Piracy I love it!!!!!!

[Duke]

Originally posted by slip2rock
Are you all so niaive as to think that prices for games are high because of piracy?

No, I'm not. But it is a contributing factor. The sooner a game pays off its development costs, the sooner the price comes down. That obviously takes more time that revenue is lost to piracy.

Prices are high because demand is high.

Personally, I don't have a problem with that. Does that mean I'm made of money? No. It means that I think I should reward the people who make games I like. That's incentive for them to make more.

Look at it this way: economy cars have a razor-thin profit margin, if they have one at all. In fact, the original Escort never directly made a profit for Ford (I can explain that if you wish). And exactly how often do we see cutting edge technology in economy cars? Almost never - except when it is trickled down from more expensive products that paid for its development.

The same is true with games. You want 1000 cars and 100 tracks in GT4? That ain't free. A lot of what pays for that kind of development is the profit from previous games.

And while your all screaming about this bit of piracy..... just dl a few more tunes on kazaa and chill out a bit. Then go browse for the company accounts of these software giants. And don't bleat on about the little guys being put out of business, they just get bought by their competitors or squeezed out of the market by the big guys.

...if they're lucky. That is the "little guys" dream - to come up with an idea good enough that you get an opportunity to sell out. But what if you can't afford to develop your band/game/whatever enough to sell it? Then a good idea is lost, or a good band dissolves, or whatever.

I've got no problem with game companies making as much money as they can. It benefits me in the long run as I've demonstrated.

But all of that is missing the point entirely. The fact remains that it's not ethical to pirate intellectual property. If I'm not willing to pay for it, then I don't get to play it. Simple as that.

 

[keeno_uk]

Originally posted by neon_duke
No, I'm not. But it is a contributing factor. The sooner a game pays off its development costs, the sooner the price comes down. That obviously takes more time that revenue is lost to piracy.
.

Explain Halo which even now nearly after a year of its release it still bloody costs £45. My theory is that the longer a game stays popular the longer the price stays at £40 or £45 and its up to retail company e.g. Game and Virgin megastores, to put what price they want on the game. Games are purchased directly from a games companies with whatever that company has priced them and of course the retail companies buy their items in bulk

 

[keeno_uk]

I can take this critisizm, this stuff just bounces off me like a brick wall I get worser comments on my thursday night pool

 

[km]

Originally posted by keeno_uk
Explain Halo which even now nearly after a year of its release it still bloody costs £45. My theory is that the longer a game stays popular the longer the price stays at £40 or £45 and its up to retail company e.g. Game and Virgin megastores, to put what price they want on the game. Games are purchased directly from a games companies with whatever that company has priced them and of course the retail companies buy their items in bulk

Halo is a "Microshaff" thing and we all know how they work all they want is money and more money that's why

 

[Frodo]

he probably started the thread so other people like him could shar ther piracy times even though that is not good, it was never ment for criticicm but mayby it will not efect keeno but you( mile fine) out of respect should just stop critisising him. Or mayby you( keeno) should just start a new thread abought a whole new topic.

Mayby that would setle things a little ok you probably should it is probably for the best so people will stop bickering just try and see what will fold out for you ok thanx

 

[Sage]

Originally posted by keeno_uk
Explain Halo which even now nearly after a year of its release it still bloody costs £45... (etc.)

You're still missing the whole ethical point.

Originally posted by Frodo
he probably started the thread so other people like him could shar ther piracy times even though that is not good, it was never ment for criticicm but mayby it will not efect keeno but you( mile fine) out of respect should just stop critisising him. Or mayby you( keeno) should just start a new thread abought a whole new topic.

Criticism is disrespectful?

I hate to sound like an echo, but if he didn't want the criticism, he shouldn't have made this thread, especially with its particular title. And since keeno is practically welcoming the criticism now, what's the point in standing up for him in that sense?

 

[The Porko]

Originally posted by risingson77
http://www.gamefaqs.com

I don't even need to talk to someone when I want to cheat.

Just get over it...find another way to make a contribution to GTP.

Totally agree, but i also get cheats from www.bestcheats.com. Sorry Frodo but ppl aint going to be asking u for cheats, when theres so many sites for them

P.S Sorry for Being OT

*Goes and site back on the crouch with some popcorn, watching everyone argue*

 

[Frodo]

hey porko just to let you know and every one els i prety much let the cheats go unless someone asks me see you would have already known that if you looked at my thread not to be offensive or anyting just thought i let you know sorry

lets (you and me) not get in to a big conflict together because i have a lot of people who realy dislike me so we should not fight thanx

 

[Flerbizky]

Originally posted by The Porko
*Goes and site back on the crouch with some popcorn, watching everyone argue*

Got room for one more ?.. I'll bring beer...

 

[RallyF1]

so what if you bought a copy of a game, it is called a copy not a pirated copy. the only reason thy call it that is because the industry want's it to sound awfull.
besides there are software out there which allow you to mke copy of your ps2 games. in my case i have the copy all i do is rent burn and keep the copy for me, i'm not selling them or makin money out of these copies, then why not.
i understand lot of people put in a lot of time in making these games so they are getting hurt when we do that.
but why don't they drop the prices that way they would sell more, why is it that pc games are always less expensive than console games!!!
in my case i am into racing games, and i will pay whatever they ask for for a good racing game like gt3 but other games are not worth even 10 $.
in the states we can manage to pay 50$ for a new game even though to me it's a little bit over priced when it comes to the quality of the game you are buying, but in the u.k. for instance they pay 50 pounds for a game that's the equivilant of 75$!!!!
i think this is too much, don't you think

 

[Frodo]

i am the 100th post lets celebrate

 

[Flerbizky]

Originally posted by Frodo
i am the 100th post lets celebrate

Check again

 

[Frodo]

What do you mean i am the 100th person and you are posted as 101 when you posted i am very sorry but i am the 100th person

 

[km]

Originally posted by Frodo
What do you mean i am the 100th person and you are posted as 101 when you posted i am very sorry but i am the 100th person

dum ass your 101 get a life go back a play your harry potter game

 

[km]

and some one as dum as u would celberate something like this

 

[milefile]

Heh.

 

[The Porko]

Originally posted by Flerbizky
Got room for one more ?.. I'll bring beer...

Always have room for 1 more, especially if they have beer

 

[Flerbizky]

Originally posted by The Porko
Always have room for 1 more, especially if they have beer

Wicked See you on the porch... Is Carlsberg ok ?

 

[km]

here somthing for u frodo

http://wench.little-gamers.com/index.php?strip_id=583

 

[Frodo]

mayby it is stupid to celabrate it butt knowing you km you actually took it serious and me and every els one knows that is stupid but you were stupid enough to take it serious and i do not like Harry potter i just put that on my poll so shut the **** up and get a life and i will not go to that site it was ment for you

 

[Vasco]

err...you were post number 101, reply number 100 Frodo... If you celebrate every time a thread gets 100 posts, you really should rethink that...

 

[km]

Originally posted by Frodo
mayby it is stupid to celabrate it butt knowing you km you actually took it serious and me and every els one knows that is stupid but you were stupid enough to take it serious and i do not like Harry potter i just put that on my poll so shut the **** up and get a life and i will not go to that site it was ment for you

do u even know what that site is

 

[The Porko]

Originally posted by Flerbizky
Wicked See you on the porch... Is Carlsberg ok ?

Perfect, any 1 else want to watch from the couch, we all ready have popcorn and beer.

 

[Vasco]

Oh yeh, but no grog for me thanks, I'll just bring along a Sprite.

 

[Flerbizky]

Wuuuhuuuuu.. More beer for the rest of us

 

[sn00pie]

What purpose is this thread still serving?

Do I hear a none? I think so.