PS4 PS4: T300 GTE or T500RS

Discussion in 'Project CARS 1' started by Brit999, Nov 6, 2014.

  1. PRO_TOO

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    @Brit999 : please copy this to the op. Make it sticky! It might help others and we don't have to tell again and again...

    Good summary, @thegt500!!
     
  2. Fight-Test

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    good point bleeder, I had static shifter on my 370z and now ones that move on the new WRX and like the ones that move much better and why I got the T300rs. I know alot of race cars use static though. Its a big difference between the two but if you have a short degree rotation on the wheel the static shouldn't be a problem. In a real car they were just a pain.
     
  3. thegt500

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    Yes, I forgot about the static paddles on the 500 :banghead:
    I will say though, the paddles on the 300 are great. You can still shift if you need to even on quite a severe lock, but I find in the event of a full on spin situation, finding the correct up/down option can be confusing in the heat of the moment :D
     
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  4. bleeder

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    yes there's been many times when I've spun out in Driveclub and not realised which way up the wheel was until it tried to break my wrists as it straightens up again.
     
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  5. Brit999

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    Thank you for pointing me to the reply, and thank you to thegt500. I have now added the advice to the OP.

    Thanks to both.

    Edit: Mod, can we please make this thread a sticky? The information in this thread is invaluable to PS4 users, and probably to XBone and PC users to.
     
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  6. Rexuz

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    Thank you for the help!
     
  7. notanexpert

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    How do I even connect my t500 to my ps4? Plugged in, calibrated, but how do I tell the ps4 that I want to use the wheel?
     
  8. Pewl

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    U can only use t300 with ps4 menus .. The t500 will only work within game ...
     
  9. notanexpert

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    How do I use it within the game... Can I even use it with GTA v? That's the only game I have with cars atm
     
  10. thegt500

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    From what I understand, the T500 will only work once in the game menu, you need to use the DS4 to navigate to the game, then the wheel should calibrate again and then, finally you can use the navigation buttons on the wheel.
    Like Pewl above says, it's only the T300 that is 100% compatible with the PS4 so you need to use the DS4 initially.

    edit

    I don't have GTA on the PS4 so can't say whether a wheel will work with it sorry.
     
  11. notanexpert

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    Never mind, GTA isn't supported... Scared me for a second thought I bought a broken wheel
     
  12. thegt500

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    You should try DriveClub with a wheel, that feels like the wheel is broken to me :lol:
     
  13. psychoazubi

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    I once tried with the Crew. You can use it in the game menu and assign the buttons as you would for a controller. In Pcars, you can select the T500 among other wheels as input controller and assign the buttons/shifters/pedals
     
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  14. notanexpert

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    When I bought the wheel I was worried about future compatability, but I'm my mind 400 dollars for a wheel that is going for 560 to 600 dollars was a no-brainer. I just hope it feels better than the g27 or I'll be disappointed in such a big purchase.
     
  15. torque99

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    I think this is a great find-cheapest I have seen it here in the UK.. I was looking at the gte wheel now in two minds. I will order one this week..

    @thegt500 great comparison to help :tup:
     
  16. skazz

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    I just had a fun weekend with both my Thrustmaster wheels hooked up, swapping between them while playing AC, pCARS (beta), DiRT Rally and GT6. (T500RS+TH8A versus stock T300RS)

    Rims and ergonomics:
    The smaller rim on the T300 feels good for faster/racier cars, especially open wheelers and GT cars. The larger rim on the T500 feels better for road cars and vintage cars, especially in combination with the H-shifter. I've found that the smaller the rim, the higher up you need to mount it. A small rim only feels "toylike" if you mount it much lower than shoulder height.

    Pedals:
    Obviously the T300 pedals are seriously inferior to the T500 ones in two ways: (1) The plastic pedal base is light and does move around a bit unless you keep both feet on it (2) The brake is too light for decent threshold braking.
    But the accelerator is fine, and for many gaming experiences the "pain" of the brake is limited. I wouldn't want to run an iRacing race in a car without ABS using the T300 pedals, but slightly less serious racing is no problem.

    I am still intending to grab a pair of T3PA-Pro pedals for my T300.... when they are finally released in this country :(

    Paddles:
    It's "swings and roundabouts" here: For instance when rallying it's really nice to have fixed paddles so you always know which is which no matter how you spin the wheel around. For race cars, paddles on the rim are best.
    For road cars it really doesn't matter whether you have fixed or moving paddles, because you almost never need to shift at a moment where your hands are not able to stretch to a fixed paddles.

    FFB and wheel feel:
    I have always preferred a light and agile wheel. In my opinion you can always add damping but you can't remove inherent resistance, and that's the bottom line with which I assess every wheel.

    For me, the extra power of the T500 is outweighed by the extra turning resistance. The T500 feels powerful and firm, and for many people that resistance is actually a good thing since it gives the wheel more of a realistic feel in combination with the power: You are fighting something which feels sturdy.

    The T300 sometimes feels a bit odd if you run it without damping (like overly light power steering), but doing so makes it much easier to drift with because you can spin it quickly and with great accuracy. Same with rally: you can hold tricky situations easily with a dab of instant opposite lock, where the same action with the T500 would require much more skill.

    You could say that the T300 reduces immersion (compared to the T500) in return for the benefit of easier car handling.

    Summary:
    I love both of these Thrustmaster wheels for different reasons and to me they are both significantly better than any Logitech wheel or the Fanatec GT2 (not had the opportunity to compare to a Fanatec CSW v1/v2).

    I am thankfully in a position to be able to pick whichever wheel of the two I fancy depending on what I want to race. If I had to pick my ideal TM combination it would be T300 base, T500/T3PA-Pro pedals, TH8A shifter. But I could quite happily live with the T500RS+TH8A combination.
     
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  17. Brit999

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    Thanks for a great write-up. I have added a link in the OP, I think lots of people will find it useful!
     
  18. PRO_TOO

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    :tup: now you get it! ;) it raises the quality of the thread, imo!
     
  19. Brit999

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    Anyone know how I can contact a Mod or Admin to have this thread moved into the help section and possibly get it stickied? I think it has a lot of useful info in the OP now, and it could possibly get lost if someone is not using the search function.
     
  20. BLACKNESS78

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    I'm in New Zealand desperate to get a t300rs. Does anyone know of a good deal online that will ship internationally with the 240V power supply of course?

    They are $799 here which is a bit steep. Under $600 would be great!
     
  21. Fryto

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    I hope my T300 holds up.
    Third time I use it now, since I got it back from Thrustmaster RMA. When calibrating, it spins fast to the left and than pretty slowly to the right. It's making me nervous as I had to RMA it because of a calibration failure.
    I'm now waiting until the update for Project CARS has finally downloaded to try it. Hopefully not another malfunction...
     
  22. Brit999

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    The equivalent price is about $485 here in the UK. I am not sure what cost the shipping would be, but I guess it would take a while to get there at any price. And if the b**ger went wrong it could cost a fortune :(
     
  23. Fryto

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    And my T300 broke again :(
    Exactly the same issue as I had before, that the wheel won't stop calibrating itself.
    I had it sent back for repair and received it again a couple of weeks ago. Tried it two times with Driveclub and it seemed to work again.
    Yesterday I try it with PCARS for the first time and it worked fine, apart from the initial calibration that wasn't as how I expected. This morning I noticed that the FFB was starting to act inconsistently. Then when re-starting my PS4 it wouldn't stop calibrating itself, just like before.

    Back to square one and Thrustmaster support.

    Really gutted...
     
  24. TomBrady

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    The T300's pedals are a HUGE step up from DFGT pedals, and a step up from G27 pedals, other than the lack of a clutch.
     
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  25. wingman1659

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    Wow really?! I currently have a DFGT with G27 pedals and I was worried I might be downgrading in pedals if I just got the T300 (adding T3PA but probably not for another year).
     
  26. TomBrady

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    That's what I think at least. There's also mods for them that'll make the brake a little more realistic but I'm okay with the way it is now
     
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    That's good to hear, I admit I've never had a DFGT so was basing that part of my comment on what I'd read from other's comments in the forums. I've been using my wheel a while now and can say the stock pedals are not that bad, but in the end I bought a CPX adapter from Basherboards.com which allowed me to use my Fanatec Clubsport Elites pedals and am very satisfied with the results. I would highly recommend it to anyone who may be considering it.
     
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  28. TCR

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    I have a T300 but in the game under Controls it shows up as a T500, is that normal?
     
  29. McKiernan

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    Probably a dumb question but have you checked that you have it in PS4 mode? I forgot to do that myself the first time I got on game :banghead:
     
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  30. TCR

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    I did switch it at some point because I had been previously playing GT6 on the PS3, but can't remember if it was before I fired up the game or not. I may disconnect it and reconnect it to see if the same thing happens.
     
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