Peugeot SR1 Concept

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Looks better than the 407 coupe, thats for sure.
 
For some reason, it doesn't look like a new car to me. Rather, reminds me of an older concept car.
 
If you disregard the nose, from the windshield to the back it looks similar to the current Eclipse.
 
I love the shape. Actually I like pretty much everything about it. It's very well proportioned, it has great curves, nice and modern details and the look that it could see production one day.

Put on some proper headlights and make a more attractive grille for production and it would be a dead sexy car for Peugeot showrooms.
 
I like it...but it looks more...British, than French....

It reminds me of an Aston.

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It looks like the Toyota Ft-86 Concept.

It does, doesn't it? It reminds of both the FT-86 and the GT by Citroen car. I love it though, it looks phenomenal. The way the lines flow together from the A-pillar into the back window and meet the rear fenders is astonishing. 👍
 
It certainly is a return to form for Peugeot. (Although I like the 308/308CC)

The 308s are hideous, IMO. This concept is better, but although it's "nice", it's still strangely bland. Peugeot needs to find their own design identity again, and I really don't think in-house designers are the way to go. Not a single modern Peugeot has been attractive since they stopped getting Pininfarina to pen the shapes.
 
It's interesting, still no where near as nice looking as the 406 Coupe. That car jsut hit the nail on the noggin. I would say that was where Peugeot peaked, but since Peugeot didn't design the 406 Coupe, I won't.
 
This concept is better, but although it's "nice", it's still strangely bland.

What's wrong with bland? IMO, a lot of very attractive cars are pretty "bland." But maybe that's just because I don't like overstyled cars? Nobody is going to like every detail on some new cars that have very complex styling. And those elements that don't quite fit the car make it difficult for the car to go from looking 'nice' or 'good' to looking beautiful or whatever.

It's so much easier to make a bland car with an excellent shape and use your pen wisely and conservatively if you want to make a truly great looking car.
 
I like it...but it looks more...British, than French....

It reminds me of an Aston.

That's probably why I like it too. (Despite the fact that I usually hate French cars) Even though I agree it looks like an Aston Martin, I think it more closely follows the design cues of the Vantage rather than the DB9.

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I think the only thumbs-down I have on this car is the fact that it's a hybrid. Other than that, I like it.
 
The 308s are hideous, IMO. This concept is better, but although it's "nice", it's still strangely bland. Peugeot needs to find their own design identity again, and I really don't think in-house designers are the way to go. Not a single modern Peugeot has been attractive since they stopped getting Pininfarina to pen the shapes.

Do you like the new RC-Z coupe?
 
What's wrong with bland?

It bores me. Would you go out with a bland girl?...

IMO, a lot of very attractive cars are pretty "bland."

I disagree. Genuinely attractive cars are often very distinctive. A Ferrari looks like a Ferrari, if you removed all the badges you could still tell exactly who made it. Same goes for Lamborghinis, same goes for Porsches, same even goes for Renaults. The Peugeot we're all discussing just looks like "generic convertible" with a few hints of Aston Martin. Peugeot really need their own design language, something that makes you think "yep, that's a Peugeot". The old Pininfarina ones had that. The only thing that makes you think "yep, that's a Peugeot" with modern Pugs is the bloody awful grille they attach to all of them.

But maybe that's just because I don't like overstyled cars?

A nice design doesn't have to be overstyled. In fact, I'd usually say quite the opposite. From my posts on this forum by now you should be aware that I despise ostentatious cars - my tastes are usually pretty simple. But I dislike bland.

Nobody is going to like every detail on some new cars that have very complex styling. And those elements that don't quite fit the car make it difficult for the car to go from looking 'nice' or 'good' to looking beautiful or whatever.

It's so much easier to make a bland car with an excellent shape and use your pen wisely and conservatively if you want to make a truly great looking car.

I disagree. No cars that I'd call pretty are bland, they're simply well designed. The Peugeot does have a nice silhouette admittedly, but it's let down by some odd details and a lack of anything that makes it a Peugeot, IMO.

I dunno, there's just something about it that doesn't really speak to me. I can't remember a Peugeot concept car that I haven't found a bit lacklustre.

Do you like the new RC-Z coupe?

This?

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No, not really. It's potentially a nice car, but completely and totally spoiled by the front end. The lights and grille are hilariously out of proportion. Peugeot is definitely a manufacturer that needs to learn a bit of subtlety. Unfortunately, unlike Citroen, their badge isn't of a shape (like Citroen's chevrons) that you can make a natural front end out of, so what they tend to do is just attach a massive badge to the front and give it a huge, gaping grille.

I've mentioned it before, but I find it impressive how Citroen and Peugeot, both from the PSA group, have managed a complete turnaround in their designs. Citroens used to be bland when Peugeots were pretty, and now Citroens look fantastic and Peugeots hideous. Now we just need both manufacturers to have their act together at the same time...
 
Why do I feel like this car sees what I did there?
 
The Peugeot we're all discussing just looks like "generic convertible" with a few hints of Aston Martin. Peugeot really need their own design language, something that makes you think "yep, that's a Peugeot". The old Pininfarina ones had that. The only thing that makes you think "yep, that's a Peugeot" with modern Pugs is the bloody awful grille they attach to all of them.

I totally agree - It does look a bit anonymous.
 
I disagree. Genuinely attractive cars are often very distinctive. A Ferrari looks like a Ferrari, if you removed all the badges you could still tell exactly who made it. Same goes for Lamborghinis, same goes for Porsches, same even goes for Renaults. The Peugeot we're all discussing just looks like "generic convertible" with a few hints of Aston Martin. Peugeot really need their own design language, something that makes you think "yep, that's a Peugeot". The old Pininfarina ones had that. The only thing that makes you think "yep, that's a Peugeot" with modern Pugs is the bloody awful grille they attach to all of them.

Does a car (especially a concept) really have to have that brand identity to make a good design? True, I wouldn't have a clue what brand the SR1 is from without Pug badges, but I think it looks quite alright if you simply look at it as a car.
 
You're a good designer when you have the guts to move on and design everything from scratch. Without any influences from the past. In my opinion.
This is a good step from peugeot. Perhaps the production model will look better, with decent lights.
 
Does a car (especially a concept) really have to have that brand identity to make a good design? True, I wouldn't have a clue what brand the SR1 is from without Pug badges, but I think it looks quite alright if you simply look at it as a car.

I partly agree - as a "car" it's fine, but it's just too generic. It was designing like this that encouraged the phrase in the 80s and 90s that "all cars look the same", and then companies like Ford came up with distinctive designs (the "edge design" phase which produced the Mk1 Focus, the Ka, the Puma etc) and it pushed other companies to do the same. Citroens were boring as hell throughout the 90s, and now they produce some of the most pleasing designs on the market.

Peugeot used to benefit from pretty Pininfarina lines (off the top of my head, the 106, 205, 306, 405, 406 and 406 Coupe were all Pininfarina, though there could be more). Each one was amongst the nicest design in their classes. Then they went in-house and everything went to pot overnight.

Now? Well, they're slowly improving and I do admit that the SR1 is a hell of a lot better than any current Pug, but they've only done that by taking bits from a bunch of other good-looking cars rather than coming up with something original, and a design language that could translate well to the rest of their range.

You're a good designer when you have the guts to move on and design everything from scratch. Without any influences from the past. In my opinion.

I also agree, but I wouldn't say that Peugeot have exactly designed this "from scratch". As has been pointed out, there are a lot of similarities with other cars. For me, it's not original enough.
 
Of course it looks like an Aston, because Aston Martins are as generic as a beige pantsuit.

I like this car, a lot.
 

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