Nurburgring Race Series - Week 1! (With Voting Results)

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TheWizard
If you guys are wondering about power related differences between various screens, here is a good explanation:

Quick Clarification About Power/Torque Figures and Units

Hope this helps.
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Yes, I've read your explination post, before. It's awesome and very helpful.

My solution has been to just set my power units to PS so that the numbers agree everywhere. Trouble is, most people talk in HP units so it's kind of a pain to convert things to what I see in the game.

Pretty silly that changing the units in the options doesn't effect all the displays in the game.
 
I was just about to link to that TheWizard :lol: 👍

I remember us doing that all that time ago!
 
Soyfu
Yes, I've read your explination post, before. It's awesome and very helpful.

My solution has been to just set my power units to PS so that the numbers agree everywhere. Trouble is, most people talk in HP units so it's kind of a pain to convert things to what I see in the game.

Pretty silly that changing the units in the options doesn't effect all the displays in the game.
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Setting the units to PS would be a solution, indeed. But like you, I think in HP, so it isn't really much of a solution :D

I don't see how hard it could have been to make the units agree on every screen :confused:

I can understand the fact that the power shown on the replay is the power the car would have once the engine is completely worn out - but that doesn't make much more sense either, as it is not mentioned anywhere in the manual where that figure came from.

Small_Fryz
I was just about to link to that TheWizard :lol: 👍

I remember us doing that all that time ago!
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Yeah :D
That was a very long time ago, wasn't it!

Time goes by too fast... Boy do I feel old ;)

EDIT: Anyway, just to be at least a little bit on topic, I have done at least 10 laps since this afternoon. It is really an enjoyable race. The car has little grip, but the power is low as well, so it is quite balanced. It could use N3 or Sports tires, to make it even better, but I can't complain too much.

Best T10 I have seen was a 8'10.xxx, which means one of the following things:

1) Either OnlyMe is a pretty damn good D3 racer
2) Or I am completely out of shape

Not to take anything out of OnlyMe's skills, but I think most of the problem is the second option :indiff: I haven't been racing for the WRS here lately and that's really hurting me. Plus my knowledge of the Nurburgring is still quite limited, as I haven't raced on it since WRS Week 6 :O (and even then I didn't do too good...)

Well, I better get some more laps in...

The Wizard.
 
Hi all,

i got a question asked about the sports clutch i mentioned in the specific tuning, just to clarify its the "large single clutch at you Mazdaspeed shop 👍

First splits for me :

T2 1'37.876
T4 3'15.998
T7 5'45.799
T10 7'55.954

Im finding the suspension transforms the little MX-5 and should give us a very good basis to start week 1 with 👍

Only problem i seem to have is with braking a little too late occasionally and that usually results in a bit of oversteer which is slowing me in a couple of corners..

Out of the box i found the basic setup quite balanced, i changed ride height to 116/116 and havent played with that much yet, i changed dampers to 3/3 and again have yet to really look at them but any harder seemed to get the car a bit to stiff for the Rings bumps and dips...

Camber i have messed with and ended up with 2.2 F and 1.8 R, i found too much more at either end gave me less steering feel and it was harder to judge the cars limits, a bit less at the back seemed to work for me and has given me a quite neutral set up.

Bart i would turn the aids off mate, theres no need for them here and they will slow you down lots 👎

Interestingly the Flugplatz is still flat out in 4th regardless of the gear indicator :)

cheers all :cheers:

Dave
 
TheWizard
Best T10 I have seen was a 8'10.xxx, which means one of the following things:

1) Either OnlyMe is a pretty damn good D3 racer

The Wizard.
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Ooooh! This does wonders for my ego :D
 
T10 at 7.39.848 at the first lap. Am I doing something wrong? :boggled:
 
zoxxy
T10 at 7.39.848 at the first lap. Am I doing something wrong? :boggled:
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The short answer is if you set up your car according to the specifics in post no2 then no! Have you checked your running correct weight/power/N2 tyres??


regards

Dave
 
Oops! :D I used S2 tyres... :ouch:
 
zoxxy
Oops! :D I used S2 tyres... :ouch:
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Phew....!!

One again as in the warm up a reminder to all to check your on correct rubber 👍

Dave
 
Kolyana
AH MAAAN! I hate that freaking Mazda!!!!!! Ever since the damned Hong Kong License test, me and that damned thing DO NOT get along. :( :( :(
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Dont worry Nat its a completely different car with the sports suspension 👍

Like to say a welcome also to Dr Watson to the series :cheers:

Dave
 
Very frustrating day at the ring for me. Turned off the aids as per Dave's suggestion. Think I drove about 320 km in total, and got a total of 2 (!) clean laps :dunce: Was about ready to eat my controller :indiff:

Got some better looking splits though and shaved about 7 secs off my total time 👍

T2: 1'38.275
T4: 3'17.732
T7: 5'49.294
T10: 8'00.960

Board updated!
 
Well, after finally getting some seat time finally and making sure I have all the correct settings/tire combos, first splits are as follows:

T2: 1'40:419
T4: 3'20:156
T7: 5'551:687
T10: 8'36:043


Will get some more laps in tomorrow (Hopefully) to see if I can get those times down near where everyone else is! :-) ...that and do some more testing on the suspension....initially lowered the car down to 118 front & back 3/3 on the dampers (?) but the rear-end is still just a tad too wobbly for me but at least it's manageable for now! :D
 
OnlyMe
Very frustrating day at the ring for me. Turned off the aids as per Dave's suggestion. Think I drove about 320 km in total, and got a total of 2 (!) clean laps :dunce: Was about ready to eat my controller :indiff:

Got some better looking splits though and shaved about 7 secs off my total time 👍
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Know the feeling Bart i just got in from work and had a go.....could keep up with my ghost from this morning but couldnt get past T3 without coming off somehwere, just shows you what being tired does for racing 👎

See turning the aids off found at least 7 seconds 👍 :sly:

regards

Dave
 
Will have some laps tonight!
 
I have been doing a few more laps.

Almost had a clean, sub 8 minute @ T10 run, but my car went off in the least expected spot. :indiff:

I will make a good, clean run.
Just not tonight.

The Wizard.
 
Covered about 230km so far, finding this little beasty very oversteery :scared:, seriously could not complete a lap with the suspension stock. ( all aids off )
Lowered the rear end only to - 118
Rear damper down to - 2
Rear Camber up - 2

Suprisingly to me i actually felt the difference in the cars behaviour after applying these changes, ( which is a first for me when it comes to trying to tune cars in GT4 ) the rear end definatly gripping more, feeling much more stable in high speed corners.
Anyway it helped and i have 1 clean lap saved :p
T2 - 1.41.0
T4 - 3.23.0
T7 - 5.57.1
T10 - 8.14 .0

Not earth shattering , but it was fun and the replay looks real cool :D
Pressing on to lower that time a bit yet, as there are some outstanding times posted
already here, and that gives me something to chase, and chase and chase .........

Steve
 
My settings so far.

Front ride height 116, rear is min (higher front than rear gives less oversteer, low ride height has less body roll, so corners better and weight shifting isnt so eratic. Too low and car is very bouncy as he lower you take this the higher you need spring rates to stop bottoming out.)
Front Damper is 8 rear is 3 (higher front than rear = less oversteer softer settings are good for bumpy tracks, too hard and the car jumps a bit over bumps, too soft and car is very floaty and has too much roll.)
Front camber is 2.5 rear is .5 (normally dont run more than 3 for front, and 1.5 - 2 for rear. normally want a bit for both, as when the car turns the tires roll and thus if you have some camber the tires will roll and all the tyre surface will be on the track and thus give you most grip, may set more on rear to stop oversteering :D)


Nurb normally needs a meduim setup, not to soft because its fast, but not to hard because its bumpy, but this car is slow and the ride height is still very high even at min setting, so you can have min setting ride height but still quite a soft setup for dampers, you dont want too soft though or the body roll is bad and thus makes oversteer and cornering as well as controlling the car even worse.

no aids.

had 1 lap 7'59.xxx, nothing worth posting as i think it was dirty.

(disclamier all my bull**** above is my findings from the game, and it may or may not be truth :lol: )
 
Well i found that i had to turn the ghost off cause following my clean lap i couldnt concentrate at all and kept going off...

Was 2 seconds up on a brilliant lap and dropped the back end into the gravel at schwalbenschwanz just before the mini carussell, lap was destroyed... 👎

I find that even the slightest change of ride height even 1mm front or rear affects the balance or understeer/oversteer on this car and as such have settled with 116/116 for a neutral balance, dampers still on 3/3 and camber i have slightly changed to 2.1F and 2.0R as again adjusting in increments of 1 can be felt on track, really enjoying this though 👍

regards

Dave
 
I hope my settings stuff made sense 👍
 
Small_Fryz
I hope my settings stuff made sense 👍
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Made perfect sense to me mate 👍 I might try your settings when i get home tonight, mine seem to give a neutral balance with over/understeer on demand which i like but im trying to learn about setup so the more people who post these the better :)

Your post was just what i wanted people to do, cheers.

Dave
 
I'm getting the hang of this :p Finally a T10 under 8 mins.

T2: 1'37.812
T4: 3'16.988
T7: 5'46.632
T10: 7'57.565

Still lost a little bit of time in 2 places (Adenauer and Wippermann), but I doubt if I'll be able to pick that up. A lap around the ring with every bend inch-perfect exists only in dreams...

But still, another 4 sec's of the total time. Me is happy :D

By the way, if anyone's interested, I ran these settings:
Ride height: F116 / R112
Damper: F5 / R3
Camber: F1.7 / R0.5
Aids: 1/0/0
 
Nice choice on the car, including the upgrades. 👍 Will give this one a go tonight.

Laters 👍
 
OnlyMe
I'm getting the hang of this :p Finally a T10 under 8 mins.

T2: 1'37.812
T4: 3'16.988
T7: 5'46.632
T10: 7'57.565

Still lost a little bit of time in 2 places (Adenauer and Wippermann), but I doubt if I'll be able to pick that up. A lap around the ring with every bend inch-perfect exists only in dreams...

But still, another 4 sec's of the total time. Me is happy :D

By the way, if anyone's interested, I ran these settings:
Ride height: F116 / R112
Damper: F5 / R3
Camber: F1.7 / R0.5
Aids: 1/0/0
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Making some fantastic progress there Bart, how long before you switch off that final click of ASM i see there :sly:

Adenauer is a tricky one, if you downloaded the pdf of the ideal line around the ring you will see its quite a strange entry in after the braking zone coming up the hill, but when you get it right it makes sense as you dont go wide and as a result are lined up for the chicane which i take on about half throttle in 2nd, saying and doing it are two different things though and trying to be consistent is key 👍

I will give your settings a try tonight (3 more hours of work yet) when i get home.

Could i ask a favour of everyone? When you PM me your final laptime will you include details of your suspension settings...i want to try and look at the data and see if a pattern emerges and share the feedback with everyone for future setups 👍

:cheers:

Dave
 
I havent driven a miata/mx5 since gt3 and I avoided it back then like the plague.
 
Had a go tonight with Onlyme and Small_Fryz settings but couldnt get anything down, felt a bit too snappy from under to oversteer on both, i changed some to create something in between my own and their settings approx 116/114 ride height, 4/3 or 5/4 dampers and am playing with camber all the time, seen a 7'53.xxx T10 and 3 seconds off my lap only to discover it was illegal upon watching the replay, i know ive got seconds to come off tho....just a case of finding them.

cheers

Dave
 
Have I mentioned how much I HATE this car? 🤬

Does anyone have any advice for the back end swing on this thing? How to minimize it and what the hell to do when it starts?
 
Three runs later ... 8'08:505 (T10) ... lots of time to gain and currently running stock, but at least it's clean 👍
 
i will be trying it tomorrow, looking for my definitive time. :)
 
Kolyana
Does anyone have any advice for the back end swing on this thing? How to minimize it and what the hell to do when it starts?
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Downshift and counter-steer.

T10 8'22.xxx (clean lap and drifted every corner). Miata rules!
 
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