fan controller. Something you can easily do with a 5.25" fan controller board.
 
Yeah that was my mistake. I also forgot to also mention that some fans also come with their own fan controllers or a 2 or 3 speed switch. If you are really worried about noise then get this fan. Makes 19DBa of noise and pushes nearly 70CFM.
 
I already have the first part of the build:
The HDD

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There's 2 separate orders. One is coming from the warehouse about 20km away from here. The other from New Jersey.
 
That case was cheaper last week and is still cheaper on amazon.
With that mATX mobo, I'm not sure you'd get the most out of the 2500k. I'm thinking its got 3+1 or 4+1 phase meaning you can't go too far speed/voltage wise. If you buy some sinks for the VRM then maybe. Wait, nevermind. It's a h67 chip so so can you even overclock that thing? If not then it would make the 2500k pointless, no?
You''ll also be fine with 4gb of ram. I got 8gb but that is mostly due to photoshop and other media applications. You'll be fine with 4gb for gaming.
Those rosewill fans are cheap and also push almost no air. Most likley the fans that are included with the case are better.
Power supply is fine.

Man, you guys sure pay a lot for shipping over there.
 
Yeah that's due to shipping the stuff from USA to Canada. As far as I know newegg does not have any warehouses in Canada. Also eSZee, it's too late now. He ordered the parts. You should also be aware that programs are more memory intensive than years ago and that's including windows. It's just better to get 8GB of RAM now than to be stuck with 4GB of RAM in the future where he might not have the money to upgrade plus the motherboard only supports 2 sticks of ram. Which makes upgrades harder and more expensive.
 
I'm aware and 8gb is simply not needed, especially for a 14 year old or however old he is.
He bought a mATX board, the first thing he should upgrade in the future is the mobo so worrying about the limitations of the board shouldn't be part of the equation.
Sorry, I completely missed the 2nd page and didn't know he already ordered.
 
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It Can't overclock.

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Just wasted $20.
 
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GPU Boost will not matter for you. All it does is give the onboard GPU on the Intel CPU chip more resources to process graphics faster. It will not matter because you are going to use an dedicated GPU for your video(It's faster than the Intel graphics anyways).

Edit: Yes the H67 chip can overclock but it would be limited. Not to mention he will be using the Intel heatsink so it does not matter. You don't overclock on a stock heatsink from my experiences.

This is chat from Intel support:
info: Please wait for a site operator to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'Victor'
xx@xxxx.xxx: Hi,
Victor: Hello. Thank you for using the Intel Customer Support chat service. We are glad to be of service. How can I help you today?
xx@xxxx.xxx: According to http://www.intel.com/consumer/game/gaming-power.htm, overclocking 2nd Gen Core processors requires a P67 chipset. According to http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/prodbrief/324586.pdf, H67 supports the overclocking features of unlocked 2nd gen Core processors. Which is correct?
xx@xxxx.xxx: I may add that the overview page for the F67 chipset refers to P67.
xx@xxxx.xxx: H67, I mean, not F.
Victor: On the information that I have, both chipset's H and P will support the overclocking on unlocked processors. This will depend on the integration of the chipset and the BIOS.
xx@xxxx.xxx: Very interesting! Nearly all the reviews I have read state that only P67 supports overclocking.
Victor: Currently in our motherboards the P67 chipset motherboard has enabled the overclocking features.
xx@xxxx.xxx: Thankyou. So it is dependent on the motherboard manufacture as to whether an H67 board can overclock or not, I believe.
Victor: Correct.
xx@xxxx.xxx: OK. Now I know what I'll be doing, thankyou.
Victor: You are welcome and thank you for contacting Intel Customer Support.
Victor: Thank you for using chat. We value your suggestions and would appreciate it if you would take a moment to complete our survey. The survey will appear when you click "Close'' to close the chat window. Have a nice day.
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NissanSkylineN1
EDITED: Still looking for info about H67 OC.
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Look at the online manual for the board. It will show you what you can or can't do in the bios.

I think with h67 you can only OC the turbo mode as there is no bclk OCing meaning no ram overclocking either. There is the EVO version of the asus board and I think that one comes with 8+2 phase and likely a bit more turbo headroom.

nick09
This is chat from Intel support:
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Ehh, I would take what cutomer support tells you with a grain of salkt. They usually know less than the consumer does.
 
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For which motherboard?

Can you change the turbo multipliers?
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answer

nope, grayed out, can't be changed.

cpu multiplier can be changed (max is 38 on 2600k, which is the max turbo multiplier for one core). however, it doesn't really have any effect. when you select 38 and reboot, nothing happens.
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"Overclocking the DH67BL

With the release of the Sandy Bridge platform, Intel has severely limited, even crippled, the ability for most entry- or mid-level users to overclock. In their press documents, Intel announced that "performance tuning" would be limited to only the P67 and Z68 chipsets. The Z68 chipset isn't set to release until the 2nd quarter of 2011, so for now, users are stuck with getting the enthusiast level P67 motherboard if they want to try their hand at overclocking.

The funny part about all this is that the Intel DH67BL motherboard that I received for testing came with the Core i5-2500K processor. The K series of processors come with an unlocked multiplier specifically for overclocking. The i5-2500 is the same processor with a "limited" unlocked multiplier. Even so, only the P67 motherboards can be used to overclock either of these CPUs, so getting a K series processor with an H67 motherboard is a waste of time."
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Keep in mind this is intel stuff and I'm very much not into it. I'm posting as I'm learning.
 
Wait, so the stock multiplier CAN be changed?

Also, Tiger Direct seems to have the 2500k and the mobo bundled together..

I'm talking to Intel live support right now... his name is Victor (Same as the other post!)

lease wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Victor'

Victor: Hello. Thank you for using the Intel Customer Chat Support service. We are glad to be of service. How may I help you?

: Hello

: I have purchased an ASUS

: p8H67 motherboard

: P8H67-M LE

: and I was wondering if it can allow me to adjust the multiplier of a 2500k

Victor: That will depend on your motherboard.

: How?

: As in what circumstances

Victor: That information will be provided by your motherboard manufacturer.

: Is it a BIOS setting or a chipset setting?

Victor: BIOS.

: And you have no idea about that specific board?

Victor: No, this is the chipset support, you will need to contact the support for your motherboard.

: Ok. Thank you very much. Have a nice day!
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However, the BCLK CAN be OC's as well as the RAM
http://support.asus.com/faq/detail....t&os=&no=2B30CD41-4840-B380-9B94-C8ABA4B7CB2A


Here's a vid I found:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6gcFIfSaV8

Seems like the CPU-Turbo ratio IS adjustable.

How about software overclocking?
 
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I would never bother with software overclocking but if the bios can't do much, software won't either.
Yes, the K chips have unlocked multipliers but from what I'm reading, you can only unlock as far as the TURBO mode goes so 37x.

That video shows an EVO board which has quite a few more things available in the bios.
 
Sad face. So what should I do now? I mean, that's still blazingly fast. I can either:

1. Stick with it forever
2. Return and get another mobo (Restocking fee 15%)
3, Use it for a while, then buy another mobo.
 
I agree just stick with it. With your budget you are going to be stuck without a feature. It's nothing to worry about and it will still be fast. It's not even recommended to overclock on a stock Intel heatsink anyways. I know I got my Uncle one of those 1155 EVO boards with the H67 chip. Even though you got a basic board it should still work great.
 
From what I've read online you can't overclock the GPU with this chipset. You can however overclock the memory but I don't think think motherboard would support any speeds over 1333MHz.
 
O.O ..... WTF? How much of an asshole can Intel be?

Actually, apparently you can since the GPU does not rely on the mobo as much.
 
If you really want to overclock then get this board. It has the Z68 chipset and will allow you to overclock the CPU. It's your decision.

I'd recommend booting up the ASUS board and see how the overclock menu works for you before you return it and change to a different board(As you said you might be able to overclock the GPU card).
 
I'm gonna boot it up. I'm either gonna keep it or upgrade to a better one in a few years. As for the GPU, I'll see what happens. Also, MSI is horrid from what I've heard. Overclockers.com even has a group on a thread about it. I used to have an MSI mobo, not that good.
 
I have an MSI motherboard in my parent's computer. It's a AM3 system and it works. Every manufacture can have a bad motherboard. Though I don't have anymore experience with MSI other than my parent's motherboard.
 
NissanSkylineN1
Allright. Now how do I go about OC'ing the GPU?
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The onboard gpu or the 6770 you ordered?
There's a asrock(asus) z68 board for $110 I think.
I think he would be happy with p68 and even what he has now will be fine.
But why didn't you get a microATX case? That's what I would've done if my cooler wasn't so big.
 
That's all software so you should be ok, though I'm not sure how far you'll get with that stock heatsink and the loud fan.
 
Loud? This build doesn't seem to be going well so far...

I'm going to get the fans from TD in a few hours.

The case? I wanted nice cooling for the PC since I was/ might do some OC'ing. Also, it looks badass. :P
 
If the temps get high enough, they will, yeah.
Did you buy a syringe of thermal compound? The stuff that comes with stock coolers is usually pretty bad stuff. Putting on some mx-4 or as5 or cermique would lower the temps a bit. More on the GPU than the cpu.
 
I have some arctic silver at home (Syringe), however I don't know how much is left in it. I'll probably pick up some at TD.
 

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