NSX R vs Murcielago vs Gallardo vs 360 Modena vs M3 CSL vs 911 Turbo

[Steeda]

Twin Ring Motegi Battle
This is a very good race. It gets intense 👍 HAVE A LOOK?

 

[DRIFT GOD]

hell ya that was a great battle,. thanx for posting that bro

 

[CDailey]

Saw it the other day when RollAZN posted it in the BM thread. 👍 Good stuff.

 

[Dorifto]

Great battle!

 

[Darin]

I would've liked it more if that guy wouldn't of talked.

 

[DQuaN]

Great vid, some good examples of heel-toe in there as well.

 

[fast1]

I don't like those races, all drivers obviously don't have equal skills and even if they did, Japanese drivers aren't used to LHD cars and that means that RHD (read: made in japan) cars have noticeable advantage.

The only more or less objective test would be if all cars were LHD (or RHD) and driven by the same driver. Than you could compare lap times which would than mean something. Races are just a show.

 

[ShobThaBob]

I don't like those races, all drivers obviously don't have equal skills and even if they did, Japanese drivers aren't used to LHD cars and that means that RHD (read: made in japan) cars have noticeable advantage.

The only more or less objective test would be if all cars were LHD (or RHD) and driven by the same driver. Than you could compare lap times which would than mean something. Races are just a show.

Ooooobviously, everyone knows that. Oh wait...there are tons of people that DONT realize that if a car wins a best motoring battle that it is > all cars in the battle OMG! Oh well, thats life. Still a cool vid though, and the races are cool to watch.

 

[Carl.]

Nice vid, no conclusions to draw from it, just some fun on the racetrack.

some jobs are more exciting than others...

 

[fast1]

I like the video, but I also woudn't mind seeing each car separately on the track.

 

[Layzie]

Awesome video, nice to see some nice racing.

 

[PSZeTa]

Great video!

*saves as*

BTW, what's the use of the heel-toe technique? I forgot it..

 

[McLaren]

Man, I love those videos. Last month, saw 1 at Tskuba Speedway (short course in GT4) with 2 NSXs, R34, R33, Evo, VI, Evo V and RX7. Pretty cool battle.
Is there a site that has videos like these? Would love to see more.

 

[Ryosuke_Gumna]

Good video of Best MOTOring!

 

[Revheadnz]

Great video!

*saves as*

BTW, what's the use of the heel-toe technique? I forgot it..

Heel and toeing is blipping the throttle on a downshift to match engine speed and road speed for a smoother change that wont upset the car while under heavy braking. Also it saves clutch wear.

 

[skunk]

I don't like those races, all drivers obviously don't have equal skills and even if they did, Japanese drivers aren't used to LHD cars and that means that RHD (read: made in japan) cars have noticeable advantage.

The only more or less objective test would be if all cars were LHD (or RHD) and driven by the same driver. Than you could compare lap times which would than mean something. Races are just a show.

It is a race. It is entertainment. Not a car comparision.

 

[Driftster]

Lol..He's mad because his fav car of the pack didn't place first......"Japanese drivers aren't used to LHD cars".......Such a MEAN statement..

 

[fast1]

I am not mad, although... my favourite car didn't win . I honestly don't like those races, for example in the part where nsx takes over modena, it's obvious that the driver in modena started braking like 50 meters too early. Modena should actually be able to start breaking later than NSX.

Modena:
Braking, 60-0 mph: 110 ft

NSX
Braking, 60-0 mph: 118 ft

And drivers in all other cars, except NSX, most of the time aren't driving on the ideal line. Or when the guy in Murcielago (i think it was the 4th lap) is in the s-curve and the engine is on 4000rpm, he upshifts with no reason and the NSX almost overtakes him.

And it's not a mean statement. I am not complaining, I like the video, I like to see 600hp cars in action. But if you watch more of them, you will notice they always finish in the same way. The only car that overtakes the NSX is some 600+hp car and it's always in the last lap.

 

[Steeda]

And it's not a mean statement. I am not complaining, I like the video, I like to see 600hp cars in action. But if you watch more of them, you will notice they always finish in the same way. The only car that overtakes the NSX is some 600+hp car and it's always in the last lap.

Not quite 600, 580 👍

 

[Bocha]

Man, I love those videos. Last month, saw 1 at Tskuba Speedway (short course in GT4) with 2 NSXs, R34, R33, Evo, VI, Evo V and RX7. Pretty cool battle.
Is there a site that has videos like these? Would love to see more.

Go to the Best MOTRing Official Topic !!!

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=41626

Here is all you need to see more videos like these. 👍

 

[rollazn]

I am not mad, although... my favourite car didn't win . I honestly don't like those races, for example in the part where nsx takes over modena, it's obvious that the driver in modena started braking like 50 meters too early. Modena should actually be able to start breaking later than NSX.

Modena:
Braking, 60-0 mph: 110 ft

NSX
Braking, 60-0 mph: 118 ft

And drivers in all other cars, except NSX, most of the time aren't driving on the ideal line. Or when the guy in Murcielago (i think it was the 4th lap) is in the s-curve and the engine is on 4000rpm, he upshifts with no reason and the NSX almost overtakes him.

And it's not a mean statement. I am not complaining, I like the video, I like to see 600hp cars in action. But if you watch more of them, you will notice they always finish in the same way. The only car that overtakes the NSX is some 600+hp car and it's always in the last lap.

First off you guys, I have this on my Best MOTORing Official topic. Before any of you guys post up a Best MOTORing video, first go over to the Official topic and look if it has been posted before. If not you don’t have to make a new thread, just post it in my Best MOTORing Official topic, and Ill be sure to add the video/ with you name so you will get the credit. However, this has already been posted. .

In addition, the Best MOTORing Official Topic is a sticky, so that is how you can find it. It is always on the top. Feel free to go over, check, or comment about any of those videos. I have a lot. Check it out if you have not already.



Anyways what you are saying is wrong. The NSX you saw in the video is not your typical NSX. It is the 2002 NSX-R. It is just all around quicker than the any other NSX, even the NSX Type S Zero. This is the 2002 NSX-R, the quickest NSX ever made. It weights just under 2800lbs compared to the S Zero weighting in about 3000 lbs give or take. With the weight advantage, and the better brake and suspension modification, the NSX-R should be able to out brake a S Zero or Base NSX easily!

Where did you get the stats for the NSX braking from 0-60, well if that is a base model NSX, then the NSX-R should easily do better!



Edit:All the drivers are professional drivers and have accomplished many wins in their lifes. I do agree that there is a difference in skills with some of the drivers but ALL of them are professional and I will bet that ALL of them have driven a LHD car at some point in their lives. I know Gan-San, guy in the NSX-R, have a Carrera GT. Also hes the one who drives the NSX-R like hell at the Nurburgring. Posting a time of 7 minutes 56 seconds. I have proof also. Video/ pictures.

7:56.xxx is what the NSX-R ran. Along with the time is the Porsche 911 Turbo it also ran 7:56.xxx. Beside just the Turbo, the Porsche GT3 ran a 7:56.xxx and last but not least the 2004 Z06 ran a 7:56.xxx.

Porsche 911 Turbo = 420hp
Corvette Z06 = 405hp
Porsche GT3 = 375hp
NSX-R = 280hp (although the real output is probably around 290 at most!)

Unlike the GTR's, the NSX-R output is very close to what they claim. How do the
NSX-R get the times with other drivers in the higher power cars? The only thing comes to my head is cornering and braking. Where else would the NSX-R take it?!

I know not on the striaghts.

 

[I6-4-eva]

7:56.xxx is what the NSX-R ran. Along with the time is the Porsche 911 Turbo it also ran 7:56.xxx. Beside just the Turbo, the Porsche GT3 ran a 7:56.xxx and last but not least the 2004 Z06 ran a 7:56.xxx.

Porsche 911 Turbo = 420hp
Corvette Z06 = 405hp
Porsche GT3 = 375hp
NSX-R = 280hp (although the real output is probably around 290 at most!)

what about the modena?

 

[rollazn]

http://www.nordschleife.no/

Alot of times, there are some that aren't added though.

Can't find the 360 Modena.


20,832 km 8,09 = 153 km/h Lamborghini Diablo SV 520 ps.
20,600 km 8,04 = 153 km/h Lamborghini Diablo GT, Sport Auto 2000.
20,832 km 8,08 = 153 km/h Standard CBR 900 -92, Gerry Nordström, BIKE, Sweden, 1992.
20,600 km 8,05 = 153 km/h 2002 Ferrari 575 Maranello, Sport Auto 2002.


20,600 km 8,09 = 152 km/h Ferrari 360, Sport Auto 2000.

8.09, way slower than the GT3, Turbo, and NSX-R. But this is not the modena one.

The Evo ran 8,09 too!

 

[Driftster]

I just want to know how the NSX-R overheated in so few laps....I've never heard of ANY honda EVER overheating that fast....especially in stock trim....I mean damn....They must have been driving that thing to death all day,

 

[rollazn]

Look at the end. The NSX-R driver aka Gan San, pushed it too much. You can tell where he brakes and he lose a few seconds due to overheating.

 

[fast1]

rollazn, i know that was NSX-R, but i couldn't find breaking info anywhere. i was trying for about 3 minutes, than i posted the only one i could find.

 

[Driftster]

ok...the BRAKES overheated..ook.....I thought the ENGINE overheated...

 

[fast1]

Kurosawa says: "The car overheated!". I don't think he is talking about the brakes.

 

[rollazn]

No, the engine did overheat. Look at the ending. You can see that he push the NSX-R too hard, it overheated. Look at him, hes pushing it hard.

 

[rollazn]

Kurosawa says: "The car overheated!". I don't think he is talking about the brakes.

Yeah, it was the engine. It overheated because he pushed the NSX-R too hard. You have to push really hard to get a NSX-R as fast as a Lamborghini Mucelago.