Rain tyres vs Intermediate tyres

[revesburger]

Hi guys,

How do you choose between Rain and Intermediate tyres during a race?

I was playing B-Spec Suzuka 1000km the other day and it "stopped" raining. Bob wanted to pit for tyres so I kept changing between Slick/Intermediate/Rain but he was never happy. Either spinning with Slick or trying to pit with Rain/Intermediate.

Sorry if someone has already asked this.

Cheers

 

[bombe32]

I am going to test it someday: My experience is that rain tyres' grip is so bad that intermediates have better grip WHILE raining too.

My theory.

 

[revesburger]

I remember using Rain Tyres on the Rally Challenges and kicking ass. Sometimes the rain seemed to stop but the grip was still the same

 

[Me007gold]

If its raining, use rain tires
After its stoped raining/raining very lightly, and the track is still wet use intermediate tires
When the track is trying use Normal tires

 

[grog]

I just did this race yesterday, go with intermediate tires (in the rain) once the racing slicks start to understeer.
Rain tires suck all around.
If this is a b-spec question, there are times when wet, that bob will never be satisfied with your tire choice.

 

[Slashzor308]

Racing softs ... nuff said.

 

[grog]

Racing softs ... nuff said.

Actually not enough said bro

Try those in an endurance race. There becomes a point at which it gets too wet to use slicks.
I was able to use slicks for an hour an a half, then the rain increased and grip decreased. I found the at this point the slicks started to understeer badly.

I switched to intermediates and improved my corner speed, my laps may have been a bit slower but when faced with 4 more hours like this I choose intermediates.

In short races though slicks are probably the way to go.

 

[Slashzor308]

Seen my levels? Trust me i've experimented with the tyres enough, the rains/inters have NOTHING on the softs. My lap times at Le Mans are literally 20-30 seconds slower.

Racing softfs are really OP in GT5.

 

[grog]

Seen my levels? Trust me i've experimented with the tyres enough, the rains/inters have NOTHING on the softs. My lap times at Le Mans are literally 20-30 seconds slower.

Racing softfs are really OP in GT5.

Cool more words, so I assume you mean in endurance races? at suzuka even? In heavy rain?

I used to think the same thing you did untill I did the suzuka 1000.

 

[Sohvakettu]

Racing softs in GT5 are made of magic rubber. The division of hard, medium and soft in GT5 is partially fantasy as in reality circumstances (track temperature and setup for example...) would dictate what compound should be used.

 

[StevenDunn99]

Hi guys,

How do you choose between Rain and Intermediate tyres during a race?

I was playing B-Spec Suzuka 1000km the other day and it "stopped" raining. Bob wanted to pit for tyres so I kept changing between slick/Intermediate/Rain but he was never happy. Either spinning with Slick or trying to pit with Rain/Intermediate.

Sorry if someone has already asked this.

Cheers

In Bspec you should leave Bob to make the decisions on tyres once the race started, he will overrule you next time around if he disagrees.

 

[o9lifted]

True u'll go faster on the slicks in rain but the car is much more unstable, with rain tyres you'll go in a straight line with slicks or any other tyres youll be a bit more sliding in straight line, and ur braking distance gets longer with soft/ no rain tyres.. IMO

 

[Thatperson]

I ran all 172 laps of the Suzuka 1000km endurance race with racing slicks. I have tired the other 2 before and didn't like them. I have better control and speed using the slicks.

 

[BoneSawTX]

Seen my levels? Trust me i've experimented with the tyres enough, the rains/inters have NOTHING on the softs. My lap times at Le Mans are literally 20-30 seconds slower.

Racing softfs are really OP in GT5.

Accidently started a race on soft's while it was raining and experienced no traction loss. This was on La Sarthe in the Dream Championship.

 

[StevenDunn99]

Actually not enough said bro

Try those in an endurance race. There becomes a point at which it gets too wet to use slicks.
I was able to use slicks for an hour an a half, then the rain increased and grip decreased. I found the at this point the slicks started to understeer badly.

I switched to intermediates and improved my corner speed, my laps may have been a bit slower but when faced with 4 more hours like this I choose intermediates.

In short races though slicks are probably the way to go.

I am with Grog here. As he says RS are quicker in the rain, but in an endurance you sometimes want the easy way rather than the quickest way, especially if you have a healthy lead.

btw, there is quite a lot of research available on tyre performance in the forum for those who want more info.

 

[grog]

One more thing to add is that the intermediate tires last a lot longer in the rain. On racing softs I would burn a half tank by the time I needed new tires, for intermediates I would burn 7/8 of a tank before needing tires, they might even last longer than a tank.

 

[thefast1]

GT5 really needs track condition reports available to us so we can make judgement on what tires to use, IMO any game with rain effects should have a track condition report.

 

[Flogger]

GT5 really needs track condition reports available to us so we can make judgement on what tires to use, IMO any game with rain effects should have a track condition report.

Just wait at the "Welcome window" before pressing start, you'll hear and see the rain in about 30 seconds.

 

[Morphisor]

using racing softs against the AI is nearly cheating in my opinion, as the AI will never use them, and as said they give ridiculous grip, more than any tires currently used in real racing.

If anything I would use lesser tires than what the AI has, to even things out.

 

[dez_nutz52]

using racing softs against the AI is nearly cheating in my opinion, as the AI will never use them, and as said they give ridiculous grip, more than any tires currently used in real racing.

If anything I would use lesser tires than what the AI has, to even things out.

Yeah same here. I like to use comfort tires on my oem prius for endurance races just so the ai has a chance.

 

[parabulla]

Drove La Sarthe in changing conditions just briefly last night. The softs continued to work well for about 2 or 3 laps from the time it started raining. After that, the Inters worked better on medium to low speed corners, but the full wets kept me tracking better on the straights.

Not claiming expertise, just sharing a recent experience.

 

[nw99]

On B-Spec when I was on Suzuka in the FGT race, I did have a few laps lead when the AI all decided to pit in for rain tires, I, however equipped my bob with intermediate tires.
After checking the live timings tab, I saw that the AI were putting in laps that were 15 seconds faster than bobs, so I promptly switched him to rain tires. This shows that rain tires are actually very effective in B-spec compared to the intermediates which I thought would of been not as drastically bad compared to the rain tires

 

[dez_nutz52]

On B-Spec when I was on Suzuka in the FGT race, I did have a few laps lead when the AI all decided to pit in for rain tires, I, however equipped my bob with intermediate tires.
After checking the live timings tab, I saw that the AI were putting in laps that were 15 seconds faster than bobs, so I promptly switched him to rain tires. This shows that rain tires are actually very effective in B-spec compared to the intermediates which I thought would of been not as drastically bad compared to the rain tires

I don't get the bobs and the rain tires, I also noticed they act the same on intermediate as they do when you have regular ones on in the rain. I stopped trying to use intermediate for bspec and either go with rain or regular.

 

[revesburger]

Thanks for the info, guys... I will put Bob on a wet track again soon and let's see how he performs

for A-Spec, when driving the Rally Special Events, I noticed that Rain Tyres were way much better than even Racing Soft, at least on my Subaru WRX...

 

[freight48]

I have a feeling a new patch will address the issue of racing softs working in the rain. Then you'll have to choose between inters or full wets.

 

[eight6er]

Hi guys,

How do you choose between Rain and Intermediate tyres during a race?

I was playing B-Spec Suzuka 1000km the other day and it "stopped" raining. Bob wanted to pit for tyres so I kept changing between Slick/Intermediate/Rain but he was never happy. Either spinning with Slick or trying to pit with Rain/Intermediate.

Sorry if someone has already asked this.

Cheers

I had this same thing happen the other day, it drove me mad. B-spec Suzuka 1000km, it was a wet race and I checked every now and then to see how it was going, it was fine for the first 130 laps or so, then I checked and Bob was on the first corner, doing donuts along with 5 other AI cars. It was still raining and he had racing hard tyres on, so I told him to pit. Eventually he got to the pits after taking about 5mins drifting and spinning around the track. I had to tell him to put on rain tyres as he was pitting, because if I put it in the pit strategy, he would still put on race hards. Bob and the AI were trying to drive like it was dry on a wet surface, because even with the rain or intermediate tyres Bob was still likely to spin out a few times. The AI were still on slicks and just hitting the limiter spinning and drifting. I had to stay and stop bob from pitting for the wrong tyres every lap, for the rest of the race. The race took 7hrs 30mins in the FGT

 

[dsgerbc]

b-spec -I leave it to bob. A-spec - slicks. Online - depends on 'grip reduction' settings. If 'Real' - rain tires are the only choice that will get you moving and turning.

 

[SledgeHJR]

I am watching my Bob racing on Formula GT championship at Suzuka (race 6/6). This is after a wet Monza (race5/6) where I started him on wets whilst the other cars started on slicks and changed to wets on L1.

Suzuka didnt look quite as wet so i decided to start him on inters. The rest all started on wets and after L1 I was 1m3s ahead (before end of L1 I had to cancel the pit stop as the computer wanted Bob to change to full wets). On L12 (doing nothing other than cancelling the pit stop every lap) my Bob was 3laps ahead, passing everything with ease. Bob lapping at 2:40 and other cars lapping around 3:45 per lap.

I was getting bored with sitting there cancelling the pitstop each lap so I let Bob pit onto wets. He is now faster and flying past the other cars with my Bob running around 2:31 per lap.

The other cars are showing as running Rain tyres but I think in the code they must be slicks. They are not using much fuel at all (also sliding a lot) so I wont get to see if they improve after they pit.

Oh well, an easy win for my Bob and I will go and do something else until the end of the race.

 

[awr117]

I'm running the 24 hours Le Mans race. I'm 6 hours in and its been raining for the past 5 hours. The surface has 100% water on it. I've tested both rain tires and intermediate. My lap times are around 20 seconds quicker with the intermediate tires with 100% water on the surface. The rain tires are pointless imo. The car handles like it is on ice in the corners and nearly impossible to get the power down while exiting a turn.

 

[Morgoth_666]

I'm running the 24 hours Le Mans race. I'm 6 hours in and its been raining for the past 5 hours. The surface has 100% water on it. I've tested both rain tires and intermediate. My lap times are around 20 seconds quicker with the intermediate tires with 100% water on the surface. The rain tires are pointless imo. The car handles like it is on ice in the corners and nearly impossible to get the power down while exiting a turn.

But are the inters faster than race softs? Endurance races use Low Grip Reduction, they just have fuel and wear enabled.