SNAIL - Endurance Series (Archive)

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Enjoyed last night. @stelephant you were right on me and I had just put on harder tires to run out the last of the time and that's when my girlfriend decided to comment that I wasn't doing very well. Mini-meltdown ensued and I spun. Then you did! Then my aero was shot and I couldn't catch you. Good racing.


Did anyone else notice that the game wasn't rendering the front grill of people coming up behind you in your rear view (I had plenty of that)? It was a bit distracting to see the front grill/bumper change from polygon to detailed, back and forth. I'm on ps4 pro and have a good signal. Maybe it's just because of the big field and the long duration. The lap history was also jacked up for me. Every sector was my best sector for the entire race. It kept resetting. Whatevs. Good racing everyone.
 
Good racing everyone.
@BradESPN it's been requested that you link these files to the main post so they're easier to find.

On the points total, I've added in ranks, but I'm only ranking drivers who are eligible for the championship.
All other drivers are still eligible to choose a track though.

@Neutty you are selecting a track this week, please try and have your decision by Friday @6pm EST (I guess we'll go with this date/time).

Tough combo this week, that hairpin was a killer.

Please note the following drivers have already missed 2 races and if you miss a 3rd race you will be demoted to "interested driver"
@SAMHAIN85 @FREEREVN
 

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Enjoyed last night. @stelephant you were right on me and I had just put on harder tires to run out the last of the time and that's when my girlfriend decided to comment that I wasn't doing very well. Mini-meltdown ensued and I spun. Then you did! Then my aero was shot and I couldn't catch you. Good racing.


Did anyone else notice that the game wasn't rendering the front grill of people coming up behind you in your rear view (I had plenty of that)? It was a bit distracting to see the front grill/bumper change from polygon to detailed, back and forth. I'm on ps4 pro and have a good signal. Maybe it's just because of the big field and the long duration. The lap history was also jacked up for me. Every sector was my best sector for the entire race. It kept resetting. Whatevs. Good racing everyone.
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It's hard for people that don't play to understand how fast these guys we are chasing are, all they see is our position or the gap to the leader.
 
Tecticles
It's hard for people that don't play to understand how fast these guys we are chasing are, all they see is our position or the gap to the leader.
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It took my wife awhile to understand that this wasn't Mario Kart and I can't just hold A and go as fast as everyone else.
Tell your girlfriend you're only XX seconds slower per 2 minute lap, but after 40 laps that adds up.
 
My wife thinks this is a video game.
I was shocked and felt violated, I responded that this is a simulator not a game. She laughed I laughed she got mad cause I was laughing and walked away. (Pregnancy hormones)
She also calls anime cartoons! :banghead:
 
Neutty
My wife thinks this is a video game.
I was shocked and felt violated, I responded that this is a simulator not a game. She laughed I laughed she got mad cause I was laughing and walked away. (Pregnancy hormones)
She also calls anime cartoons! :banghead:
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Oh man, where to start :lol:
 
Well I have to say that I'm very disappointed in the way things went down last night! It's been a long time since I've been called out on the chat after a race, for causing an incident, when in actual fact the one calling me out caused it!:banghead:
 
Last night I was battling my mind more than anyone on track. For some reason I could not for the life of me take that hairpin turn like normal. It was a total mental block and the longer the race went the more I dreaded approaching that friggin turn. Lap after lap my confidence sunk. I'm surprised I didnt have nightmares about it when I went to bed.

I gave up trying to take it at a normal speed and said to hell with it, I'm just going to pussyfoot around it. I'm willing to bet I took that turn on average slower than anyone all race.



That was my worst wipeout there, and I had 2 or 3 other close calls.

Needless to say I got lucky getting the win. Great racing everyone. Too bad we had to turn a few people away, but in a sense its a good thing. This series is really starting to take off. Hopefully we can have a system in place to handle all the entries in the future so everyone can participate. But the sooner you post in the thread you're interested in racing, the better.

Looking forward to the next combo Neutty gets to choose
 
It looked like the top fast guys were pitting a lot more than I thought. I guess it's still quicker to stay on RM or RS and pit more huh?
 
DublDee
Well I have to say that I'm very disappointed in the way things went down last night! It's been a long time since I've been called out on the chat after a race, for causing an incident, when in actual fact the one calling me out caused it!:banghead:
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@keepitsteady
On the mic last night after the races speedcenter watched the replay and felt super bad about how it went down as well. He claimed it was his fault after you left.
 
DublDee
Well I have to say that I'm very disappointed in the way things went down last night! It's been a long time since I've been called out on the chat after a race, for causing an incident, when in actual fact the one calling me out caused it!:banghead:
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Just curious what was your pit strategy? You kept coming out ahead of me but I was doing long stints. It was fun trying to increase pase when I saw you pitted to close the delta but never getting it.
 
Neutty
@keepitsteady
On the mic last night after the races speedcenter watched the replay and felt super bad about how it went down as well. He claimed it was his fault after you left.
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That's good, and I appreciate you letting me know, however, I'm really not concerned with his acknowledgement, as I knew full well who's fault it was! I am far more concerned that prior to reviewing it he went ahead called me out like that, then reviewed it and realized it was his mistake!
 
DesertPenguin
Just curious what was your pit strategy? You kept coming out ahead of me but I was doing long stints. It was fun trying to increase pase when I saw you pitted to close the delta but never getting it.
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Okay, get your pen ready DP:
1) Nunna ur bizniss, Lol

I can't say, because I think it's a great strategy, but haven't been able to take advantage of it. Once I do, I'll let ya know if it worked, and at that point I'll know if I want to share it with you or not.:cheers:
Edit: with all the stiff competition, I'm only hoping for a top 5 finish.
 
That mess couldve been avoided if it wernt for the stupid pit exit. It spits you out potentially on the racing line, and with T1 entry being such a high speed, its just a disaster waiting to happen. Itd make more sense to have an extended pit lane go around T1 and exit after T2.

Unfortunate to see for all parties involved.
 
DublDee
Okay, get your pen ready DP:
1) Nunna ur bizniss, Lol

I can't say, because I think it's a great strategy, but haven't been able to take advantage of it. Once I do, I'll let ya know if it worked, and at that point I'll know if I want to share it with you or not.:cheers:
Edit: with all the stiff competition, I'm only hoping for a top 5 finish.
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HA thanks. Reminds me of a time I was watching my favorite YouTube streamers play a fighting game and one of them discovered a new mechanic before the others and it made him dominate. When they asked what it was he kept stalling until he got the final kill and then instantly said what it was.
 
thracerviewr
Only if you can put in the crazy fast lap times as well.
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I'm not sure this applies as much as you think it does.

For example, I can comfortably run a 1:55/1:56 on RH, not sure what my times would be once the tires wear.
By the time I had settled in, I was running mid 1:52's and 1:53's once my tires started to wear on RS.

It takes 10 seconds to pit and put no fuel in, just take new tires - note this doesn't mean you lose 10 seconds on track, you lose more like 6-7 due to the nature of traveling a bit of distance in the pit lane, and when you come out of pit lane there is a turn right there so any speed from not pitting is basically negated.

So the strategy in essence on tracks with shorter pits is to run with faster tires, and take 2 sets of tires per tank of fuel.

For the most part people were taking about 3 seconds off their times when switching to RS - this is regardless of if you drive a 1:58 with RH, you'll still drive roughly 3 seconds faster in RS as the car just has an increased amount of grip and exit speed.

From our 4 weeks of regular season and 4 weeks of pre-season - from what I've discovered is running with soft tires and pitting more often has generally been faster than trying to last it out on harder tires. This could be because we've usually had shorter pits and haven't done a circuit like Interlagos yet.
Could also be because passing for the most part is relatively easy on the tracks we've been running so there hasn't been a large advantage of track position, this is magnified because passing somebody who's on RH while you're on RS is even easier.

The one thing you have to watch out for is that the RS tires fall off drastically pretty quick, let's say you do 5 laps on RS, I had to adjust my driving style on laps 4/5 to have less trail braking because my tires didn't have the grip to drive like that anymore.

That being said, generally speaking if you are on a RS strategy you are driving faster, so the risk of accidents are magnified, RH and conserving strategies are typically more relaxed - that being said if you do get damage on a RH strategy it could really screw you up as you pit half as often as a RS driver.
 
Sean Renon
I'm not sure this applies as much as you think it does.

For example, I can comfortably run a 1:55/1:56 on RH, not sure what my times would be once the tires wear.
By the time I had settled in, I was running mid 1:52's and 1:53's once my tires started to wear on RS.

It takes 10 seconds to pit and put no fuel in, just take new tires - note this doesn't mean you lose 10 seconds on track, you lose more like 6-7 due to the nature of traveling a bit of distance in the pit lane, and when you come out of pit lane there is a turn right there so any speed from not pitting is basically negated.

So the strategy in essence on tracks with shorter pits is to run with faster tires, and take 2 sets of tires per tank of fuel.

For the most part people were taking about 3 seconds off their times when switching to RS - this is regardless of if you drive a 1:58 with RH, you'll still drive roughly 3 seconds faster in RS as the car just has an increased amount of grip and exit speed.

From our 4 weeks of regular season and 4 weeks of pre-season - from what I've discovered is running with soft tires and pitting more often has generally been faster than trying to last it out on harder tires. This could be because we've usually had shorter pits and haven't done a circuit like Interlagos yet.
Could also be because passing for the most part is relatively easy on the tracks we've been running so there hasn't been a large advantage of track position, this is magnified because passing somebody who's on RH while you're on RS is even easier.

The one thing you have to watch out for is that the RS tires fall off drastically pretty quick, let's say you do 5 laps on RS, I had to adjust my driving style on laps 4/5 to have less trail braking because my tires didn't have the grip to drive like that anymore.

That being said, generally speaking if you are on a RS strategy you are driving faster, so the risk of accidents are magnified, RH and conserving strategies are typically more relaxed - that being said if you do get damage on a RH strategy it could really screw you up as you pit half as often as a RS driver.
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Hey thanks for the write up! This was my first endurance race and I was wondering about different strategies. I'll give this a try.
 
Interesting read, thanks for that. When I tried a stint on RM tires I felt like I had less grip (and therefore less confidence to push) than with RH tires. I was short shifting to extend the fuel a few laps but even still the RH tires hit the "cliff" before fuel ran out so I had to pit.
 
SAMHAIN85
Too bad we had to turn a few people away, but in a sense its a good thing. This series is really starting to take off. Hopefully we can have a system in place to handle all the entries in the future so everyone can participate. But the sooner you post in the thread you're interested in racing, the better.
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Yeah, I felt increasingly bad about having to turn away @Raw10_2u, @Hanable, and @MSgtGunny throughout the race, but I'm still pretty confident that we made the right decision. Once we can consistently get to needing two lobbies, this problem will go away (until we need three...).

For example, say we had 18 drivers signup (either automatically by being Official/Provisional, or by posting here for the Interested drivers). I could post lobby assignments here (with all Official drivers in the same lobby, guaranteed), and then we'd have two lobbies with 7 open spots each for the rando SNAILs to join in. I don't want to preemptively split everyone up, because having two lobbies of 8 is much worse than one lobby of 16.

Long story short, if people are able to post in this thread before 5 PM Eastern on race day, we do have a plan in place. Handling it on the fly 5 minutes before the race starts is where it gets a little tricky. I'll make the deadline clear in the OP.
 
DesertPenguin
Interesting read, thanks for that. When I tried a stint on RM tires I felt like I had less grip (and therefore less confidence to push) than with RH tires. I was short shifting to extend the fuel a few laps but even still the RH tires hit the "cliff" before fuel ran out so I had to pit.
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That was my strategy. I short shifted the entire race and ran hard tires (except for my final mini stint). I only pitted when the tank was empty though. I would say 4-5 laps before my fuel was gone I would really start to feel a big difference in the grip of my tires. That's when I would start to drive a bit more conservatively but my lap times were still OK.
 
That's the thing with making a series. People have to be organized in their communication. It's more than just being serious to the commitment of racing.

thracerviewr
That was my strategy. I short shifted the entire race and ran hard tires (except for my final mini stint). I only pitted when the tank was empty though. I would say 4-5 laps before my fuel was gone I would really start to feel a big difference in the grip of my tires. That's when I would start to drive a bit more conservatively but my lap times were still OK.
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Same but I noticed myself slipping too much and losing time so I figured it was bet to dip into the pits before I lose more time just trying to keep pace.
 
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