Project CARS General Discussion Thread

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I guess if you think about game development, this isn't too shocking. As long as bugs and features and content for one are released I don't mind there being some people working on two.
 
wowbaggerBR
So, after saying that the slowing time bug (probably) was a giant waste of time, Ian Bell get back at the forums to say that, after tons of new reports, they are now looking into it propperly.

Christ lord allmighty, what a mess, what a PR nightmare this guy is.

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Every report about this issue states very clearly that it is noticeable only with maxxed out grids.
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Problem went away for me after a hard reset of the console. I think half the problem is ppl confusing one problem with another.
 
I dont understand why people are so angry and disappointed in Pcars 2 . SMS has 140 people they are leaving 40 on Pcars1 at a cost of $400k to support . It's not like everyone one does everything thats not how it work. Some do cars ,some gui, some do bugs ,etc.,
 
diesel97
I dont understand why people are so angry and disappointed in Pcars 2 . SMS has 140 people they are leaving 40 on Pcars1 at a cost of $400k to support . It's not like everyone one does everything thats not how it work. Some do cars ,some gui, some do bugs ,etc.,
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400k pounds... per month.
 
That makes sense. If you have 40 people and you pay 10k per month (before taxes, insurance, other premium payments), it's reasonable. I'm sure I cost my employer similar amount of money, even if I only see a half of it in my pocket.
 
diesel97
I dont understand why people are so angry and disappointed in Pcars 2 . SMS has 140 people they are leaving 40 on Pcars1 at a cost of $400k to support . It's not like everyone one does everything thats not how it work. Some do cars ,some gui, some do bugs ,etc.,
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Haven't you heard? The first game must be absolutely perfect and totally complete before the second game can even be mentioned, let alone worked on. Otherwise the internetz will explode with the injustice of it all:lol:
 
People do realize that pretty much all game companies start work on the sequel title right after or even long before the current title is released right?

Look at EA with the Need For Speed and Battlefield, Codemasters with the F1 series (they talked about F1 2015 before F1 2014 was launched), Polyphony Digital with Gran Turismo, Turn 10 Studios with Forza, and many more. I really don't see why some are outraged.
 
ukfan758
People do realize that pretty much all game companies start work on the sequel title right after or even long before the current title is released right?

Look at EA with the Need For Speed and Battlefield, Codemasters with the F1 series (they talked about F1 2015 before F1 2014 was launched), Polyphony Digital with Gran Turismo, Turn 10 Studios with Forza, and many more. I really don't see why some are outraged.
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Yes, this is business as usual in the gaming industry. I don't understand the outrage at all either. Yes, pCARS still have issues, bugs and whatnot but they'll continue to support it - however, if they fail to do so, I'll be on the frontline with y'all.

I guess this is the downside of being transparent.
 
I really don't get why people are getting uptight over PCars 2 being started .... how long did it take to develop PCars 1 ? ..... do people really want to play the game for a couple of years and then sit crying in the corner because they're bored and SMS haven't even begun making PCars 2 yet ? :confused:

Sheeeeshhhh, what do some people want for a £40 video game; The makers bonded into slavery to support the game for no extra money forever ? The money I paid for PCars is less than a night out but the entertainment value is through the roof ..... it's all about perspective :sly:
 
Yellowbeard
I really don't get why people are getting uptight over PCars 2 being started .... how long did it take to develop PCars 1 ? ..... do people really want to play the game for a couple of years and then sit crying in the corner because they're bored and SMS haven't even begun making PCars 2 yet ? :confused:

Sheeeeshhhh, what do some people want for a £40 video game; The makers bonded into slavery to support the game for no extra money forever ? The money I paid for PCars is less than a night out but the entertainment value is through the roof ..... it's all about perspective :sly:
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Unfournatly yes. A good example is the best head studio that made fallout 3 and skyrim. As soon as fallout 3 was finished the majority went on to skyrim. But there was still a few that started to work on fallout 3 and fallout 4 concepts.

People just nowadays have a unjustified sense of entitlement. Be grateful for what you have!
 
Last night I was racing the vintage DTM cars around Hockenheim with accelerated weather, and a bright sunny afternoon turned to rain.... At first the rain was light and there was no noticeable loss of grip, then gradually the rain started to fall heavier. Once the track surface started to shine the skating started. And it was a blast.

During Le Mans weekend I was listening to a discussion on exactly how grip changes for slick tyres as rain sets in, and pCARS gave me exactly the experience that I would expect.


Since the latest PC patch, my T300 performs very nicely (With the current FFB I can always tell what is happening with the car, no unexpected sudden loss of control). I have had no game crashes or instability since launch, the game performs very nicely even with 30 cars off the grid in the wet. Sure, I don't do multiplayer racing, but the offline part of the game seems stable and good to me.
 
It makes me laugh how people can get so upset about something that costs £40. £40 will get you about an hours worth of karting in the real world, which is GREAT fun. £40 worth of PCARs has given me about 15 hours of GOOD fun (so far as I have not got to play it much). Well worth it in my opinion as I will be messing about with it for ages yet. Even with the bugs. Some made me laugh to be honest. When my Clio had 4 burst tyres out of the pits and I limped around the last couple of laps of Silverstone coming dead last, it didn't really piss me off. I still won the championship.


(Although I did cry when my fake twitter followers were disappointed in me)
 
BigJimmy
It makes me laugh how people can get so upset about something that costs £40. £40 will get you about an hours worth of karting in the real world, which is GREAT fun. £40 worth of PCARs has given me about 15 hours of GOOD fun (so far as I have not got to play it much). Well worth it in my opinion as I will be messing about with it for ages yet. Even with the bugs. Some made me laugh to be honest. When my Clio had 4 burst tyres out of the pits and I limped around the last couple of laps of Silverstone coming dead last, it didn't really piss me off. I still won the championship.


(Although I did cry when my fake twitter followers were disappointed in me)
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I know there have been many comments and debates on PCARS 2 being announced so soon and I think everyone is entitled to their opinion and there have been valid points on both sides of the argument.

Like everyone else, I also have an opinion, people may or may not agree with it but, hey that’s why it’s mine.

The one statement that made me a little uncomfortable is the statement about continued commitment to the current game, it really didn’t make me feel like there will be any real commitment after 2015, the statement is just a little general and vague for my liking:

"Project CARS will continue to see massive updates, features, and content throughout 2015 & beyond. Project CARS 2 will happen simultaneously,”

Personally I think they should have waited some time to fix more of the issues (And there are some BIG Issues) with the current PCARS before making an official announcement.

Of course we all knew they would be working on PCARS 2, but the official announcement and crowd funding thing is a little soon. It’s funny because I didn’t get wind of P.C.A.R.S. early enough to get in on the crowd funding part and I kept saying that if I knew sooner I would have been in. The reason I said it’s funny is that with them announcing this with so many issues in the current game was kind of a turn off for me and I am really not that excited about getting in now, who knows maybe that will change when it’s too late.

I have looked at the features that they stated for PCARS 2 and the only thing that got my interest was 200 plus cars, but when I think about it, if they include rally cars and that sort of thing I can really pass on that as I have no interest in Rally and lose track stuff.

To be perfectly honest I would have been more inclined to crowd fund to help pay for more manufacture licenses like Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche and some of the other Hyper Car Brands, I know that some PCARS Supporters hate the idea of anything that is not pure race cars, but I love Hyper Cars and have no issue saying that and don’t forget, they have the Pagani Huayra, why not just get the others, the creators obviously like them also. And when they add Rally stuff, the pure racing stuff goes out the window anyway.


Now About that 2.0 Patch.
I just want to know after looking at the long list of stuff how they didn’t think to fix the jittery/jerky replays (They really are very annoying to watch and I always enjoyed watch my replays)

Lastly, How are they able to get so much more performance out of the PC (up to 5% frame rate improvement when using Ultra settings) and XB1 (up to 17% frame rate improvement in extreme conditions) and not have any more performance improvement for the PS4??? "Just Saying”
 
IMZ14U2NV
I know there have been many comments and debates on PCARS 2 being announced so soon and I think everyone is entitled to their opinion and there have been valid points on both sides of the argument.

Like everyone else, I also have an opinion, people may or may not agree with it but, hey that’s why it’s mine.

The one statement that made me a little uncomfortable is the statement about continued commitment to the current game, it really didn’t make me feel like there will be any real commitment after 2015, the statement is just a little general and vague for my liking:

"Project CARS will continue to see massive updates, features, and content throughout 2015 & beyond. Project CARS 2 will happen simultaneously,”

Personally I think they should have waited some time to fix more of the issues (And there are some BIG Issues) with the current PCARS before making an official announcement.
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You have seen the latest patch notes right? It's pretty obvious they are working furiously to put things right with all versions of the game but really, to start casting your doubts forward into 2016 and beyond is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

I have looked at the features that they stated for PCARS 2 and the only thing that got my interest was 200 plus cars, but when I think about it, if they include rally cars and that sort of thing I can really pass on that as I have no interest in Rally and lose track stuff. To be perfectly honest I would have been more inclined to crowd fund to help pay for more manufacture licenses like Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche and some of the other Hyper Car Brands, I know that some PCARS Supporters hate the idea of anything that is not pure race cars, but I love Hyper Cars and have no issue saying that and don’t forget, they have the Pagani Huayra, why not just get the others, the creators obviously like them also. And when they add Rally stuff, the pure racing stuff goes out the window anyway.
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Pretty obvious but it should be said that the inclusion of loose track cars does not preclude the addition of even more tarmac based road and race cars. The base physics are already there for tarmac racing and all it really needs is more content in the form of tracks and cars.

Lastly, How are they able to get so much more performance out of the PC (up to 5% frame rate improvement when using Ultra settings) and XB1 (up to 17% frame rate improvement in extreme conditions) and not have any more performance improvement for the PS4??? "Just Saying”
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Unless there's a conspiracy against PS4 users I'm quite certain there are technical reasons for this and it's possible that PS4 is near fully optimized already or that it will receive more optimization in the future.
 
Also something I think people don't realise:

Some of the work on pCARS2 is transferable to pCARS1. Not only is that good in itself, but the WMD platform is back again to test these things and give feedback before they're packaged up for pCARS1 inclusion.

For example: the 2nd pCARS 2 build supports the new Oculus SDK and is being tested. The updates will then go to pCARS 1 when working properly :)
 
IMZ14U2NV
Lastly, How are they able to get so much more performance out of the PC (up to 5% frame rate improvement when using Ultra settings) and XB1 (up to 17% frame rate improvement in extreme conditions) and not have any more performance improvement for the PS4??? "Just Saying”
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Johnnypenso
Unless there's a conspiracy against PS4 users I'm quite certain there are technical reasons for this and it's possible that PS4 is near fully optimized already or that it will receive more optimization in the future.
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PS4 got a HUGE performance boost on the last patch, though. Just saying.
 
Lastly, How are they able to get so much more performance out of the PC (up to 5% frame rate improvement when using Ultra settings) and XB1 (up to 17% frame rate improvement in extreme conditions) and not have any more performance improvement for the PS4??? "Just Saying”
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Because it has a slower gpu and it is naturally to get higher percentage improvements from a system that outputs lower fps. An 4fps improvements on a slower machine results in higher percentage compared to a sys with a higher specs gfx card that also get about the same fps improvements.
 
If SMS had done 6 months of development work behind the scenes without any community assistance, how could they call the finished product "community assisted race simulator"?


Personally I rather liked seeing the contents of build 0000 and build 0001. It would have been less awesome to get access to the development only at build 180 or so :)
 
:) that's an awesome photo!

I believe build 0000 leaked onto YouTube briefly, along with the patch notes, so you might have caught a glimpse of it. Neither build looked quite like that awesome picture, though.... unfortunately!
 
Johnnypenso
You have seen the latest patch notes right? It's pretty obvious they are working furiously to put things right with all versions of the game but really, to start casting your doubts forward into 2016 and beyond is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

Pretty obvious but it should be said that the inclusion of loose track cars does not preclude the addition of even more tarmac based road and race cars. The base physics are already there for tarmac racing and all it really needs is more content in the form of tracks and cars.

Unless there's a conspiracy against PS4 users I'm quite certain there are technical reasons for this and it's possible that PS4 is near fully optimized already or that it will receive more optimization in the future.
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Johnnypenso,
Please, Please, Please do not take my post as negative, remember, it is in fact just MY opinion.
And, Yes, I did read the Patch Notes, I referenced it in my post. My question was simply, wondering why they didn’t put the replay issues at a higher priority and include them in this patch.

I have made a huge investment in hardware to play this game and I am not attempting to disparage it, but at the same time I need to be able to look at things objectively and not blindly follow.


wowbaggerBR
PS4 got a HUGE performance boost on the last patch, though. Just saying.
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wowbaggerBR,
To your point, I agree, the 1.4 or 1.04 patch did bring performance improvement to PS4, I was just wondering if there is more to get out of the PS4 since they were able to get even more performance out of the other platforms.
 
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Ryan81
So does anyone know when the next DLC is scheduled? I know Driveclub brings it out the last Tuesday of every month.
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A WMD member on the PCars forum said it is soon. But then it is July 'soon' so who knows. We won't get it before v2.00 as the cars are not in the game files and will presumably arrive with the patch.

I am really looking forward to the 3 Audis with the R18 e-tron quattro being the highlight. That car is going to cover serious mileage for me.
 
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