Portable Showdown!: PSP vs DS

[LaBounti]

tha_con. I got psp to replace my GBA. I only need one handheld and as far as games I didnt buy my psp for games. I wouldnt have to save for the DS as i make enogh to buy about 3 a week plus gas money left over . You may not know my gaming regimen but it does not include playing evey game possible, the last game i beat was Aria of Sorrow.

I look at the DS the same i see Xbox 360, its just not something i need but i wont dog either system.

 

[tha_con]

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tha_con. I got psp to replace my GBA. I only need one handheld and as far as games I didnt buy my psp for games. I wouldnt have to save for the DS as i make enogh to buy about 3 a week plus gas money left over . You may not know my gaming regimen but it does not include playing evey game possible, the last game i beat was Aria of Sorrow.

I look at the DS the same i see Xbox 360, its just not something i need but i wont dog either system.

I really think you'd enjoy it though....

 

[bagfatnick]

ermm, i noe some1 wrote some where b4 that the DS touch screen can scratch easily. But through my opinion, after owning 2 DSs, even if u stab the stylus down and dragg it around the touch screen, the screen just wont get scratched. even your fingernails cant strach it IMO. thx sry if i've brought up trooubles..

 

[DuckRacer]

ermm, i noe some1 wrote some where b4 that the DS touch screen can scratch easily. But through my opinion, after owning 2 DSs, even if u stab the stylus down and dragg it around the touch screen, the screen just wont get scratched. even your fingernails cant strach it IMO. thx sry if i've brought up trooubles..

It DOES get scratched, but the scratches are so faint you have to hold the DS to the sun at a certain angle.

 

[tha_con]

Just thought I'd poke fun here, but since "PSP" isn't host to any "kiddie" games, I find it "amusing" how they are going to "emulate" a certain "title" for the "PSP".

It's called "The Dog: The good life". Basically you play dress up with your dogs and such...cute.

 

[LaBounti]

Its a japanese only game as of now and japanese gamers eat that stuff up. also its not made be Sony. It sounds just as cheesy as most japanese based games. The concept behind Katamari sounds cheesy.

I bet this new dog game will suck as everyone will only be comparing it and it lacks too many things right off the bat.

 

[tha_con]

I'd be willing to wager it will come to the US...call me crazy.

And uhh...yea this will lack a lot of things, but it won't stop it from coming to the US...but it just goes to show you how much MORE you can do with a touch screen.

You can never emulate a great gaming experience with out the great gaming hardware

+1 for the DS.

 

[tha_con]

So turns out the NDS is also getting a web browswer, being developed by Opera, which means it will probably be loads better than the PSP browswer.

Touch Screen Keyboard > navigating on PSP.

+2 for the DS.

 

[gt_masta]

I agree that navigating the web on the PSP is hard.

The touch screen should do a way better job, for browsing the web.

 

[Master_Yoda]

I say GBA it's got pokemon!

 

[animateria]

I say GBA it's got pokemon!

Well you can play that on the DS lol.... The next ones are gonna be on DS...

Or was that a joke? I'm not good with jokes...

 

[gt_masta]

That wasn't a joke. At best I could say an attempt at a joke. Jokes are supposed to be funny.

It was just a pointless comment, brought to you by Master_Yoda.

 

[HondaRacer]

Pokemon is easily playable on the PSP. All you need is a Gameboy emulator and the Pokemon ROM of your choice.

And did someone in this thread actually say the DS was a better piece of hardware? I understand the games argument (sort of) but I don't know ANYONE who can look at the specs and tell me with a straight face that the DS is better hardware.

+1 PSP (for the MASSIVE homebrew capabilities, mainly)

 

[DuckRacer]

Pokemon is easily playable on the PSP. All you need is a Gameboy emulator and the Pokemon ROM of your choice.

And did someone in this thread actually say the DS was a better piece of hardware? I understand the games argument (sort of) but I don't know ANYONE who can look at the specs and tell me with a straight face that the DS is better hardware.

+1 PSP (for the MASSIVE homebrew capabilities, mainly)

Yep, until you have to upgrade to the 2.6 firmware, and no homebrew for you. And you have to have enough memory to do it anyway. And I don;t like the feeling of my PSP breaking down. And it's illegal. I know I won't have the cops chasing me down, but come on. Do what's right.

-1 for PSP.

 

[HondaRacer]

Yep, until you have to upgrade to the 2.6 firmware, and no homebrew for you. And you have to have enough memory to do it anyway. And I don;t like the feeling of my PSP breaking down. And it's illegal. I know I won't have the cops chasing me down, but come on. Do what's right.

-1 for PSP.

I'm not going to address the legality issues of downloading ROM images, but it's no different than using LimeWire to download mp3 files. However, if you own a hard copy of the game, the line is blurred, so it's up to the user to decide.

To address the issue of 2.6 firmware, I am a proud 2.6 user, especially because I can run homebrew. Anybody who owns GTA for PSP can run most homebrew on 2.01-2.6 firmware systems. All that is needed is Fanjita's eLoader Brown Ale. You can get it from www.pspupdates.com

+1 PSP

 

[DuckRacer]

I'm not going to address the legality issues of downloading ROM images, but it's no different than using LimeWire to download mp3 files. However, if you own a hard copy of the game, the line is blurred, so it's up to the user to decide.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

If you already have, in this case, Pokemon, we'd play it on the Gameboy, and save much more memory on the PSP, for, say, the CDs you want on your PSP.

To address the issue of 2.6 firmware, I am a proud 2.6 user, especially because I can run homebrew. Anybody who owns GTA for PSP can run most homebrew on 2.01-2.6 firmware systems. All that is needed is Fanjita's eLoader Brown Ale. You can get it from www.pspupdates.com

+1 PSP

What if you don't have GTA? I sure wouldn't feel like spend $10 to rent the game just for some homebrew. And then the PSP will require you to update to, say, 3.00 (just a random number), so you can play future games. And then when GT Mobile, or some other must-have game comes out, it'll require that update, and then bam, homebrew becomes obsolete.

And there's a reason Sony is against Homebrew. It's mainly illegal. Sure, you can play chess (that has no legal issues), but you'd want to play some of the better games, like Mario. And that violates copyright. And that's illegal.

-1 for PSP.

 

[HondaRacer]

Why would you want to bring along two handhelds when you can play all your old and new games on the nicest hardware available? There is no way I would choose to play a game on the GameBoy when I could play the same one on my PSP.

Although the most popular homebrew tends to be emulators of old systems, there are many well made programs that are completely "homebrewed."

I really don't want to go off topic here, but can you honestly tell me that you haven't violated a few copyrights here and there during your stay on the internet? I'm not saying it's right, but I'd be VERY suprised if there is anybody who has not violated copyright law.

 

[gt_masta]

Emulators (Snes, especially) are slow on the PSP. You need a very high frameskip rate if you want it to stay synchronized with the music.

But with such high frameskip, it becomes unplayable.

 

[HondaRacer]

It depends on the emulator. GameBoy Color games run flawlessly on the PSP. Most homebrew programs include the feature to clock the PSP's CPU at 333mhz instead of the software capped 222mhz that Sony has implemented. This gives much better performance when running emulators.

SNES games do tax the PSP. I have to admit that playing F-Zero is tough, because i have to set the frameskip to 3 or 4 just to make the game run at a reasonable pace. However emulation on PSP continues to improve, so eventually we will see an improvement.

 

[LaBounti]

playing emus at home is common but playing them anywhere is a nice feature. I'm leaning on upgrading. As I can play these same games on my pc.

GT_masta not all games are slow, just a few run really slow, but Mega Man X1-3 all run fast. NES and Turbo Graphics-16 run flawless.

Duck has a point. I would not buy GTA just to run homebrew, once I upgrade thats that. Nintendo will crack down on all snes and nes roms once they start charging people to play these short not so fun classic games. a few rom sites ahve alread stopped hosting snes and nes roms.

I am on area 4 in Blaster Master ,was hoping to beat it since i never did when i was younger and then move on ans update. I still remember playing the same day of the first season of voyager.

updateing so i can get Street Fighter alpha 3 and Me and My Katamari. And whatever else good thats coming out.

 

[DuckRacer]

Why would you want to bring along two handhelds when you can play all your old and new games on the nicest hardware available? There is no way I would choose to play a game on the GameBoy when I could play the same one on my PSP.

Just a question, how much memory do homebrew games need?

I really don't want to go off topic here, but can you honestly tell me that you haven't violated a few copyrights here and there during your stay on the internet? I'm not saying it's right, but I'd be VERY suprised if there is anybody who has not violated copyright law.

Two. Wrongs. Don't. Make. A. Right. It's still illegal. It doesn't matter if you've done it before, that doesn't give you a free pass.

And actually, believe it or not, I haven't violated copyright law before.

Nintendo games played on the PSP as homebrew is illegal.

 

[LaBounti]

In 2045 We will be playing historic Xbox 360 titles on our Sony NintendoStation handheld and our emulatores will have emulators. Just my prediction

 

[HondaRacer]

It doesn't matter if you've done it before, that doesn't give you a free pass.

I never said it granted me a free pass. My point is that copyright law is largely ignored on the internet. That in no way makes breaking the law right. It's still illegal. However I seriously doubt the feds will crack down on someone playing Mario on their PSP. They've got bigger issues than that.

And actually, believe it or not, I haven't violated copyright law before.

You've NEVER downloaded an mp3 file, or even taped movie off of TV to watch again?

EDIT: You can easily fit several emulators, along with a handful of games for each of them on the supplied 32mb memory stick that comes with the PSP. Remember that SNES, Genesis, and GameBoy games are all cartridge based and rarely larger than 1 mb.

 

[DuckRacer]

I never said it granted me a free pass. My point is that copyright law is largely ignored on the internet. That in no way makes breaking the law right. It's still illegal. However I seriously doubt the feds will crack down on someone playing Mario on their PSP. They've got bigger issues than that.

I know that the cops won't chase me down, it's just that it's illegal. It's a moral issue.

You've NEVER downloaded an mp3 file, or even taped movie off of TV to watch again?

Nope, never have downloaded an MP3, but I have recorded TV shows (not to rewatch them, but for future viewing) on my DVR (aka TiVo). I doubt that's illegal though.

EDIT: You can easily fit several emulators, along with a handful of games for each of them on the supplied 32mb memory stick that comes with the PSP. Remember that SNES, Genesis, and GameBoy games are all cartridge based and rarely larger than 1 mb.

Thanks.

 

[HondaRacer]

It's a moral issue.

I respect that. 👍 It's been good debating you.

All other members may now return to their DS vs. PSP discussion. Thank you for your time.

 

[DuckRacer]

I respect that. 👍 It's been good debating you.

All other members may now return to their DS vs. PSP discussion. Thank you for your time.

Mmmkay. good debating.

 

[keeno_uk]

Well I can say I got both of them myself I have a psp while my bro has his ds I think both of them are good in there own merit ds can do its games very well I'm not a big nintendo fan I bought a gamecube purely for resi 4 then found out the shipped it to ps2 grrrr. Anyways IMO I'm not too interested in ds games they just don't suit me they maybe good or very good to the eyes of zealots but they don't apeal to me. This chat about ports is winding me up how many times are nintendo gonna bring out mario kart, come on that game is older than my bro for god sake its been on every single nintendo system (apart from the nes and the first gameboy) so don't start about ports. but as it stands the psp is good at being an all round multimedia device and the ds is good at games just like the ps2 and gamecube probably just like the ps3 and revolution (I must admit nintendo are alway at the front when it comes to trying new and possibly weird features wid there consoles)

 

[animateria]

Well if you get nick picky... PS2 ports to PSP is plain silly in my opinion... There isn't a reason to buy a game thats on the PS2 on the PSP also... And if you had both systems you would most likely buy the slightly superior PS2 version... And speaking of multimedia... There isn't much to it until you invest on a card that has more than 1 gig... Thats not that cheap either... The system already costs a bunch... But having ports of the PS2 does say much about its capabilities I guess... (New original games start looking and playing the part too)

By The Way? ZEALOTS? I friggin waited a year to evaluate the two systems and finally decided on the DS... I thought the dual screen idea was gibberish until I got it... It works well and doesn't just feel like a gimmick...

Anyways... They are both capable machines... I just hate it when people think the DS is not as good as the PSP because of its specs... or the idea of two screens for that matter.

Multimedia? I wish they make that MP3 video playing cartrige to shut some people up... (And thats for the GBA)... If they make a DS version it would be awesome...

BTW... Mariokart is well made... Thats the main reason it survived for such a long time...

 

[keeno_uk]

All I'm saying is why is everyone having a go at the psp wid its ports from the ps2 obviously people havent bothered to look at games such pursuit force, coded arms, daxter and exit these are only a few games (that I can mention right now lol) that are not ports I'm just getting tired of people calling it nothing but a mini ps2. I'm just saying that nintendo isnt free of ports nintendo's biggest franchise is mario sony doesnt have such a huge character crash bandicoot doesnt come close and now he is on every console and remember I'm not dissin the ds its good at what it does I NEVER said the touch screen is a gimmick its a rather good piece of kit I like that about the ds also I NEVER called anyone a zealot even though in some comments IMO have acts of zealousy in them. but to answer the original question I would still buy the psp despite it costing over £100 more than a ds on one thing purely on the games they play I'm not gonna call the ds games kiddy or cutesy or whatever ds people think us psp people think we call ds games its all about game selection basically meaning what games you want to play and I tell you now if gt4 portable was coming to a ds I would by one for that alone and thats my point put.

BTW well made or not mariokart is still the same concept just re-adjusted and re-evulated thought I do admit when a port is done from ps2 to psp it loses heavily on features and content i.e. need for speed most wanted

 

[animateria]

Well I would like to play the new Syphon Filter for the PSP thats for sure.. Looks good... (Cousin has a PSP... And it is pretty impressive)

I'm not saying its a mini PS2... I find it annoying that several companies focus on bringing PS2 games to the PSP... The system needed unique and exclusive games that would warrant a purchase... I picked the DS because it was guaranteed to have exclusive DS games at a Handheld price (29.99 compared to 49.99)... This was last November when PSP really was slugish with some original games ...

I find it slowly picking up however... With new releases up to the job ...

BTW the Dual Screen comment was just an add-on... I'm saying as a person who thought the two screen idea was stupid and was impressed by it...

Anyways cheers ... I would rather have both than boast a particular system... I just don't have a budjet to afford all those games (PS2 and DS games are enough to empty my pocket)