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PS4
Dimensions Approx. 275×53×305 mm (width × height × length)


PS3 Slim
Dimensions Approx 290(w) x 65(h) x 290(l) mm

That really is amazing, this thing is smaller than the PS3 Slim except in length, slightly.
 
mcfizzle
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/130611a_e.html

Spec Sheet. Looks like they plan on including an HDMI cable plus headset. Also confirms North America and Europe this holiday season, no mention of Japan.
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Looks like the Playstation eye can record 3D Ultra Slow Motion footage at 240fps (Which is 8x slower when played back at 30fps), albeit in a lower resolution.

Also the playstation 4 only weighs 2.8 kg, whereas the original PS3 weighed about 7kg!

And like Samus said, slimmer than the PS3 Slim! Not bad!
 
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Samus
That really is amazing, this thing is smaller than the PS3 Slim except in length, slightly.
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:dunce:

I was expecting it to be larger being a more powerful machine needing better cooling and all but kudos to Sony. 👍

Also that "augmented reality 3D holographic thing" looks really cool. :D
 
Hmm, the cheapest we can pre-order the PS4 for in Sweden is 428 SEK, which is equivalent to €494, £421 and $655! Is this fair? It means Sony will earn more if I buy it than if an American does, doesn't it?

Yes, I know it has to do with us having a stronger currency, but still. :p

EDIT: Wait a minute. The price for the Xbox One is the same! Something is wrong here...
 
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I hope the capacitive touchpad is configurable as a button. Assign it as the accelerator for wall-riding oval endurance races. GT3 would've been so much easier if I could have just left a sausage weenie on my controller.
 
Omnis
I hope the capacitive touchpad is configurable as a button. Assign it as the accelerator for wall-riding oval endurance races. GT3 would've been so much easier if I could have just left a sausage weenie on my controller.
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Quick question - does anyone know whether Infamous Second Son is a launch title? Actually, is there a full list of launch titles somewhere?
 
Shuhei Yoshida said during the livestream that SS isn't gonna be a launch title but it'll be early 2014.
 
Strittan
Hmm, the cheapest we can pre-order the PS4 for in Sweden is 428 SEK, which is equivalent to €494, £421 and $655! Is this fair? It means Sony will earn more if I buy it than if an American does, doesn't it?
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The answer is somewhere between "slightly" and "no, actually".

Exchange rates, distribution/shipping from point of manufacture, taxes (big one, particularly between the USA and Scandinavia) and marketing costs will all add up to make selling it in one territory significantly more expensive than selling it in another. And Sony may not even be making money on the console - which is fairly typical.

Sweden has a sales tax of 25%. Some US states have a sales tax of 0%. So a $400 console in any 0% sales tax US state is immediately a $500 console in Sweden in order for Sony to make the same margins - and the $100 difference goes straight to your exchequer. You can probably add an import duty onto that and then remember that Sony pays 50% of employee salaries to Sweden's treasury, before any corporation tax is levied. The difference in taxation alone makes that $400 product cost over $600...
 
Samus
PS4
Dimensions Approx. 275×53×305 mm (width × height × length)


PS3 Slim
Dimensions Approx 290(w) x 65(h) x 290(l) mm

That really is amazing, this thing is smaller than the PS3 Slim except in length, slightly.
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I was expecting PS4 to be slightly smaller than the original slim. It should take more power on full load though than original PS3 slim. It should be easy to cool though, it has only the main power consuming APU to cool.
 
Saidur_Ali
I was expecting PS4 to be slightly smaller than the original slim. It should take more power on full load though than original PS3 slim. It should be easy to cool though, it has only the main power consuming APU to cool.
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This doesn't make it easier.
 
dr_slump
This doesn't make it easier.
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It should do, the PS4 APU shouldn't take too much power on full load. Cooling requirement would be similar to a high end PC CPU or mid-range PC GPU. It does not need to be huge to cool down these chips. Cooling design should be easier to approach having only one main chip to cool instead of having two. Less costs especially in future with die shrinks.
 
Saidur_Ali
It should do, the PS4 APU shouldn't take too much power on full load. Cooling requirement would be similar to a high end PC CPU or mid-range PC GPU. It does not need to be huge to cool down these chips. Cooling design should be easier to approach having only one main chip to cool instead of having two. Less costs especially in future with die shrinks.
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Don't forget it also has to cool it's power supply. (If it's internal, which it seems it is. Or actually, it might not if it doesn't draw too much power)
 
Strittan
Hmm, the cheapest we can pre-order the PS4 for in Sweden is 428 SEK, which is equivalent to €494, £421 and $655! Is this fair? It means Sony will earn more if I buy it than if an American does, doesn't it?

Yes, I know it has to do with us having a stronger currency, but still. :p

EDIT: Wait a minute. The price for the Xbox One is the same! Something is wrong here...
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~4300 SEK isn't all that bad for us, although Spelbutiken.se did list the PS4 around ~3700 SEK yesterday (:odd:). I personally also wouldn't worry about the XBONE and its pricing, which seems to cost just a tad more thus far. The PS4 is still cheaper, better, and miles more consumer-friendly than its competitor.
 
Infamous: Second Son looks amazing !, and killzone looks much improved too, not too shabby Sony !. I do wish they had revealed a few more AAA exclusives though, I hate to say it but Microsoft beat Sony in terms of exclusive games this E3.

Also, hearing a lot of good word about the controller, a lot of people saying it is really good, even IGN's Daemon Hatfield thought it was much improved over the DS3.
 
Eks
Don't forget it also has to cool it's power supply. (If it's internal, which it seems it is. Or actually, it might not if it doesn't draw too much power)
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The PSU shouldn't need to that much bigger than original slim. Cooling wise you can see with the vents, they did what was necessary.
 
Just made it to my 65th birthday yesterday! Love playing games with friends and family, keep the good times rolling!
 
DJW_GT
Agreed, they made a great move there.

IMO they should have taken it even further by doing a base model with a 160Gb hard drive, and selling that for around £329 or something, undercutting the XB1 by £100.

Having the 500Gb is great, but surely there's a lot of people who could settle for less? The PS4 hard drive is user upgradable so it shouldn't cause any problems.

Not that it bothers me, £349 is already a great price.
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Rainbow Dash
I wouldn't mine a cheap model that has a bare minimal HDD like what MS did with the 4GB Xbox 360. Buy that, throw out the small HDD & install my own.
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I agree, it would have been nice if they are given us a really small HDD, ditched the included headset and the HDMI cable and then maybe with the savings bundled the PS Eye instead. Or maybe had a choice of two configurations, more HDD or the camera.

It's nice that camera is not a requirement but it would still be nice to have if it if end's up being used in creative ways as Kinect.

Samus
PS4
Dimensions Approx. 275×53×305 mm (width × height × length)

PS3 Slim
Dimensions Approx 290(w) x 65(h) x 290(l) mm

That really is amazing, this thing is smaller than the PS3 Slim except in length, slightly.
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DJW_GT
Also the playstation 4 only weighs 2.8 kg, whereas the original PS3 weighed about 7kg!

And like Samus said, slimmer than the PS3 Slim! Not bad!
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I'm also amazed at how damn small it is, usually next gen consoles start like fridges! I suppose it goes to show how far unification of chip-sets and optimisation has become. How this carries the same power as the chubby XBone is really confusing. I don't like the uber cheap looking textured black plastic though.
 
At last?! No more Online Passes? This is seems almost too good to be true.
Gamasutra was able to speak to Scott Rohde, software product development head for Sony Worldwide Studios America to gain further clarity on the matter:

We've already come right out and said we're not going to allow online pass. And the word "allow" is key there. Specifically with online, with PS+ requiring a charge to play online, we would not want any publisher [to charge.]

In general, we're all businesses. Sony or Microsoft is never going to be able to tell EA or Activision exactly what they can do. What we like to say at PlayStation is that we set the precedent. The way we are approaching this is that we want this to be extremely consumer-friendly, extremely retailer-friendly, and extremely publisher-friendly. My personal opinion is that it's hard for me to believe that any major publisher is going to put an extra set of used DRM onto game titles because that wouldn't put them in a good spot, right?
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http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...on_Sonys_DRM_policies_No_more_online_pass.php
 

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