Portable Showdown!: PSP vs DS

[dropzone]

PSP:

+ Acts as a portable media device as well as a gaming machine. Looks better. Games look better generally. Wifi.
- Is fragile. I spent more time cleaning it than playing it. Wifi browsing is overrated. Game selection is just what you get on the PS2, but more expensive and not as good looking. Not as fun as the DS. Just like to reiterate, the games are rediculously expensive considering brand new PC games are coming in around a 1/4 to a 1/3 cheaper.

DS:

+ Innovative - the touch screen gaming is good. It's Fun. Build like a toy brick. Online gaming is apparent very fun, especially Mario Kart.
- Some games look really rubbish. A lot games are just N64 games, but more expensive. Worse game selection than the PSP. Build like a toy brick.

I myself own a DS, but I'll try not to make my statements biased. The PSP can go online with Wifi but I think without a keyboard to make the typing easier I doubt I'd go web browsing on it if I had one. I have MC3 Dub Edition on PS2 and can't stand being forced to use the controller to type up stuff(I don't have a compatible keyboard). The PSP is a media player, so, the DS can do that too. You just have to buy an app that plugs into the GBA port on the DS and get a memory stick which I think will be much cheaper than the one needed for a PSP. I know I know, you might say it's gonna look horrible, remember the DS wasn't even made for Mp3 or video playing. Just the fact that someone did make it possible makes it a plus in my book for the DS. I just don't know of how many could watch a video for too long on a DS screen. You mention that the DS games are more expensive than N64 games??? Then you are getting ganked at the register, and need to check wherever/whoever your sources are, unless your talking of import games(which is a whole 'nother story, and yes the DS is region free). They are less than $40 brand new, I don't know of one that has surpassed the $50 mark of a new N64 game back then. When I think of portable gaming I never thought of load times, until I heard of the PSP being disc based. I don't want to wait for a game to load while I'm out for a trip to the store or wherever with friends and when I arrive to where I'm at the level or race is just starting(I'm exaggerating some), it's that load times should be a no-no for portable gaming, making the DS perfect. When I look at the PSP game selection it bored me, just downgraded ports is all that comes to mind, but with the DS I see a lot more original games and interaction with the touch screen adding to gameplay(for some games).

But in the end I can't decide for someone what to buy but money seems to factor in for people too. For the money spent on a PSP you can get a DS with Mario Kart($150) and still pick up some more games. In regards to scratching the screens on the DS with the stylus, that means you need to be more careful with your system, or get a PSP , meaning the DS may not be for you j/k . In regards to the kid rep of Nintendo, I'll just say ya'll don't know what made any of the other systems possible, sure Atari was the start(from what I recall, only being a few years old), but Nintendo made it mainstream for gaming(which I grew up with). Nintendo knows the handheld market well, they started it, so they will not fall off, certainly not to Sony. I'm sure you have read at IGN of the DS sold out in it's home market of Japan recently, I don't think I should have to add any more.

 

[tha_con]

The DS is not more powerful than Nintendo64. Mario 64 for DS does have more polygons but M64 was a launch title that barely cracked the hardware. Mario 64 DS lacks texture filtering, anti-aliasing and all the other graphical effects. Remove the graphic enhancement and lower the resolution its not hard to reproduce an old game on an old engine with new tricks.



You hate ports but you enjoy them.... what are the odds the 360 titles you own are ports and sequels 60" DLP and you want a new Sony HDTV?... Give me your old one and I'll never disagree with you again:tup: .

okay, I'm going to have to explain this, but yes, the DS is more powerful than the 64.

First of all it is capable of displaying poly's on two screens.

Second, it displays more poly's, and at a higher frame rate.

Third, there are games that have AA, it does not lack it, it is more or less that some games simply to not support it.

Metriod Prime Hunters is proof that the DS is more capable than the 64, as it outshines GoldenEye, Turok, and any other FPS on the 64 (visually).

And yes, I have a 60" DLP, but it's quite old (aoubt 3 years or so) and only supports up to 1080i, and that's only on one component input, and it does nothing other than 1080i.

The Sony Wega SXRD is for two things. HDMI, wonderful contrast, and amazing color. As for the 60", as much as I'd love to give it to you (LOL), it's going in the bed room hahaha.

 

[donbenni]

Omnis & dropzone: That comment i posted was completely PSP biased, although i had played a DS before hand i didn't actually know all that much about it. However now that i own a DS i guess i can update my view.

I'm enjoying the DS more than i ever did the PSP.

I still don't like the way it looks, but like the fact that i can stick it in my pocket without worrying about the screen(s) getting damaged.

The games i've played are 100% more enjoyable, but i stand by the opinion that game selection for either console is poor at the moment. However i agree that PSP games appear to be downgraded ports of PS2 games, but a lot of DS games are ports of Gamecube and N64 games so it's pretty fair.

DS games are actually roughly the same price as PSP games, perhaps slightly cheaper. This is still expensive expecially considering the point above. And yes they are cheaper than N64 games, by which i mean currently - An N64 game costs between £0.5 and £10 here. Originally, Goldeneye sold for £60-£70 here.

 

[Revolution.]

That's the mistake i made with the PSP, thinking that it would be worth getting as all the games look great, but then you get one and realise that there really aren't many you want to play. You've named 2. Worth spending £240 for a PSP and 2 games(?)

Worth spending? Nah, I wouldn't buy one, its too damn expensive for something like that. I'd rather put the money towards a PS3. When I said that I'd prefer a PSP over the DS, I meant that hypothetically if I was given one or the other for free, I would choose PSP. Hope that makes sense.
And about the games, consider that the DS has been out for almost a year now (I think, I'm not quite sure) and the PSP has just come out a few months ago, so there are plenty more games still to come.

 

[tha_con]

Worth spending? Nah, I wouldn't buy one, its too damn expensive for something like that. I'd rather put the money towards a PS3. When I said that I'd prefer a PSP over the DS, I meant that hypothetically if I was given one or the other for free, I would choose PSP. Hope that makes sense.
And about the games, consider that the DS has been out for almost a year now (I think, I'm not quite sure) and the PSP has just come out a few months ago, so there are plenty more games still to come.

The time difference of both consoles having been out has little to do with game selectoion. It's a factor of the DS being easy to develop for, and innovative. Developers see that the DS has a large user base, and that they can be creative, they are drawn to it. Not to mention the wonderful support of Nintendo Wi-Fi.


Labounti - Just noticed you commented about my ports comment. To put it in context, I hate ports on the PSP, it's rediculous, because I have them at my house, where I enjoy them most. I do not wish to play the same game I already own, on the go. I want a new experience elsewhere. The PSP has a lot of the same, which I already own, I'm not going to spend all of that money, just to play it on the go, when I can get something more out of the DS.

 

[LaBounti]

And way cheaper to develop for, they cash in on the games big time. PSP games can be 5-10 times more expensive to make and produce.

 

[discopotato]

lololol, i would have to say that both portables are good, DS having the edge when you have games, and the PSP having the edge when you don't.

also, tha_con, i would agree you love a good debate lololol

 

[Revolution.]

You're probably right there.

 

[donbenni]

Yes lololol

 

[tha_con]

I'm a debate-a-holic. I could have absolutely no interest in a subject, but if it seems like a good debate, I'll go research and read, just for the sake of a debate. It's not that I'm trying to annoy anyone, lol, I just enjoy exchanging points and proving them, or being proven wrong, either way

 

[FaLLeNAn9eL]

New Flash: This just in. The Nintendo DS pleads no contest in the case of Sony PSP vs Nintendo DS

 

[tha_con]

New Flash: This just in. The Nintendo DS pleads no contest in the case of Sony PSP vs Nintendo DS

News Flash This just in. The Sony PSP declares itself the worlds greatest paper weight. That's right laides and gentleman, the PortStation Portable is now classified as the worlds GREATEST paper weight. +1 for the PSP.

 

[donbenni]

New Flash: This just in. The Nintendo DS pleads no contest in the case of Sony PSP vs Nintendo DS

You win.

I mean how can anyone compete with that well-founded argument?

 

[DuckRacer]

NEWS FLASH

I returned my PSP to Best Buy, and got a DS with 3 games. And it's the best decision I've made in a long time. ACWW is awesome, ditto with MKDS, and Nintendogs is great too. My PSP was essentially my USB flash drive, and I never play games on it. I can't get off the DS.

Sounds cheesy, but it couldn't be any more true.

 

[LaBounti]

PSP will out last every attempt at handelds to join the market. Thats all that matters. Sony's doing its own thing, not competeing with Nintendo. If they were, they would have made a cheaper profitable device no one would buy.

 

[tha_con]

PSP will out last every attempt at handelds to join the market. Thats all that matters. Sony's doing its own thing, not competeing with Nintendo. If they were, they would have made a cheaper profitable device no one would buy.

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

Considering that Nintendo Handhelds are the KINGS of backwards compatibility, I find that statement extremely amusing.

I bet the PSP's lifespan is no more than 4 years tops. Then Sony will give you another $300+ "toy" that you will rarely use.

Duck - Great choice. Good to see you saw the light Some are too scared and suffer from tunnel vision. They think the DS has kiddie games, only for the fact that they play nothing but simple attempts at "mature" games. Fun factor > everything.

 

[animateria]

I owned a DS starting at September 2005... Advance Wars was the reason...

I waited to compare the games that were out for both systems... The DS was way more attractive gamewise... The PSP just had nothing to offer but clones of its big brother the PS2... Which I bought on the PS2 (WWE, SSX) Not much unique and exclusive games for it at all... Sure they got GTA:LCS but it wasn't that great to play GTA3 with motorcycles... (My cousin has a PSP and had the game)
DS had exclusive that were damn well awesome!! (Castlevania in 2D is better than 3D, Mario Kart, Adv. Wars)
My DS is getting much love/abuse from me while his PSP is getting mighty dusty...

Another point... PSP games are way over priced!! Same amount as a PS2 game? Laugh out Loud! My cousin couldn't get Lumines cause it was 39.99... Which is a hard price to pay for a puzzle game...

Anyways both still have much potential and hopefully the PSP will get some games that are worthy enough... (Both systems still lack proper RPGs for instance!)

Edit... Wheres a DS forum?

 

[LaBounti]

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

I bet the PSP's lifespan is no more than 4 years tops. Then Sony will give you another $300+ "toy" that you will rarely use.

4 years would be longer than any other attempt at joining nintendo in the market. I did not say out last nintendo just the others who tried to join the market. But you have your opinions, more personal than general, but i wont knock what you think.

 

[DuckRacer]

PSP will out last every attempt at handelds to join the market. Thats all that matters. Sony's doing its own thing, not competeing with Nintendo. If they were, they would have made a cheaper profitable device no one would buy.

O RLY?

(warning, long post)

Every PSP commercial I see focuses on gaming. Not music, not movies, not photos, games.

If I wanted to listen to music, I'd get a 30GB iPod, that can hold and play my photos, videos, and music. With a PSP, you can hold 4 Top Gear episodes, providing that you have a 2 GB mem stick with it, and they're 500MB each. With the iPod? It can hold 61.

If I wanted to hold all the stuff I wanted on a PSP, I'd need a 2 GB stick. 250 (for the psp) + 150 (mem stick) = 400. I can get an iPod and a DS for $430. Even if you get the 1 GB stick, and save $75, you'd pay an extra $100 for 30x more music/video/photo space and a lot better gaming.

And lets talk about games. The maximum price for DS games is $40. The psp's is $50. That equates to "buy 4, get 1 free" for DS games. And what about load times? On Mario Kart DS, it takes less than 20 seconds from starting up the system to getting into a race. In SWBattleFront II, it takes minutes from starting up the system to getting into a battle.

And what about long term playing? I can play for several hours a day for several days on my DS before I need to charge it. I play for several hours on my psp, and then I have to recharge it, on the same day.

And toughness? Portables should be able to be fine outside. If I want to put the DS in my pocket, I can, easily. If I put my psp in my pocket, I'd barely fit it in, and the screen may be scratched. What if I drop it? Something on the PSP gets broke, while the DS gets a few scratches on the outer paint.

If I'm riding on a car/bus for 3 hours, I don't want to be playing my 60 sec Lumines over and over and over and over and over again. When I play Animal Crossing, 2 hours easily pass and I don't notice it. And it never gets repetitive.


Verdict? PSP aims to do everything, but the job it does with everything is just ok. DS does one thing, true, but it does it with excellency.

Nintendo DS > Sony PSP

 

[LaBounti]

Thats great Duck. Again more personal opinions. No general ones. Eveything you listed does not concern me. I have a 1.5 and use it for all its worth.

All my opinions are general ones and you wont find one post about me dissin the DS.

Lastly i dont know what you do but i dont play my psp at home almost never. Its a portable device, thats what i use it for.

You both sound more anti-psp rather than pro-DS. I just post here to defend the psp if you havent already notices.

 

[FaLLeNAn9eL]

You win.

I mean how can anyone compete with that well-founded argument?

lol i was only kidding if u want a well-founded argument, compare the features , dont look at the games, DS has better games

 

[KarlG]

I say PSP, thats probably because it's the only one i own. i also think that the DS and Maybe all Nintendo are more for 1-10Yr olds and are abit babyish. But thats just my opinion.

 

[h0ss]

Nintendo just makes FUN games. Games that anyone can enjoy.

C.S. Lewis said: "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."

I'd be interested to hear exactly what makes, say, Lost in Blue childish. Or Castlevania. Or Resident Evil. Or Trauma Center. All are DS titles, and Trauma Center could *only* be made for the DS.

 

[tha_con]

Nintendo just makes FUN games. Games that anyone can enjoy.

C.S. Lewis said: "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."

I'd be interested to hear exactly what makes, say, Lost in Blue childish. Or Castlevania. Or Resident Evil. Or Trauma Center. All are DS titles, and Trauma Center could *only* be made for the DS.

Well said. I think it's more of the "childish" 'behavior of other gamers who are afriad of what their friends might think if they see them playing a Nintendo DS...

Thankfully, I'm comfortable in my skin and I can play anything I want and have a good time, isntead of being so self concious

 

[tha_con]

lol i was only kidding if u want a well-founded argument, compare the features , dont look at the games, DS has better games

Because that's what handheld gaming is all about...everything but games 💡

I say PSP, thats probably because it's the only one i own. i also think that the DS and Maybe all Nintendo are more for 1-10Yr olds and are abit babyish. But thats just my opinion

Oh, you mean like these PSP titles? Because by your definitions and I'm assuming judgement of "kiddie games" these should all be included.

Frogger
Ape Escape
Tokobot
Me and My Katamari
Death Jr.
Harry Potter
Hot Shots Golf
Sponge Bob
NeoPets PetPet Battle
Bust-a-move
Puyo Pop Fever
Bomberman
Snoopy V Red Baron
The Incredibles


I'm sure there are a lot of other titels I have not mentioned...but these are just the ones that immediately come to mind as "childish" to you. So, with that said, what makes any of these "less childish" because they are on the PSP?

DS Has a lot of games that aren't "childish" but I guess insecurity will follow you where ever you go huh?

 

[LaBounti]

PSP isnt evem marketed twards under 13 year olds But that Nintendogs comercial clearly shows you if you play this game you can get 13 year old girls to like you.


I dont think DS games are kiddy games, They are just cutesy games like most Japanese games are.

 

[tha_con]

Tell that to Bleach DS, which I think, hands down, is the best fighter to ever grace a handheld.

But, I'm not going to argue anyone's opinions, but I will say that to me, it doesn't matter if a game is "cutesy" or anything, if it's fun then that's all that matters.

I mean, weren't you the one telling me how great Katamari was? That's extremely cutesy if I've ever seen it. (And I love that game btw, I own all three versions).

 

[Pebb]

Just a bit of news for us PSP owners.

Source: CVG

2006 LAUNCH FOR PSP GPS AND EMAIL?

Reports point to a 2006 launch for Sony's PSP GPS add-on and Sony Mail, courtesy of an impending firmware update

Following the announcement of Everyone's Map for PSP last week, we were all left scratching our heads and pondering the mysterious silence that has surrounded the much-discussed handheld GPS add-on that Sony showed off during E3 2004.

Now though, it seems that the company could be set to reveal the device to the world later this year. In a scan from PSM that's been doing the 'net rounds, the US magazine claims that "sources familiar with Sony's US product management" have revealed that the GPS add-on is set for a 2006 launch. The device will apparently plug into the USB 2.0 port on top of the PSP, shipping with a special UMD containing navigation software and street data. Further word is that the company plans on releasing additional UMD updates, at further cost, to follow up.

Alongside PSP GPS, PSM also reveals that Sony Mail is destined for the handheld in an upcoming firmware upgrade. Apparently, the console does away with all that POP3/SMTP malarky to avoid potentially confusing server set-up for users of a less technological bent. Instead, each PSP will use its own unique ID number, recognized by the handheld's built-in email programme.

 

[LaBounti]

I mean, weren't you the one telling me how great Katamari was? That's extremely cutesy if I've ever seen it. (And I love that game btw, I own all three versions).

Indeed, And guess what. I didnt give the game the time of day until it was forced fed to me by way of G4 hosts saying how addictive it was and how great is. I did not buy it for me but for my GF. And i didnt have to buy a whole new system to play it.

Also I never said i didn't like em so what would your point be.

So i can see you playing princess peach then if its fun

 

[tha_con]

Indeed, And guess what. I didnt give the game the time of day until it was forced fed to me by way of G4 hosts saying how addictive it was and how great is. I did not buy it for me but for my GF. And i didnt have to buy a whole new system to play it.

Also I never said i didn't like em so what would your point be.

So i can see you playing princess peach then if its fun

If it's fun, most definately. I'm not so insecure about things like that, I've got a beautiful woman, and I'm going to college, playing games, any game, is icing on the cake.

And really, if you can justify the purchase of a $300 portable game system, it's $50 games, or it's $20-$25 movies, I hardly see the problem in saving up for a great system like the DS...especailly when the online functions so much smoother on DS.