Smoking because of Tobacco livery

[Appie]

Would you smoke when you see tabacco liverys on the cars, because i find that very weird that thet can't have any tabacco liverys.

What do you think?

 

[daan]

I have seen every single F1 race since 1986. I have watched billboards for JPS, Marlboro, Camel, Barclays, West, Benson & Hedges, Lucky Strike/555, etc., etc. going past in front of my eyes. It was years before I knew that Camel and Barclays were cigarettes. I have seen the clever ways they have tried to get round bans in certain countries (East, Buzzin Hornets, Bitten & Hisses etc.) It has had no effect on me whatsoever.

I have never touched a cigarette, never mind smoked one.

 

[Touring Mars]

The first pack of cigarettes I ever bought were Marlboro's, pretty much because I was most familiar with their brand, presumably (and almost certainly) due to my exposure to their branding on McLaren F1 cars in the 1980's... However, I don't think that seeing tobacco adverts necessarily encouraged me to start smoking... I think nearly everyone I've ever met has atleast tried smoking, and most people don't like it and thus don't start it up as a habit. My first cigarette was a Silk Cut that my sister's friend gave me (we smoked a third of it each!), but I only started buying my own cigarettes (Marlboro) when I went to university and started going to pubs (and more significantly hanging out with smokers...) So tobacco advertising may well have influenced my choice of brand ("Look at me, I smoke Marlboro! No, I'm not Alain Prost but thanks for asking...") but it didn't influence me to start smoking...

One effect is that it certainly made me very aware of different cigarette brands, long before I was legally permitted to buy cigarettes myself... At the age of 10, I could probably have named more brands of cigarettes than I could breakfast cereals...

Another sport which has recently fallen foul of a ban on tobacco advertising is that fine athletic pursuit, darts. They were sponsored by Embassy (as was World Snooker as well), but strangely I've never been drawn towards that particular brand. However, that might have more to do with the fact that Embassys are rank - my friend Mark once smoked Embassy and was stopped in the street by a local tramp, who subsequently asked my friend for a fag. My mate said, "No problem" and produced the pack of Embassys, as which point the tramp said "Ach, I dinnae smoke Embassys!" in disgust, and walked off...

 

[Jim Prower]

Don't forget the recent departure of the Winston Cup, replaced by telephone company Nextel.

To tell the truth, the one tobacco ad I really, really get tired of seeing on race cars is the Marlboro livery. It was, at one time, everywhere, but the only current holdout is Penske IRL. and, since Penske is usually near the front, I tend to get a little tired of red-and-white.

Of course, there's also the beer sponsorships, which is kinda laughable: we're phasing out one kind of drug, only to have a bunch of another drug take it's place. well, i guess alcoholic drinks have really been advertising as long as the tobacco companies, but for some reason, we can ignore them while smokers are seeing less of their 200MPH billboards on the track. It's hilarity, especially since drinks have more of an immediate effect on your driving. "Don't drink and drive, but we sponsor this fast race car!"

I love it.

 

[daan]

The cigarette companies say its a brand awareness thing. They want to get people to change brands rather than to get new folk to start smoking. and if you believe that...

I was going to try and start smoking, but I just didn't have the willpower...

 

[Slick Rick]

The cigarette companies say its a brand awareness thing. They want to get people to change brands rather than to get new folk to start smoking. and if you believe that...

Yea I believe that. I dont smoke but if I was doing to start Id probably buy the brand I saw advertised in motorsport(Only if they were all priced the same and tasted the same) So maybe a die hard motorsport enthusiast who smokes could change their brand just because another company is advertised on their favorite car.
Thats believable imo.

I buy loctite superglue because they were sponsors of Mclaren.

 

[Blake]

It’s a little bit of a shame, tobacco has funded our favourite sport for decades. I hate the products tobacco companies produce, but I don’t think anyone here would have a problem with them advertising on F1 cars. The product is legal isn’t it?

Then again, we’re getting a new type of sponsor now, so it’s no big problem.

 

[Appie]

I have seen every single F1 race since 1986. I have watched billboards for JPS, Marlboro, Camel, Barclays, West, Benson & Hedges, Lucky Strike/555, etc., etc. going past in front of my eyes. It was years before I knew that Camel and Barclays were cigarettes. I have seen the clever ways they have tried to get round bans in certain countries (East, Buzzin Hornets, Bitten & Hisses etc.) It has had no effect on me whatsoever.

I have never touched a cigarette, never mind smoked one.

Same here Daan, i saw it all the time but never touched a cigarette and the liverys looked quite good on the car

 

[liam2maps]

I smoke Marlboro lights and 555. Trying to quit last year, everytime I saw Ferrari there was a temptation there as a reminder, but for F1 to lose tobacco sponsorships is a bit disappointing.

 

[Omnis]

Yeah, I just think it's brand awareness, like others have mentioned. I never thought to smoke, but I was always more familiar with Marlboro than, say, Winston, because I watched F1 instead of NASCAR.

 

[Small_Fryz]

Winston is a brand of tobacco?

Learn something every day

Shame it had to get changed to Nextel .

 

[zoxxy]

Winston is a brand of tobacco?

Learn something every day.

Ditto.

 

[Omnis]

Yeah, Winstons are made by RJReynolds. So are Camels and Kools. I should've said that I was more familiar with Camels than Winstons (as they're both under the same company), but Marlboro is the vast cigarette mega-giant (made by Philip Morris).

 

[daan]

I only found out Davidoff were cigarettes when I saw they changed "Enjoy a Davidoff" to "Enjoy a day off"

 

[MustangSVT]

I've become aware of the brands around because of F1, such as Lucky Strike, 555, Marlboro, Camel, Mild Seven, West, Winston, Winfield, so on and so forth.

I tried smoking once (when I was 12) and that was Lucky Strike (that's the only thing I had access to Lol) and that was enough for me, I quit after having 2 cigarettes. So F1 hasn't influenced me to smoke at all. I actually like the tobacco liveries, the way it makes the colour of the whole car. I specifically liked the 555 livery BAR Honda ran at China GP and the Rothmans livery of the 90s Williams. But I've never bought any of these, like I said only smoked twice and that was enough for me.

I think government/people take the whole tobacco advertising too far. Sure too much tobacco advertising (say if we had it on buses, TV and such) is a bit too much, but to ban them from sponsoring motorsport is excessive IMO. At the same time, they have liquor companies like Johnnie Walker and Bud and Forsberg sponsor. What's so different about that. How are alcohol companies better than tobacco companies? At Australian GP, I see Forsberg ads everywhere when it's on TV.

My main opinion is that the whole tobacco thing in general (at least my in country in Canada) is a bit too much with warnings everywhere on the cigarette packs and now they've banned smoking from bars and the motorsport sponsorship thing. If people want to smoke let them and I think they will find out the consequences themselves. By banning smoking so much (from bars, gotta be 18 to smoke and so on) it encourages younger people or whoever to try it out because it's "illegal" (in case of teenagers) and in the case of older people, they will quit if they want to, I don't think the fact it says all those warnings on the pack makes a difference to them and so on.

 

[Slick Rick]

I only found out Davidoff were cigarettes when I saw they changed "Enjoy a Davidoff" to "Enjoy a day off"

That was like the 'Benson Hedges' to 'Be on edge' with the Jordan team.

 

[liam2maps]

Does honda try to do the "Be Lucky, Strike Now" thing. I've seen a lot of cigarette parodies in motorsport.

 

[iceburns288]

I only found out Davidoff were cigarettes when I saw they changed "Enjoy a Davidoff" to "Enjoy a day off"

I didn't know that until now! Thought it was vodka.