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CoolGeekz
Bingo we have a winner....
I avoid drifting with anything over 350 hp
plus avoid racecars....they are very tough to drift right
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not having high power isn't great advice. get harder tires and you can easily use more power.
 
my advice is to go grab a stock car...
throw some comfort tires on it
go practice yer techniques.....
with dfp.....turn in or feint...feel for the wheel to self countersteer and stop it prematurely....pay attention to throttle control....keep drifting...

Driftin and this game is all feel....try different approaches...use what you learn fits your style...

Drifting is style...we all have a different twist to the same thing....use what works for you...
 
NIGHT_WARRIOR
i got a good question: does anyone know how to start sliding before a corner and continue the drift thru the corner(without the use of the hand brake) ??
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well this is what i do if I drift an underpowered car

1. make sure the car have lots of speed before the corner
2. feint before the corner
3. hit the brake to lock all the tires
4. counter steer and gas
5. smile :)
 
For long corners i suggest a "Dynamic" drift which is where u just let off the throttle and turn then back on usually this will make u over-steer slightly. Also yo shouldnt need to use this often, remember to let off the throttle before the corner lol...otherwise u will just understeer which sucks, looks crap and is bad for ur reputation LoL

keep up the driftin d00ds
 
extreme car
well this is what i do if I drift an underpowered car

1. make sure the car have lots of speed before the corner
2. feint before the corner
3. hit the brake to lock all the tires
4. counter steer and gas
5. smile :)
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First rule of drifting any car(mostly underpowered cars) KNOW YOUR POWERBAND, a powerband is the spot in a Dyno graph showing where the power IS AT MAXIMUM so it will be from a certain amount of revs to a higher amount lol normally its from around 5000rpm to 7000rpm but when your settings change(regarding the engine) your powerband might also change so keep an eye on the dyno graph in your "settings"
 
oh an also about the powerband while drifting if your revs drop below your powerband expect ur drift to "die in the arse" eg. The AE86 has a small powerband in the upper revs and if it drops below the powerband mid drift ur gonna experience a snap over counter steer lol

((((id just like to state to any ppl who dont know what a Sil-Eighty is im gonna tell you its an S13 front with a 180Sx rear also i dont know if you have heard of a Onevia said one-via its the exact opposite of the sil-eighty))))
 
dking
my advice is to go grab a stock car...
throw some comfort tires on it
go practice yer techniques.....
with dfp.....turn in or feint...feel for the wheel to self countersteer and stop it prematurely....pay attention to throttle control....keep drifting...

Driftin and this game is all feel....try different approaches...use what you learn fits your style...

Drifting is style...we all have a different twist to the same thing....use what works for you...
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Unfortunately, I don't have DFP. :indiff:
 
Don't worry, some of the smoothest drifters around are using the DS2... it's just a bit more delicate than using a wheel. I even used the d-pad. Again, this is all about getting a feel for handling the car.. drifting requires a bit more calculation and prediction than grip driving.. whatever you do on entry will come back to haunt you mid-corner ;)

I'm not quite sure I agree on using stock cars though... they often require a bit of manhandling to get sideways, and that won't exactly teach you smoothness.. though a few "stock" cars like the Nismo 270R are very very nice on N1s... provided you change the gearbox ;)

The other best "semi stock" car I can think of atm is carious used FD RX7s (1991-1998). Give it slightly more power (300-350 hp) and some N1 or N2s, and keep the stock suspension, lsd and drivetrain.

After you're comfortable tossing the cars into the corners, THEN I'd advice going into arcade mode for some stock car drifting.. I'd never go higher than N2s for stock cars though.. most likely N1.
 
Ske
Don't worry, some of the smoothest drifters around are using the DS2... it's just a bit more delicate than using a wheel. I even used the d-pad. Again, this is all about getting a feel for handling the car.. drifting requires a bit more calculation and prediction than grip driving.. whatever you do on entry will come back to haunt you mid-corner ;)

I'm not quite sure I agree on using stock cars though... they often require a bit of manhandling to get sideways, and that won't exactly teach you smoothness.. though a few "stock" cars like the Nismo 270R are very very nice on N1s... provided you change the gearbox ;)

The other best "semi stock" car I can think of atm is carious used FD RX7s (1991-1998). Give it slightly more power (300-350 hp) and some N1 or N2s, and keep the stock suspension, lsd and drivetrain.

After you're comfortable tossing the cars into the corners, THEN I'd advice going into arcade mode for some stock car drifting.. I'd never go higher than N2s for stock cars though.. most likely N1.
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Let me explain myself for saying stock cars....X-link kai only allows you to use stock car settings with just choices for tires available....I haven't had any trouble drifting all kinds of stock cars around although, some do take their own special flavor to get drifting right....Since i spend a lot of time on link (if my nets working) I drift with mostly stock settings and they seem to get just as wild as tuned cars....ok not that wild.
 
dking
Let me explain myself for saying stock cars....X-link kai only allows you to use stock car settings with just choices for tires available....I haven't had any trouble drifting all kinds of stock cars around although, some do take their own special flavor to get drifting right....Since i spend a lot of time on link (if my nets working) I drift with mostly stock settings and they seem to get just as wild as tuned cars....ok not that wild.
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Yeah well what I was getting at is that stock cars may be too subtle for upstarts... you have to be pretty effective to drift them, aggressive and precise. I think lightly tuned cars (at least some extra power and less weight) will be easier to learn the basics on, as they're a bit more forgiving. They'll also teach you more moderation.. stock cars require you to go full throttle a lot of the time.

I do feel that drifting stock cars is an important stage in learning, but it may be a little steep for beginners... especially if you're as impatient as me ;)
 
Use a wheel not a joypad.

Get a setup that you're really confident with.

Don't have too much power.

Use a good track e.g. midfield raceway.
 
MdnIte
Welcome to the drift forum Night_Warrior. I notice you've been here on GTP awhile.

Here's a tip everyone can use. Power isn't everything ;)
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Definitely. I run 207 HP with my SS AE86, and its AWESOME. Practice/learning is fun at Autumn Ring/Autumn Ring Mini. Feint like crazy. Soft suspension in the front, hard in the back. N2 tires. Um... What else...
 
The other best "semi stock" car I can think of atm is carious used FD RX7s (1991-1998). Give it slightly more power (300-350 hp) and some N1 or N2s, and keep the stock suspension, lsd and drivetrain.
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rofl the FD was from 1991 - 2002 :) they might not be a hell of a lot different but they are...think about it like the WRX STi and the WRX STi Spec C almost the same but different :)
 
Ske
Yeah well what I was getting at is that stock cars may be too subtle for upstarts... you have to be pretty effective to drift them, aggressive and precise. I think lightly tuned cars (at least some extra power and less weight) will be easier to learn the basics on, as they're a bit more forgiving. They'll also teach you more moderation.. stock cars require you to go full throttle a lot of the time.

I do feel that drifting stock cars is an important stage in learning, but it may be a little steep for beginners... especially if you're as impatient as me ;)
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Actually i'd leave less weight to good drifters rather than new drifters because the car is more likely to snap one way or another if ur not careful....weight is a good thing just not too much of it like they say too much of a good thing can be bad lol anyway weight is a good learning factor like teaching you how to shift it with ease and learn it good also for learning how to control an "Inertia Drift".........a great car to start inertia drifting in is the MR-2 i cant remember what year one is best but i think its around 1991-1995
 
identti
Use a wheel not a joypad.

Get a setup that you're really confident with.

Don't have too much power.

Use a good track e.g. midfield raceway.
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ummm havent u been reading?

DS2 drifters are just as good as DFP drifters...........i myself have been using the DS2 for ages in GT4 i have had no problems....tho im getting a steering wheel soon i'll see if ur right about the whole DFP Drifting
 
NIGHT_WARRIOR
rofl the FD was from 1991 - 2002 :) they might not be a hell of a lot different but they are...think about it like the WRX STi and the WRX STi Spec C almost the same but different :)
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The "new" FD (Spirit A or whatshisname) is a completely different beast than the used ones.. a LOT more understeer and rear end grip.. which is why I said 91-98.. I recommend the used FDs, not the new one. Try them for yourself and feel the difference ;)
The Impreza spec C is very different to drift than say the used WRX v VI.

Actually i'd leave less weight to good drifters rather than new drifters because the car is more likely to snap one way or another if ur not careful....weight is a good thing just not too much of it like they say too much of a good thing can be bad lol anyway weight is a good learning factor like teaching you how to shift it with ease and learn it good also for learning how to control an "Inertia Drift"
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That snap is a good way to learn control though.. and by riding on stock or soft suspension/LSD, it's easy to smooth it out a bit (lower stabilizers, dampers and initial LSD). Heavy cars are a great way to learn to control weight, though I think lighter cars may be easier for the beginner... just to learn setting up basic lines and angles.
 
That snap is a good way to learn control though.. and by riding on stock or soft suspension/LSD, it's easy to smooth it out a bit (lower stabilizers, dampers and initial LSD). Heavy cars are a great way to learn to control weight, though I think lighter cars may be easier for the beginner... just to learn setting up basic lines and angles.
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you still get that same snap in a heavy car....so learning to stop that on a heavyer is easyer then move onto the more advanced light weight techniques :)
 
I'd say using soft sports tires(I only use SS tires)is more effective in building skill in controlling snap than of the standard(N) tires that you have suggested.
 
Here's the best drift tip I can tell anybody (applies to real life too):

HAVE FUN!!!!

Quit over-thinking the situation. If you think about what your doing you've already messed up. You don't have time to think. All you can do is have fun out there and learn the car/track combination your using like the back of your hand. It really is a feel you have to have for the car and the surface type. You need to be able to feel the balance and look at the road ahead.

The best session you will ever have will make you feel like you are a part of the car. Man and machine are one and you are totally in the zone. You feel what the car feels, you see what the car see's and you never have to think about anything, it just happens. It's also the most fun you will ever have behind the wheel IMO.

btw, that's just a fancy way of saying...............PRACTICE! and don't take it too seriously. you will do better when you are having fun, trust me.
 
Also I would like to break the misconception that some things are better for drifting. They aren't. You can drift anything. What matters is personal feel. No two people are alike and everyone will prefer a different set up. It is best to learn to drive any set up, that way you are relying on your skill, not the cars performance and that will always serve you to become a better driver/drifter.

edit: case in point: 05 Mustang GT is one of my fav. drift cars along with the Genki Hyper Silvia D1GP.
 
@rsmith: I agree, if you've been drifting for a while, or have a background in RL driving/drifting. I remember starting up just a short while ago, and those kinds of comments made no sense to me because I had no idea what I was doing wrong lol... Some specific tips may be good for starters, to help iron out the obvious pitfalls.. Your comments do apply once the very very basics are learned, but before that it's meaningless so say "do what you feel is right" when there's no reference or starting point at all..

And: I do feel that some cars ARE better for newcomers, simply because they're much easier to initiate correctly with and don't require that much control and experience. Once you've learned the basics and start developing your own preferences, personal taste in cars and style or whatever start to surface and I start agreeing with you ;)

and @NW: I was really trying to say sort of what you're saying now as opposed to what you said earlier, or something (lol?)... But I really think that heavy/light falls a bit under personal preference as well, and probably won't matter until you're starting to feel comfortable with one or the other (or both). What I think matters most for starters is getting a car that's responsive, to make understanding how various techniques work easier.

.. and I just woke up, so I'm not sure if I'm making sense to others, but I do feel I know what people are having hard times with simply because I had the same issues not too long ago, and overcame them quickly with the help of specific technique and tuning clues.
 
G-T-4-Fan
Feint, just steer your car left and right a bit before a corner and then throw it into a drift when the timing is right. You got to have the timing right so practice alot and download a drift video of some pretty good known drifter:tup:
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Never forget the importance and usefullness of the feint. Mix the feint with a brake and you've got a 1) sure fire drift entrance that can become a 2) spinout without proper control. So why do I suggest this? I find it to be a very useful technique in AWD cars, and if you adjust the timing of your braking, it can become a great method fo FR cars aswell.
 
with most cars... the earlier you do your steering work, the less steering work you have to do overall... and dont let the car snap violently at the exit unless you are linking into the next turn. it makes the drift look less skillfull if there's snapback towards the end. 👎
 

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