Premium Nerds?

[Gejabo]

I usually LOVE driving premiums from the interior view, but when I'm racing competitive (online, etc.) then I use the bumper view.

Me too.

 

[rap129]

I drive anything.. I'd care less because I don't use cockpit view

 

[fbccars924]

Poll added

 

[lebes14]

^i cant do open top standards. They bug me even more than a regular one because the cockpit is already 3/4's done, its like "now your bein lazy doggone it"

+1

I don't drive anything outside of cockpit view usually and the quality of standards drive me mad.

 

[jstickboy13]

I don't really mind between them. Obvoiusly the premiums look better, but the vast majority of the cars in the game are standards so you miss out on a lot if you ignore them. I love the cockpit view, but I end up mostly using the bumper cam when I'm really full on racing, and 3rd person online some so I don't bump others.

 

[diegorborges]

Very premium oriented poll

Voted

 

[Kino321-X]

I drive anything, but I prefer Premiums. The cockpit view makes the game so much more immersive. Photomode is a major incentive as well, the detail on those cars are just absolutely fantastic. Never ceases to amaze me.

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

Isn't that the idea behind premiums

 

[1241Penguin]

I tend to avoid Standard cars. Whenever possible, I drive Premiums. For instance, if I want a Skyline, then I immediately go for the one in the New Car Dealership. On the other hand, I will also drive cars that are interesting but only come in Standard form, such as the Caterham.

 

[MagicalJaguars]

I drive anything, but I prefer Premiums. The cockpit view makes the game so much more immersive. Photomode is a major incentive as well, the detail on those cars are just absolutely fantastic. Never ceases to amaze me.

I Agree

 

[ENDURANCEGUY]

I don't care what I drive, as long as it runs.
~ENDURANCEGUY

 

[interpolfan11]

I drive both, although I obviously prefer the premium cars and it's not just because they look better.

As someone stated earlier in this thread, standard physics for standard cars.

 

[Yardang]

Standard or premium doesn't really matter with me, I just drive whichever car I feel like using. Even though I hate how standard cars have been thrown into the game, I still use them most of the time. Many of my favorite cars are standards, so I just cast a blind eye for the moment and drive away.

 

[WrxScooby]

I don't really care I race in the front bumper view so I never really see the car Im in. If I'm just doing a cruise then I will usually find myself in a premium car just for the realistic view but most of my personal favorite cars are standard so I just drive them with the hood view.

 

[TheeFrogmanlego]

I drive both, although I obviously prefer the premium cars and it's not just because they look better.

As someone stated earlier in this thread, standard physics for standard cars.

Thats quite false , they run with the same physics engine , all they do is plug a set of #'s into the physics engine witch then judging by the cars set parameters will judge how it drives ETC .

 

[WrxScooby]

Thats quite false , they run with the same physics engine , all they do is plug a set of #'s into the physics engine witch then judging by the cars set parameters will judge how it drives ETC .

But with that being said are there more parameters for the premiums? Considering it they took more time with the designing of the car? Not trying to say whos wrong or right, just curious and what are your sources?

 

[interpolfan11]

Thats quite false , they run with the same physics engine , all they do is plug a set of #'s into the physics engine witch then judging by the cars set parameters will judge how it drives ETC .

My point was that there are standard cars whose real-life counterparts handle completely differently than how they do in the game.

The Yellowbird is actually driveable in real-life, the BMW 2002 should handle like a go-kart, and purpose-built track cars like the Caterham 7 should handle better than they do in the game as well. PD simply didn't spend enough time making sure each standard car drove properly.

 

[jtqmopar]

I drive the cars that I like. But only drive premium in cockpit view. Except on the 'Ring where I use roof cam like when I drive standard cars.

 

[diegorborges]

My point was that there are standard cars whose real-life counterparts handle completely differently than how they do in the game.

The Yellowbird is actually driveable in real-life, the BMW 2002 should handle like a go-kart, and purpose-built track cars like the Caterham 7 should handle better than they do in the game as well. PD simply didn't spend enough time making sure each standard car drove properly.

It's not like this. The older Porsche 911s are known for being really hard to drive. Imagine a Yellowbird. From 1987 with 400+hp it should be hard to drive. If you watch some videos and read about it you'll see that it is driveable, if you have the ability and guts for it.

The BMW 2002 is a good, but very old car right now and it shouldn't handle exactly like a go-kart. Low traction from the thin tires, etc... I think its correct too.

The standard cars run on the same parameters and physics model as the premium ones. I'm pretty sure about that.

But, 1 year and half after the game release people still need to believe on this kind of stuff. IMHO its not true. About the bad graphical quality of the standard cars, I do agree... even if I drive them without any problem. But their physics are on par with premiums. Same stuff.

 

[interpolfan11]

It's not like this. The older Porsche 911s are known for being really hard to drive. Imagine a Yellowbird. From 1987 with 400+hp it should be hard to drive. If you watch some videos and read about it you'll see that it is driveable, if you have the ability and guts for it.

The BMW 2002 is a good, but very old car right now and it shouldn't handle exactly like a go-kart. Low traction from the thin tires, etc... I think its correct too.

The standard cars run on the same parameters and physics model as the premium ones. I'm pretty sure about that.

But, 1 year and half after the game release people still need to believe on this kind of stuff. IMHO its not true. About the bad graphical quality of the standard cars, I do agree... even if I drive them without any problem. But their physics are on par with premiums. Same stuff.

Older Porsche 911s may not be easy to drive, but they're certainly not as difficult to drive as they are in GT5, either. Of course, I'm basing this off of seeing them run on my local track, as they didn't appear to be breaking off into an uncontrollable drift like I seem to do in GT5. Maybe I'm just that bad of a virtual driver...

As for the 2002, with all due respect I think you're completely wrong. My dad owns one and I drive it constantly. It's one of the most fun to drive cars one could ever drive. It's a peppy and nimble car, and this isn't reflected in GT5.

 

[Jaywalker]

There are way too many awesome standards. I simply have to drive them. Roof cam does the trick for me.

 

[lldantell]

Am I the only one that enjoys premiums more than standards. I tend to drive my premiums much more than my standards sheerly for the fact I have more ways to personalize them. Anyone else the same way.

I'm the same because the premium cars got interiors and the cars look better too

 

[Flaco13]

I am much to biased towards Manufacturers I love and dislike. And I think that is the main reason for me not to care about a car beeing premium or standard. For example I´d take a standard Chevy over a premium Ford any time. Or a standard Opel over a prem. Volkswagen.

 

[diegorborges]

Older Porsche 911s may not be easy to drive, but they're certainly not as difficult to drive as they are in GT5, either. Of course, I'm basing this off of seeing them run on my local track, as they didn't appear to be breaking off into an uncontrollable drift like I seem to do in GT5. Maybe I'm just that bad of a virtual driver...

As for the 2002, with all due respect I think you're completely wrong. My dad owns one and I drive it constantly. It's one of the most fun to drive cars one could ever drive. It's a peppy and nimble car, and this isn't reflected in GT5.

TBH, one thing that could solve the problem for both cars, its tire type. Maybe changing the tires in GT5 for a superior compound (maybe the 2002 should use sports tires?) could reflect more the realistic behavior you talk about.

I'm sure you got the right input on the car because your dad own one. But I think it's not a question of they haven't put much effort into those cars and in videogames we tend to drive more agressively and recklessly because there are no dangers like in real life. I bet that you would never want to harm yourself and damage your dad's precious BMW.

I agree with you in some points but I just not agree that physics on standard cars are not on par with premiums. Saying that the tire compound that come with the car is incorrect may be a bit more accurate. Of course, in my humble opinion.

And it's always good to hear some realistic feedback. Thanks for sharing your experience about the 2002.

 

[Pagey279]

Like others here if it drives, I will drive it. Some of my favourite cars are standards, the Nardo, a couple of the TVRs, the tank car etc.
But if there is the same model, that is both Premium and Standard, I will always drive the premium. Just because of the greater customisability, nothing to do with the cockpit view because I don't use it.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

If it is fun, I'll drive it.

 

[JackC8]

I certainly prefer the premiums, but I drive a lot of standards as well because I've got a far larger selection of them. But if there's a premium and standard around the same pp level for a race, and assuming they're both equally appealing to me (one's not a beautiful sports car and the other's a family sedan), I'll most likely take the premium.

 

[Zona]

I drive whatever cars I feel like driving. However, as of late I have mostly been driving premium models.

 

[fbccars924]

TBH, one thing that could solve the problem for both cars, its tire type. Maybe changing the tires in GT5 for a superior compound (maybe the 2002 should use sports tires?) could reflect more the realistic behavior you talk about.

I'm sure you got the right input on the car because your dad own one. But I think it's not a question of they haven't put much effort into those cars and in videogames we tend to drive more agressively and recklessly because there are no dangers like in real life. I bet that you would never want to harm yourself and damage your dad's precious BMW.

I agree with you in some points but I just not agree that physics on standard cars are not on par with premiums. Saying that the tire compound that come with the car is incorrect may be a bit more accurate. Of course, in my humble opinion.

And it's always good to hear some realistic feedback. Thanks for sharing your experience about the 2002.

there is a huge elephant in the room that you guys seem to be forgetting about. That sensation you get that tells you your gonna die if you take this turn wrong. In GT5 you don't have that sensation meaning you are more likely to come in faster and not have to worry about any thing worse than losing your lead or the guy in front of you pulling away(which if bad enough you just restart and it's all good again).

 

[DGXR]

If it is fun,I'll drive it.

That's sig material right there!
My GF is fun and I drive her every chance I get!

But seriously, this is the **exact** reason why I don't care whether a car is standard or premium. I love driving the Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car (premium) just as much as I love driving the Saleen S7 (standard). Granted the premiums look a littel better, but they are both good-looking enough that it doesn't make much difference to me.

To this day I love playing Syphon Filter and GT2 on the PSX (well I actually play them on my PS2)... the PSX graphics by today's standards are godawful, but these games are so much fun that I just don't care. (Throw a grenade with the home theater cranked up! BOOOOOOM!!!) Apologies, I get caught up in sweet gaming memories and I digress...