Reason why theres no Livery editor for GT5/PS3

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Yep, and I heard PD has a exclusive rights on Car Washes and B-Spec so no other game can feature them. Pretty fair if you ask me.

They have exclusive rights on a Sport ECU modification on a carburator injection equipped engine too. I guess they have exclusive rights on vacuum cleaners sounds.
 
That would require they pay someone to do the policing, which means there'd be one less person doing actual development work in PDs employ.
Why would anyone have a developer moderating images? That's an entry level job at best.
 
PD has invented its own unique livery system in GT5 you know, it's a revolutionary continuously changing system whereby the livery randomly changes depending on the position you take on the track and takes into account the effects of speed and sunlight/shadows, it basically is based on reflecting the surroundings.

How does it work I hear you say, well simply paint a car Silver/Gold Chrome. :p

Hmmm... naaa.
I think PD's own unique livery sistem in GT5 really is just to paint using chips (Coloring) and change the RM cars' numbers (as our Livery Editor). :yuck:

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GT5 has a hard enough time with different music file types, let alone all the Image types out there...bugcity.

Then theres Taste, and Appropriateness. Many lack both. I'm sure in some narcissistic way, Kaz does not want images of his game, his baby, soiled by large penises composed of basic geometric forms.

Or the flock of teens pushing around 86's with Bieber and Gomez making out on the bonnet.


The shame is that all the great livery artists' talents will go untapped in GT, and all the real race fans will have more generic cars.

Take my word, the day GT includes free livery editors, it will at once, become classier and more refined, as well as uglier and more juvenile.
 
GT5 has a hard enough time with different music file types, let alone all the Image types out there...bugcity.

Then theres Taste, and Appropriateness. Many lack both. I'm sure in some narcissistic way, Kaz does not want images of his game, his baby, soiled by large penises composed of basic geometric forms.

Or the flock of teens pushing around 86's with Bieber and Gomez making out on the bonnet.


The shame is that all the great livery artists' talents will go untapped in GT, and all the real race fans will have more generic cars.

Take my word, the day GT includes free livery editors, it will at once, become classier and more refined, as well as uglier and more juvenile.

Where are you getting this? There is a real life case study in the form of Forza's livery community that completely dispels this.

What you WILL find is that the majority of players will purchase either real-life liveries, fantastic original creations, or any other design where it's obvious that the artist has true talent and spent hours and hours creating their design.

Just load up Forza, sort designs by "Most Downloaded" and you'll see that your assumptions have no basis.
 
Where are you getting this? There is a real life case study in the form of Forza's livery community that completely dispels this.

What you WILL find is that the majority of players will purchase either real-life liveries, fantastic original creations, or any other design where it's obvious that the artist has true talent and spent hours and hours creating their design.

Just load up Forza, sort designs by "Most Downloaded" and you'll see that your assumptions have no basis.

I'm basing it on the general attitudes and "vibe" of 90% of public lobbies.

OBVIOUSLY, theres alot of real race fans who want authentic, or realistic liveries, this i mentioned, but at the same time, theres the others.
 
Haha, I never said there weren't bad designs!

I'm just saying, don't let your fear of what is actually the minority dissuade you from wanting an excellent feature.

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NASCAR The Game has the livery editor. That is why GT5 doesn't have it on PS3 but does on xBox [question period point mark exclamatory symbol]
 
And some of the posts above are why the whole "Penises" fear is abit overplayed to me. There's also these amazing people that I race all the time and can usually solve this problem, called Friends :)
 
I've yet to see a Knob on a car.
Seen plenty driving in the cars though.
 
The reason why no car livery exists is due to lack of online networking capabilities, slow loading times and disc space issues.
The more data sent and received will destruct the current online capabilities, people already quit multiplayer due to slow loading times and online connection issues. And there's no call for it in single player mode, why style the cars you drive and not able to show them?

Maybe with the PS4 you'll see massive improvements offline and online. We can only hope.
 
I believe back around GT5p days Kaz stated in an interview that he did not want to include a livery editor because it would "mask" or "diminish" the detailed work (the car model detail) on the cars. That was Prologue. Of course it made it on the famous powerpoint list, but it was likely cut due to development hell.
 
Why theres no Livery editor in GT5/PS3

Forza/Xbox has the exclusive rights to have Livery Editor?

It would mean taking notes from the other guys, and PD is too proud and arrogant to do that. In their view, they're the undisputed number one and everyone else is a pretender, and it's clearly ridiculous to even consider that anyone else might do something better before they do. If GT doesn't have it before the other guys, it must be bad. The other guys are lagging behind on adopting the really cool features like oil changes and car washes.

Nope, rights have nothing to do with it. I'm guessing the team just ran out of time...

No, that isn't it. They had too much already. A livery editor isn't something that requires fifty people a few years to work out. It's pretty basic relative to stuff like the physics and graphics engines, or modeling a real-world track location in great detail. PD takes way too long accomplishing way too little, so if we're going to keep falling back on "needed more time" then evidently the entire staff needs to be replaced from the incompetent head all the way down.

Yep, and I heard PD has a exclusive rights on Car Washes and B-Spec so no other game can feature them. Pretty fair if you ask me.

Don't forget oil changes, drive-two-inches-from-the-shadows animations, and 4.3 MPH samba bus cruises around a wasted Top Gear track. No game captures the thrill of coasting at half the speed of smell around TGTT better than GT5, or the sheer exhilaration of requesting an oil change every fifty miles to get your three horses back.

^ Indeed, I believe a lot of people would just give up on the series.

I honestly believe a lot of their fanbase is nearly there already. While the diehard fanboys have always defended the game and labeled anyone who didn't worship GT5 as a "troll", the fact is that there are increasingly better alternatives out there and I suspect a lot of fans are becoming increasingly aware of that fact. Not just better alternatives, but ones that come in a timely manner (every two years). If they have to wait much longer for GT6 and then it come out short of FM4 (let alone FM5 which may be here by the time GT6 arrives; not Horizon), that'll probably be the final straw for millions of fans.

I want to note that I'll still get GT6, even if it does fall short of Forza.

If GT6 gets a livery editor it will probably be half assed

It'll be unnecessarily tedious with players having to collect vinyl shapes and color swatches to use in the editor, sort of like how they managed to ruin something basic like painting your car by making you have to buy a car of the desired color and knock a paint chip from it to show the paint shop what royal blue looks like because evidently a paint shop doesn't know what colors are. The game will start you off with ten randomly-selected basic shapes and one random manufacturer logo, and then you must earn the rest by randomly winning them or trading for them.

Having a livery editor means there must also be a way to police it to prevent swastikas, nudity, "$ony $ucks a$$" type banners, and the like. That would require they pay someone to do the policing, which means there'd be one less person doing actual development work in PDs employ.

People like to make ridiculous excuses like this, even though it was never a problem with games from more competent developers. Forza never had a problem with this. I suppose maybe we're suggesting that the bulk of the GT community is more childish with a juvenile desire to plaster all their cars with wangs and boobies? I've spent literally hundreds of hours with FM3 and hundreds with FM4, much of that in Storefront, and never saw a whole lot of sexually-charged images, with the worst just being anime girls in bikinis or other skimpy outfits (not nudity).

Players could report what they find offensive, and if a few players report it then it automatically goes "under review" and is no longer viewable or downloadable from that player's Storefront, so the community is self-regulating. Lots of potentially-offensive content ends up under review, always by the community itself rather than by Turn 10 staff. The staff is only needed to determine whether or not to allow the reported content after it has automatically been removed.
 
Personally I think, there was a livery editor planned at some point. But the idea got scrapped as they hit the limit of playstation's RAM. If you look how low-res many textures are on tracks, in the rain (windcsreen) and even for premium cars and in the cockpit-view. It makes kind of sense that they cannot fit dozens of additional texture layers on every car.
 
My guess would be hardware limitations. GT5 has a lot of cars running at the same time, with track effects like lighting and weather.

I'd much rather have those than a livery editor, personally, but I don't like liveries anyway.
 
PC racers since the 90s, NASCAR 09 (one of the more immature communities at the time), Midnight Club LA & NTG and I've yet to see a Penis on a car. Swastikas sure but then again they're legal & people should be able to display them if that's what they believe in.

The occasionally attempt at a naked girl.... Sure but then again it's not like there has never been a car in one of the worlds most prestigious races that had Naked Girls on it, I'm not aware of the name of the team but there has been a car in the Nurb 24 for the past few years sponsor by Magma Films complete with a big ole decal of a naked girl.

Here is a G-rated version of the car, you can use Google to find the NSFW versions if you want, the car has the nickname "Tittenschlitten"
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I believe there is no livery editor because of differences in models of standard and premium cars. But anyway, I'm not looking forward to the livery editor. Currently we can only paint cars and rims and that doesn't stop people from making the cars as ugly as possible with ridiculous color combinations, and it will only get worse with the editor.
I Agree with this.

I'll recall what i said in another thread, Livery editor won't work here, will be much better if they bring racing modifications back like we had in GT2
 
I Agree with this.

I'll recall what i said in another thread, Livery editor won't work here, will be much better if they bring racing modifications back like we had in GT2

I'll respect your opinion, but I just can't agree with it. With GT, it feels like we have to play in Kaz's playground, but in FM, we get to play in our own. I'm really not trying to turn this into flame war. I just wish that GT had the same sense of freedom because it's a massive game and has a wealth of automotive history and information, but I feel like I'm walking through a museum and I'm not allowed to touch anything. The whole reason the majority of us are into cars is because we like to take what the factory gives us and make it better, but on our own terms.
 
^Agreed. Gran Turismo is still just a video game. You're still sitting behind a TV playing with a wheel or a controller.

The whole notion that GT is too "classy" for liveries is silly. Any racing game is not too classy for a livery editor; there's so much potential creativity.

Kazunori is what holds it back (along with other features, cars, in my opinion). I think his restrictive decisions have now emerged in the lime light when GT5 released. It's a shame.

"I think you are blind to the fact that the hand you hold is the hand that holds you down "- Everclear
 
Am I reading some of these responses correctly? You don't want an OPTION because of what people MIGHT do with it? How does this even make sense? Who cares how ugly people make their cars? The feature (if it ever comes out) is for you to enjoy and make the best of it. Do what you wish.

I can't even comprehend how this is a legit complaint about something. Like in real life, use your own custom "filter" and apply.
 
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