Nurburgring f1 Question

[GM]

I remember the german grand prix on the nurburgring to be on a much smaller track than the one on gt4 ,am I right or do they use the whole circuit?

Thanks,
George

 

[amp88]

I remember the german grand prix on the nurburgring to be on a much smaller track than the one on gt4 ,am I right or do they use the whole circuit?

Thanks,
George

The Nubrugring track featured in GT4 is the Nurburgring Nordschleife (the North Loop of the Nubrurgring). No F1 race has been held there since the late 1970s (was too dangerous, many drivers killed, Niki Lauda almost killed). The GP moved to the current Nurburgring track, which is attached to the Nordschleife but does not use any of the Nordschleife. The current Grand Prix track is not featured in GT4.

edit: Here's a picture to explain:

 

[Lee]

Which is why, on GT4 at the last corner of Nordschleife if you look on the horizon you can see the grand prix track.

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Which is why, on GT4 at the last corner of Nordschleife if you look on the horizon you can see the grand prix track.

Yes, actually, if the barrier weren't there, and you went straight on, you would be on the GP track.

There's some video footage of a V8-STAR car running in the Nurb 24hr race, which uses both tracks. Have a search around, you should find it.

 

[amp88]

Yes, actually, if the barrier weren't there, and you went straight on, you would be on the GP track.

There's some video footage of a V8-STAR car running in the Nurb 24hr race, which uses both tracks. Have a search around, you should find it.

Yeah, there are a number of videos of laps which link between the Grand Prix circuit and the Nordschleife, including the famous (and fantastic) Hans Stuck M3 GTR qualifying lap, here.

 

[Omnis]

Also, in some Nurb videos, you'll see the cars have to coast around the grand prix track before getting on the large track. At a lot of open track days, the grand prix track and its pit are used as kind of a super-large pit area.

 

[F1GTR]

I remember that in GT4 you can actually 'break though' and get into the GP track.

 

[amp88]

Another (small-ish) point is that the Grand Prix currently held at the Nurburgring is the European Grand Prix, not the German Grand Prix. The German Grand Prix is held at Hockenheim.

 

[Omnis]

which is also shortened.

 

[Mr. Boy]

I remember that in GT4 you can actually 'break though' and get into the GP track.

Now how do you do THAT!? (If its by using a cheat device, don't bother.)

 

[Kylehnat]

Set the F1 car to negative downforce and get going really fast...

 

[Pupik]

The German GP was held on the "New Nurburgring" just once, in 1985.

 

[Kylehnat]

It may move back there again in the not too distant future.

 

[z-reserve]

It may move back there again in the not too distant future.

...instead of the European GP (the German event being set up at the "new" Hockenheim ).

 

[lokness]

I remember that in GT4 you can actually 'break though' and get into the GP track.

LIE! unless your joking. which aint funny...if your joking.

 

[liam2maps]

Hockenheim was one of the worst tracks for Formula 1. Downright deadly. I'm sorry to say. I mean I love nearly all things German but the track was extremely dangerous. Horrible track to drive on. Thank god they've fixed it, shame they went overboard.

I bet I'm the ONLY ONE who feels this way.

 

[Threshold]

You guys think it would be a good idea to resurface the North portion of the Ring to attract more races to be held there? The bumps are probably the reason Ferrari doesn't test there.

 

[Wolfe]

I felt that I should point out that the Nordschleife by itself (ie not using any of the GP track, aka Sudschleife) is only used for tourist laps, which enter halfway-down Dottinger-Hohe. Any races that use the Nordschleife start and pit at the Sudschleife, including the still-running annual 24h of Nurburgring.

You guys think it would be a good idea to resurface the North portion of the Ring to attract more races to be held there? The bumps are probably the reason Ferrari doesn't test there.

They resurface it all of the time. Maintaining 12 miles of almost-80-year-old pavement that is used pretty much every single day can't be very easy.

 

[graveslids]

I felt that I should point out that the Nordschleife by itself (ie not using any of the GP track, aka Sudschleife) is only used for tourist laps, which enter halfway-down Dottinger-Hohe. Any races that use the Nordschleife start and pit at the Sudschleife, including the still-running annual 24h of Nurburgring.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the GP track was built over the Sudschleife, destroying it in the process. Granted that the GP track connects to the Nordschleife in the much the same manner as the Sudschleife did, I thought the new stretch of track was known as the GP track or something of the like, and the Sudschleife has just past into motor history.

As an example of what the Sudschleife was like, take a look at this 1960's era (I believe) postcard scan of the Nurburgring complex. It's a shot overlooking Kallenhard towards the southeast, leaving the Sudschleife at the top left hand corner of the track.