PS3 General Discussion

[Swift]

You guy's the pre-order situation really isn't as bad as you think....if your first on the list lol.




I'm first on the list, so I'm not worried at all.

And you wonder why nobody likes you!

 

[Jeremy Ricci]

And you wonder why nobody likes you!

I cheated to get my reserve on the 9th. But that's because I'm awesomely powerful.

 

[Mr Deap]

And you wonder why nobody likes you!

It's not true, I like JR.

 

[KENJIusa]

A Little Flashback

 

[Solid Lifters]

Flashback, oh yeah. I remember that day pretty vividly. I was just 10 months sober for the first time in my life since age 9, or so. So, yeah, that first year held some strange memories for me. That's probably why I ain't gonna camp out this year. LOL. No, not really.

Oh, looks like eBay took down that PS3 sale I posted earlier. Good, 'cause it sounded too much like a scam.

 

[KENJIusa]

Research shows massive support for the PS3
by Greg Bergen

In recent research done by Los Angeles based Interpret (a technological research company) the findings show an overwhelming consumer support for the PLAYSTATION 3. The study shows that around 8.9 million Americans are prepared to pay full price ($500-$600) for the PS3, 5.7 million who are prepared to buy the Wii at $250 and 800,000 who are willing to pay $300-$400 for the Xbox360.

The study consisted of 2,000 random interviews Interpret gave online. They then weighted it to the 2004 U.S. Census data of people in the U.S. Lastly, they backed it up by a telephone survey to make sure the online data wasn't over-represented by females, which is an issue with online surveys.

The research also predicts that by 2008 the PS3 will have an established fan base of 12 million in the U.S. The Xbox360 for over a year now has held an unanswered lead in the nex-gen war. However, with the ratios stated above, the Xbox360 might have a hard time keeping that lead when the PS3 and Wii launch this fall. The key to winning in the U.S. lies in Sony's ability to keep to marketplace supplied with ample nex-gen consoles. If they can keep their supply up, then Microsoft may be in trouble.
PS3LAND.COM

I believe this has been mentioned, but again, you can use your old PS2 component on PS3:tup: ( Can 360 use xbox component cable? )

October 11, 2006 - HDMI port, Blu-Ray drive, Cell processor -- the PS3 will ship with everything needed for high definition playback. Everything except for high definition cables, that is.

The latest issue of Famitsu contains a first report on the cables that will be included with the Japanese version of the PS3. Purchasers of either the 60 Gig or 20 Gig models will get a power cord, USB cable, ethernet cable and standard composite AV cable.

That's right! No component, HDMI or D cables are included in the box! While Sony hasn't announced the wiring that will be bundled with the US version of the system, in Japan at least, those who want high definition cables will have to make a separate purchase.

On the plus side, the PS3's AV Multi Out interface accepts the same cables that you used with your PS2, so if you already have S-Video, D or Component cables, you should be able to reuse them.

IGN

 

[Tornado]

A Little Flashback

Wow, that was back when EGM was a quality magazine. Good times. I still have that issue, I beleive. I also beleive that was back when I was laughing at morons who rushed out to buy the thing in the first place, while sitting at home playing my Dreamcast.

 

[DuckRacer]

( Can 360 use xbox component cable? )

I don't think so.

 

[Jeremy Ricci]

Of course you can't use your Xbox cables with your 360, MS would never think of putting the consumer first and using backwards compatibility. They will simply put out new consoles every 4 years in an attempt to rob your wallets and charge you too much for your accessories.

 

[Tornado]

Ahem.

Controller = 39.99
Remote = 29.99
Adapter = 9.99 - 11.99

And I'm sure there will be a Dual-Shock 2 adapter somewhere down the line. Don't get me wrong: not including the ability to use the XBox cords on the 360 is silly and the biggest travesty since the Sega Saturn connector cords being not quite close enouh to the Genny's (Will you look at that! Another Sega-MS parallel.), but Sony isn't innocent either. Besides, there is also the PS2 HDD and original PS2 remote as well in the context of the PS2 revisions.

 

[Jeremy Ricci]

Ahem.

And I'm sure there will be a Dual-Shock 2 adapter somewhere down the line. Don't get me wrong: not including the ability to use the XBox cords on the 360 is silly and the biggest travesty since the Sega Saturn connector cords being not quite close enouh to the Genny's (Will you look at that! Another Sega-MS parallel.), but Sony isn't innocent either. Besides, there is also the PS2 HDD and original PS2 remote as well in the context of the PS2 revisions.

The controller situation is to be understood, as the typical DS2 connection is not ideal for recharging a lithium ion battery.

I can say I wish it had MC ports, but at least it's only 10 bucks.

In MS's defense, however, they did switch from Nvidia to ATI, but that's still no excuse, as Sony went from their own hardware to Nvidia, but managed to retain their old connectors to save consumers money.

Edit:

BTW, look at the first year of games the PS3 offers:

Call of Duty 3
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
Tony Hawk's Project 8
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
David Jaffe's Airwave Project [untitled]
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The
Ridge Racer 7
F.E.A.R.
Resistance: Fall of Man
EA Sports Fight Night Round 3
MotorStorm
Half-Life 2
Alone in the Dark
Warhawk
John Woo Presents Stranglehold
Assassin's Creed
Fatal Inertia
Unreal Tournament 2007
Virtua Fighter 5
Gran Turismo HD
Grand Theft Auto IV
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Tekken 6....................................(bwahaha, yea right)
Soulcalibur IV
Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier
Final Fantasy XIII
Army of Two
Devil May Cry 4
Burnout 5
Guitar Hero PS3
Heavenly Sword
Ratchet and Clank PS3
Zipper Interactive PS3 Project [untitled] (likely Socom)
Gradius PS3
Battlefield: Bad Company
Def Jam 3 [Working Title]
Lair
L.A. Noire



Preatty freaking impressive if you ask me....very very impressive.

 

[DuckRacer]

Ahem.

And I'm sure there will be a Dual-Shock 2 adapter somewhere down the line. Don't get me wrong: not including the ability to use the XBox cords on the 360 is silly and the biggest travesty since the Sega Saturn connector cords being not quite close enouh to the Genny's (Will you look at that! Another Sega-MS parallel.), but Sony isn't innocent either. Besides, there is also the PS2 HDD and original PS2 remote as well in the context of the PS2 revisions.

The PS2 HDD was only needed for one game, not a huge feature for Xbox Live. And Microsoft is more guilty.

Controller = 39.99

X360 Controller ($50) + Play-and-Charge Kit ($20) (that kind of thing already comes with the PS3) = $70. And even without the kit the controller still costs $10 more. And heck, even Nintendo's controller is $60 ($60 Wiimote + $20 Nunchuck).

Remote = 29.99

Not arguing against that, it's a total POS.

Adapter = 9.99 - 11.99

It's better than $100 for the X360 HDD you need to have for the X360 "backward compatibility", and even still, it's worth the $10 to have full backward compatibility. And speaking of adapters, Nintendo will probably have some $30 Ethernet adapter for Ethernet cables if you don't have Wi-Fi.

 

[Tornado]

The PS2 HDD was only needed for one game, not a huge feature for Xbox Live. And Microsoft is more guilty.

Yes, one game bought by millions upon millions of people. It would be like requiring an adaptor to play the original SMB on the NES, then making it so the adaptor didn't fit.

X360 Controller ($50) + Play-and-Charge Kit ($20) (that kind of thing already comes with the PS3) = $70. And even without the kit the controller still costs $10 more. And heck, even Nintendo's controller is $60 ($60 Wiimote + $20 Nunchuck).

This one wasn't one of them I was referencing. Perhaps I should have bolded them.

It's better than $100 for the X360 HDD you need to have for the X360 "backward compatibility", and even still, it's worth the $10 to have full backward compatibility. And speaking of adapters, Nintendo will probably have some $30 Ethernet adapter for Ethernet cables if you don't have Wi-Fi.

It's still not fair when you take into account the fact that Sony has always been for backwards compatibility. Microsoft is rather exempt from this as Peter Moore won't shut up about how backwards compatability not being important (despite this being to the contrary for more than 20 years), and as such they kind of wrote themselve out of it by labeling it as a privelage.
Sony has never made it necessary to buy something for backwards compatability (despite it being the norm, truthfully). You can't tell me that with all of the amazing slots and expansion areas Sony couldn't have slipped both a Dual Shock slot and a Memory card slot for less than $10 combined.

 

[Jeremy Ricci]

Yes, one game bought by millions upon millions of people. It would be like requiring an adaptor to play the original SMB on the NES, then making it so the adaptor didn't fit.

This one wasn't one of them I was referencing. Perhaps I should have bolded them.

It's still not fair when you take into account the fact that Sony has always been for backwards compatibility. Microsoft is rather exempt from this as Peter Moore won't shut up about how backwards compatability not being important (despite this being to the contrary for more than 20 years), and as such they kind of wrote themselve out of it by labeling it as a privelage.
Sony has never made it necessary to buy something for backwards compatability (despite it being the norm, truthfully). You can't tell me that with all of the amazing slots and expansion areas Sony couldn't have slipped both a Dual Shock slot and a Memory card slot for less than $10 combined.

Maybe because an HDD has a significantly faster write speed, and Memcards are obsolete? Sony saves money on costs to leave it out. Otherwise they end up having to integrate that hardware to function with the new system, and then to function only with PS1 and PS2 games. Not worth the time for them, when a group of PS3 owners can toss together 3 bucks a piece, buy the mem card adapter, and then pass it around to transfer saves.

$10 one time purchase sure beats a $100 premium to enjoy your favorite Xbox games that may or may not work on your 360.

 

[Tornado]

Maybe because an HDD has a significantly faster write speed, and Memcards are obsolete?

And you were going so well...So, why is this? Becuase Sony introduced it? Sony also introduced the block system to Memory Cards, remember.
Anyways, I'd like to know how this is the case, when memory cards were introduced to consoles after hard drives for saving games. In addition, if memory card are obsolete, than so are all forms of non-HDD based storage, including SD cards and Flash-based memory because the concept is exactly the same.

Sony saves money on costs to leave it out.

You do realise that Sony is suffering tremendous losses on even the 20GB PS3, right? I'm sure $10 for both memory card support and control wouldn't really be too much to stomach.

$10 one time purchase sure beats a $100 premium to enjoy your favorite Xbox games that may or may not work on your 360.

If $100 really offends your backwards-compatability sensebilities, and you have original XBox games; maybe you could, you know, play them on your original XBox. 💡
The only reasons I'm angered by Sony not including these things with the PS3 is because:

1. Sony set themselves up for it by not requiring it before, and
2. The cost hit Sony will take is negligable compared to everything else

Otherwise they end up having to integrate that hardware to function with the new system, and then to function only with PS1 and PS2 games.

Of course! No one bought the original Playstation or Playstation 2. By that logic Microsofts stance on backwards compatability is correct and Sony shouldn't even bother with it at all.

 

[LaBounti]

Why do the EBgames/Gamestop sell outs make head lines?

3600+ stores average 9 per store around 32000+ systems, 368000 some remain for north american. Big deal...

...I may be waiting outside a 24 hour Wal mart miles away from the city..

 

[DuckRacer]

maybe you could, you know, play them on your original XBox. 💡

True, but having a massive old console on your shelf takes up space.

 

[LaBounti]

I wish i could get rid of my xbox but i still play a few games that dont work on the 360. I WILL get rid of my ps2 when i get ps3.

 

[Tornado]

True, but having a massive old console on your shelf takes up space.

That must be the problem then, because I've never had any reservations about having an older console hooked up (PS2 compatability issues taught me that, with various problems with Sega systems reinforced it).

 

[DuckRacer]

I wish i could get rid of my xbox but i still play a few games that dont work on the 360. I WILL get rid of my ps2 when i get ps3.

Same here. Or I might keep mine for novelty purposes, since my schoolbook takes twice as much space.

 

[Jeremy Ricci]

And you were going so well...So, why is this? Becuase Sony introduced it? Sony also introduced the block system to Memory Cards, remember.
Anyways, I'd like to know how this is the case, when memory cards were introduced to consoles after hard drives for saving games. In addition, if memory card are obsolete, than so are all forms of non-HDD based storage, including SD cards and Flash-based memory because the concept is exactly the same.

You do realise that Sony is suffering tremendous losses on even the 20GB PS3, right? I'm sure $10 for both memory card support and control wouldn't really be too much to stomach.

If $100 really offends your backwards-compatability sensebilities, and you have original XBox games; maybe you could, you know, play them on your original XBox. 💡
The only reasons I'm angered by Sony not including these things with the PS3 is because:

1. Sony set themselves up for it by not requiring it before, and
2. The cost hit Sony will take is negligable compared to everything else

Of course! No one bought the original Playstation or Playstation 2. By that logic Microsofts stance on backwards compatability is correct and Sony shouldn't even bother with it at all.

I don't even know if I should bother wasting my time pulling the legs out from under your "points".

If you can't see what I'm talking about, then it's best I not enter a debate on the topic, or persue it any further, as you will likely not understand what I am saying to you anyway.

 

[DuckRacer]

I don't even know if I should bother wasting my time pulling the legs out from under your "points".

If you can't see what I'm talking about, then it's best I not enter a debate on the topic, or persue it any further, as you will likely not understand what I am saying to you anyway.

I saw your points. However, I'd like you two to debate for us people-with-no-lives to read.

 

[Tornado]

I don't even know if I should bother wasting my time pulling the legs out from under your "points".
If you can't see what I'm talking about, then it's best I not enter a debate on the topic, or persue it any further, as you will likely not understand what I am saying to you anyway.

Right, I'm sorry that I forgot that as I don't preach the gospel of Sony, and that as my opinion isn't 100% pro-PS3 and anti-Nintendo and Microsoft; everything I say is wrong, without a point and not of my understanding.
I'm am getting pretty sick of trying to enter a debate with anybody, only to be cut off at the knees by you because I don't enter the PS3 thread spouting off exaggerated, overly polite and (occasionally) downright wrong statements like you so lovingly do (Memory cards are obselete? Where in hell did you get that from? Ken Kutaragi Monthly or the Kaz Hirai Times?).
The fact is that you refuse to argue my points because you have nothing to argue them on; probably because the Vail of Sony has been blinding you to the fact that there is in fact two more consoles on or coming to the market.

 

[JNasty4G63]

I saw your points. However, I'd like you two to debate for us people-with-no-lives to read.

Yea. I'd like to witness this one of these from the OUTSIDE looking in myself, so get to it. HA HA HA

Hilg

 

[LaBounti]

I just may wait for the second shippment. If its in mid november and not in December.

 

[Jay]

BTW, look at the first year of games the PS3 offers:


Grand Theft Auto IV

First year? Great! Whats the estimated release date so far?

 

[Jeremy Ricci]

October 2007.

 

[KENJIusa]

www.Playbeyond.com

New US PS3 site, it has a puzzle filled with symbols, those symbols are infact represent letters.


Someone was albe to crack the puzzle HERE👍


Click HERE too see what you'll get once all the puzzles are cracked

👍

 

[DuckRacer]

This is what you'll see when you boot up your PS3.

 

[Dave A]

That's a pretty quick boot up.