Skylines, overrated.

[SkylineObsession]

I don't beleive that the cop cars here use NOS at all. As far as i know, NOS is illegal in this country.

And Skylines are very badly represented in GT3.
I've driven Dad's R32 round a really tight turn at about 80km/h and instead of understeering off the road like it would in GT3, it turned like it was on rails and never even felt like it was going to cross the center line.

And Skylines sound MUCH better in real life.
They almost sound like V8's as they are really loud and rumbly.

 

[SiGNAL]

wow, i wanna live where you live!! thaz alot of skylines! i've only seen one in real life, a nice tuned blue one on the street one time. i was in awe.... skylines are very rare where i live, suburbs of chicago. so are rx-7's, hardly see them or Supras! no ferrari's, some porsche turbo's(theres one that i always see at blockbuster!!)

 

[SkylineObsession]

There's more than 20,000 Skylines in New Zealand.
Per head of population New Zealand is the second highest country in the world in terms of the amount of Nissan Skylines. (so i read/heard somewhere) After Japan of course.

 

[Duke]

Originally posted by Total_turbo
lol..they only lighten things up a bit but it should make the car not as heavy..plus ur saying that skyline is useless...that is because u don't know how to drive the damn car.!!!so if that is..then stfu..skyline is one of the most fastesr car in japan..and they can do more than u think..so if u talk **** about skyline..i will kick ur ass so badly...plus if u don't like.its that u can;t handle the speed..

What part of KNOCK IT OFF are you failing to understand?

You're not taking the hint from your fellow users. You're not taking the hint from multiple PMs recommendng that you shape up. Pretty soon I'm going to stop thinking you're just stupid and start thinking you're doing it on purpose.

In fact the only reason I didn't ban you as soon as I saw this post was that one of the other mods already told you that there was one chance left. Consider this it.

If anybody sees anything except kindness and courtesy out of our problem child here that is posted after about 6am GMT on the 29th, please PM me immediately or use the Report To Moderators button. The proper action will be taken immediately.

Is that clear enough for you, Total_turbo?

 

[under18carbon]

Originally posted by Mustang-man
There's more than 20,000 Skylines in New Zealand.
Per head of population New Zealand is the second highest country in the world in terms of the amount of Nissan Skylines. (so i read/heard somewhere) After Japan of course.

Thanks for the info Mustang-man 👍 I learn something new everyday I visit this website

 

[Cobraboy]

Originally posted by Mustang-man
And Skylines sound MUCH better in real life.
They almost sound like V8's as they are really loud and rumbly.

GT3's turbo hiss is too loud, which is why nearly every car doesnt sound the same as in real life.

I like the sound of a tuned Skyline, but the people who buy them and put just an exhaust on them make them sound stupid, and trust me, there are plenty of those idiots around where I live.

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Personally, I think that the Skyline is a poor racing car. It's great on the road, where all the trick bits help you, and there's not such an abundance of power. 300bhp really isn't that much you know. It's manageable on the roads, and that's good. In real life, it's a good car. I personally wouldn't have one, because (a) I think it's uglier than a really ugly thing, and (b) the suspension settings are too hard for UK roads.

In the game, however, it's lost. It's too heavy, which means that it needs 300m of braking, and that's something that takes a lot of people a lot of time to get used to. It's NOT an F1 car, so you can't brake at the last board with it. If you try, you'll plough straight on to the scene of the accident, and then you'll post a load of mince in the nearest GT board you can find saying "it's s***, Polyphony Digital are a bunch of b****** for not making my fave car the best ever" etc etc.

Except you'll fail to spell "Polyphony" correctly.

The trouble is that weight is the enemy of speed, and you have to understand this. A heavy car will accelerate slower, take longer to slow down, and will not be able to corner as fast. You need to know three things to back this up:

Acceleration = Force / weight (where force = the combination of engine power and tyre grip)

Cornering speed = square root of (Force x radius / weight), where force is the maximum grip of the tyres.

Momentum = weight x speed squared.

As you can see then, engine power plays a very small part in determining a car's performance, and it's completely realistic that a Lotus Motorsports Elise (aka Exige) will annihilate a Skyline on a course like Laguna Seca or Trial Mt, because it would do the same in real life, and until you've gone really fast in these sorts of cars in real life, you have no real understanding of this.

Sorry, but lightened or not, the Skyline is simply too heavy to be a realistic proposition on a race track, 1000bhp or not.

Oh, and the opinion on the car's looks is my opinion, so don't go trashing this reasoned post by saying that the Skyline is a looker. You might think so, I do not, the rest of the post is fact.

 

[Cobraboy]

Wow, we have a broad range of people here at gtp, simple minded people, then Giles.

 

[under18carbon]

Originally posted by GilesGuthrie
The trouble is that weight is the enemy of speed, and you have to understand this. A heavy car will accelerate slower, take longer to slow down, and will not be able to corner as fast. You need to know three things to back this up:

Acceleration = Force / weight (where force = the combination of engine power and tyre grip)

Cornering speed = square root of (Force x radius / weight), where force is the maximum grip of the tyres.

Momentum = weight x speed squared.

As you can see then, engine power plays a very small part in determining a car's performance, and it's completely realistic that a Lotus Motorsports Elise (aka Exige) will annihilate a Skyline on a course like Laguna Seca or Trial Mt, because it would do the same in real life, and until you've gone really fast in these sorts of cars in real life, you have no real understanding of this.

Wow. I learned alotta new things today . Thanks Giles
A very good reply BTW 👍

 

[nmg]

Skylines are nice but IMO overrated (in the game, that is--real life is a different issue as usual). I love driving my nearly stock R34 around Seattle (around 550 HP). It slides around the corners perfectly. I also love the rear tail lights and the front spoiler, but the overall design of the car is pretty ugly. It's a nice low-mid end car.

 

[gtracer9950]

Thats one of my better cars to use , i always spin out with the RX-7

 

[Hyperion]

skylines are such amazing cars, I dont understand how someone can't like them.

 

[Duke]

For exactly all the reasons that Giles Guthrie explained. I've figured out how to drive my Skylines, it's just not very enjoyable to me. I don't like having to accomodate the car so much - it should accomodate me. I don't think they're ugly, but I don't think they're particularly attractive, either.

The main reason that I am unimpressed is that they seem to be nothing more or less than a modern version of the classic American muscle car, just with a lot of gee-whiz gadgets thrown in to make them seem cooler. Yet some people act as if they are God's gift (or Japan's gift - same thing) to the automotive world.

But to each his own. Some people think Camrys are amazing, too.

 

[bondy_1625]

Originally posted by SiGNAL
wow, i wanna live where you live!! thaz alot of skylines! i've only seen one in real life, a nice tuned blue one on the street one time. i was in awe.... skylines are very rare where i live, suburbs of chicago. so are rx-7's, hardly see them or Supras! no ferrari's, some porsche turbo's(theres one that i always see at blockbuster!!)

i have never seen a real skyline ive seen 1 lambo diablo speeding into the distance! 1 rx-7 without a spoiler (dont look half as good) and a couple of porsche boxsters park down my road oh and i see supras occasianally oh and at my old school there is ahouse nearby with a ferrari 360 and a porsche 911 in the drive

 

[Cobraking]

lucky the best i've seen is a... lemme think i've seen a Porsche GT2 in downtown vancouver..and a Vanquish V12.. dont know how it got there.. buncha Sl55;s .

 

[12sec. Civic]

If your complaining of your car being too heavy. Do this.


Its not too heavy. It just isnt braking well. And it probably doesnt have the turn in it used to.



Take off most/all of the rear downforce. The Skyline has enough grip. To make it brake better, take off rear downforce so the weight is more easily transferred onto the front.


Also, set the rear camber to 0. It will help the back come around in turns, and it will give more grip under normal straight accel with that flat contact patch.


trust me. I used to hate Skylines, until I fiddled with mine a little. Do this and youll love 'em too!

 

[JDMTypeR]

Meh, in my opinion, Skylines are useless, they are too heavy, and worse of all the 4wd is like driving a truck full of rocks. When you over power them, they become even useless. I rather take a Rx-7 anyday.

The Skyline GT-R is one of da best super cars on dis planet!!! And it's highly upgradeable!!!!!!
DON’T MESS WIT DA SKYLINE GT-R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Duke]

Ummm, OK, whatever. Why bother waiting till after college to move to Japan?

 

[JDMTypeR]

Originally posted by neon_duke
Ummm, OK, whatever. Why bother waiting till after college to move to Japan?

I want to save enough money up after I get a job and I wont be able to speak Japanese well enough, in less than 2 years, to go to a Japanese college. This summer I will try to learn some, I want to find a software program that teaches me Japanese.

 

[ving]

skylines are a bit common out ere (sydney)...
we get heaps of good cars tho.
porsches, ferraris, lambos, vipers, supras, skylines, rx7 and 8s, nsx,... etc, etc, etc....

we are the lucky country

 

[JDMTypeR]

Originally posted by ving
skylines are a bit common out ere (sydney)...
we get heaps of good cars tho.
porsches, ferraris, lambos, vipers, supras, skylines, rx7 and 8s, nsx,... etc, etc, etc....

we are the lucky country

Sydney, Australia right? Doesn't your government censor every thing, even more then the u.s.a.? Like they wouldn't allow GTA3 to be sold there, right? It may be lucky for cars but it's unlucky for **** like that.
Is this **** true, I just heard it, I don't know it for a fact?

 

[Cobraboy]

They censored the hookers out of Vice City, thats about all I think.

 

[ving]

yup, thats it

 

[SkylineObsession]

You probably already knew this Giles, but back in the late 1980's and early 1990's the R32 Nissan Skyline GT-R totally dominated the (now) V8 Supercars. (was racing against Ford Seirras and Holden Commodores or something). Ford and Holden threw everything they could into their cars so they could start winning races again, but the Skyline was just too fast and no amount of upgrading the Holden especially, could give them the championship.

So in the end the race committee just banned the Skylines from racing.

 

[JDMTypeR]

Originally posted by Cobraboy
They censored the hookers out of Vice City, thats about all I think.

Originally posted by ving
yup, thats it

thats got to suck!

Originally posted by Mustang-man
You probably already knew this Giles, but back in the late 1980's and early 1990's the R32 Nissan Skyline GT-R totally dominated the (now) V8 Supercars. (was racing against Ford Seirras and Holden Commodores or something). Ford and Holden threw everything they could into their cars so they could start winning races again, but the Skyline was just too fast and no amount of upgrading the Holden especially, could give them the championship.

So in the end the race committee just banned the Skylines from racing.

The Skyline will rule all!
That's retarded how those stupid V8s couldn't compete wit da GT-R so they banned them!

 

[HRT_Maloo]

Originally posted by Mustang-man
I don't beleive that the cop cars here use NOS at all. As far as i know, NOS is illegal in this country.

And Skylines sound MUCH better in real life.
They almost sound like V8's as they are really loud and rumbly.

Yes
I was in town last Saturday night and the boy racers were ripping it up and down the popular road in town. There were 2 GTSt that I stood out from the others. One did this nice launch and it sounded awesome (not even redlining it) and this other one was just sitting at the lights at around 3000rpm
Polyphony did a good job matching the Skylines sound though

If I ever go Japanese for a car, a Skyline will be it

 

[Small_Fryz]

i see so many cool cars in brisbane australia. i go past 2 import car yards at least every 4 days. ooh so nice evrey think from imported box on wheels to supras in fast and furios colours skylines r32,33,34 gts 200sx 18sx 300zx rx7 silvias integras preludes i just wanna go there and look at tme. i even saw a corvette z28 the 1960 somting model thats in gt2. thats where i will be gettion my car from.

 

[Cano]

Originally posted by JDMTypeR
The Skyline GT-R is one of da best super cars on dis planet!!! And it's highly upgradeable!!!!!!
DON’T MESS WIT DA SKYLINE GT-R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just cant get why people cant get that we are talking about skylines in the game and not on the damned real life...

Cano

but oh well, another dude that thinks the skyline will beat an F1....

 

[under18carbon]

Originally posted by Cano
but oh well, another dude that thinks the skyline will beat an F1....

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Originally posted by Mustang-man
You probably already knew this Giles, but back in the late 1980's and early 1990's the R32 Nissan Skyline GT-R totally dominated the (now) V8 Supercars. (was racing against Ford Seirras and Holden Commodores or something). Ford and Holden threw everything they could into their cars so they could start winning races again, but the Skyline was just too fast and no amount of upgrading the Holden especially, could give them the championship.

So in the end the race committee just banned the Skylines from racing.

I did know that. It's quite interesting don't you think. I sometimes wonder (especially after seeing the V8s at the GP this month), whether that killed the V8 championship for foreign marques. I wonder how the championship would react to racing versions of the BMW 540, Audi A6 etc...