So are all of the 800+ cars in GTPSP, not going to be included in GT5?

[shenfrey]

If so, man, thats alot of extra cars lol

 

[Dave A]

Some cars we've seen are in both games but we don't know if some every car in GT PSP will be in GT5 or not. There's no official car list for GT5 and I wouldn't expect one for quite a while.

 

[Heath_1]

If you look at the official car list thread (page 1) that will give you some info, there's been around 117 or so confirmed at my last count. some from GT4, some from GTPSP and some if not all from GT5P. Plus it's been confirmed there will be 1,000 vehicles (or there about). So I wouldn't worry about cars being excluded.

 

[lildomplaya]

Well, we need space for the newer cars than having a GT4 cars list.

 

[astrosdude91]

Well I seem to recall Kazzy saying that all the GTPSP cars would be included in GT5. Maybe I'm not remembering right.

 

[DragoonRaven]

Well I seem to recall Kazzy saying that all the GTPSP cars would be included in GT5. Maybe I'm not remembering right.

If that's true, that's terrible for two reasons.

1: The suspense of the car list is ruined.
2: It's Gran Turismo 4's car list, which was actually pretty awful.

 

[supersquirrel]

not 20 skylines

 

[Heath_1]

More Skylines = Better game.

 

[Dave A]

Well I seem to recall Kazzy saying that all the GTPSP cars would be included in GT5. Maybe I'm not remembering right.

You're not remembering right. He did say that cars will be transferable from GT PSP to GT5, but that comment doesn't mean every car will be transferrable just that the option is there to transfer cars that are in both games. It miht be that every car in GT PSP is in GT5 and then a couple of hundered more, but we only know the cars we have seen and that Kaz has specifically mentioned at this point.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

I wouldn't worry so much about the GT PSP to GT5 car issue. It'll resolve itself once the release is more imminent.

 

[rofajole]

No way. I think PD is going to remove a lot of the Skyline and Miata's from the GTPSP version and also remove the Infiniti/Nissan cars, which are literally the same exact thing with different names. Ohh and they better not put variations of the Ford GT and call them "different" simply because one's got a stripe and another doesn't. No, I think for GT5, the car list would be much more refreshed with a lot of concept cars and newly released cars from 2009 above. But I don't know, we'll have to wait for the Japanese copy of the game to hit the stores, and we'll find out then

 

[AleksandarSRB]

I hope for road McLaren F1 and F1 LM!!!!!!! and GTR from GT4...

 

[finnracer]

i would imagne/hope that they scale down the skylines/evos/imprezas/mx-5s/rx7s etc so they just include a few key models i.e. 1st gen mx5- 1.6, 1.8 skyline gtr r34, vspec, vspec2 nurburg etc etc...

 

[Custer85]

Kazunori Yamauchi once said, that all the cars in GT PSP were modelled with the standards of GT5 in mind and would basicly be the same models, even with interiors, but scaled down to fit onto an umd, or to be small enough to be downloaded properly.

Since PD is aiming for 1000 cars, we can expect to see 170 new cars in GT5 and this leaves enough room for speculation. Those 170 cars include the rally cars from WRC and race cars from NASCAR, but there are many unknown cars remaining.

I think all the cars from GT PSP will be included in GT5. Kaz allways described GT as some kind of museum for cars and so i dont think they will remove cars from the game, especially no japanese cars, since PD comes from Japan. They develop the game and i guess everyone over at PD would like to see his car included in GT5, no matter how much of a difference his version of the car is to the stock version, or the premium model. If i would be making a racing game, i would try to add every Audi and BMW under the sun, so i can understand why they include so many different versions of basicly the same car.

 

[Dave A]

That's not really true, what he said was open to interpretation and the logical conclusion from what he said was that the newly modelled cars (cars like the Veyron and ZR1) were modelled for GT5 and then scaled back to work in GT PSP. That also explains why it's so blatantly obvious that some cars are not as good quality as others in the game. Certain cars are clearly GT4 models scaled for the PSP, they are identical to the GT4 models inclusing the mistakes. So as I said, the logical explenation to why the new cars to the series look better than the rest and also to why cars featurd in GT4 are identical in GT PSP right down to texure and modelling mistakes is that the cars also in GT4 are simply models ported from GT4 and the new additions are newly modelled.

 

[Fruitcake]

If that's true, that's terrible for two reasons.

2: It's Gran Turismo 4's car list, which was actually pretty awful.

Pretty awful?

 

[reaperman]

The gtpsp car list is terrible, and I don't want those counting against the gt5 car count. If I want to drive a used car from 98-2004, I'll go down the street and just buy one.

 

[Gids]

The gtpsp car list is terrible, and I don't want those counting against the gt5 car count. If I want to drive a used car from 98-2004, I'll go down the street and just buy one.

900+ cars after '04 is going to be tough to do. But I would agree...I am tired of so many MX-5s, Skylines, GTOs, etc, etc

 

[Northstar]

The gtpsp car list is terrible, and I don't want those counting against the gt5 car count. If I want to drive a used car from 98-2004, I'll go down the street and just buy one.

If you only want new cars play NFS.

 

[Ollie1066]

I would be very, very dissapointed if GT5 car list included all the GTPSP cars because that means we may see no updated Audis, Mercedes and all the other large manufacturers. However, if I'm right, in one of the SLS video we see a current gen C-Class, which could mean new list.

 

[Gids]

Pure speculation here. Is it possible that some of the cars from GTPSP are transferable to GT5 but not able to be purchased in GT5. In doing so, this may not count against the car total in GT5 but force you to get GTPSP if you wanted some of the older cars.

Yes I know very unlikely and I am more than likely completely wrong but just throwing out an idea.

 

[DragoonRaven]

Pretty awful?

Yes, it was. Insane bias towards Japanese cars, hundreds of Lancer Evolutions, Nissan Skylines, crappy kei-cars and 80's econoboxes that nobody will ever seriously use. Hugely important eras in motorsport almost totally unrepresented.

If I personally were to create a game with as many vehicles as GT4, you can bet your bottom dollar it would have a vastly more robust car list.

 

[Fruitcake]

So show me a game with a better/larger list? (excluding DLC)

Even if you don't count all the Skyline, Lancer etc etc versions it's still the best list to appear in a racing game ever


(and don't forget, if PD was a French company imagine all the Renault/Peugeot/Citroen versions in the game )

 

[Custer85]

Yes, it was. Insane bias towards Japanese cars, hundreds of Lancer Evolutions, Nissan Skylines, crappy kei-cars and 80's econoboxes that nobody will ever seriously use. Hugely important eras in motorsport almost totally unrepresented.

If I personally were to create a game with as many vehicles as GT4, you can bet your bottom dollar it would have a vastly more robust car list.

GT 4 has more manufacturers and more cars, than any other game on the market! The variety is unrivaled and they got some very cool cars, even though some are still missing. There are many cars in GT4 that no other game ever featured until then, like the Mercedes 190 Evolution DTM, Sauber Mercedes, DeLorean, Lister Storm, Tommy Kaira ZZ, Alfa 155 DTM Touring Car, Opel Calibra Touring Car, Alpine (both cars), Auto Union V16, Buick GNX, Callaway C12, Chaparral 2 (D and J), Camaro IROC-Z Concept, Cizeta Moroder V16T, Ginetta G4, Hommel Berlinetta, Audi Quattro (road car) and the list goes on and on and on.
(i think GT4 even was the first game to ever feature the Pagani Zonda, but i could be wrong here)

One of the things that i really really loved about GT4 was that they had some of the old Group B rally cars! I was missing the rally version of the audi Quattro, but they had the road Car!

GT4s carlist was impressive, even if you leave out all the japanese cars, its still a good list. GT4 was lacking some american muscle cars from the 60s and 70s and some european sportscars from the 70s and 80s, but other than that there were many many good cars in it.

I loved GT4 and i was never bored because of the cars in the game, even less sporty, cheap used cars can be modified to make a formidable race car. Thats whats fun about GT, buy an old used car and fight against much junger cars and overtake them.

@Dave A:
Ok, i guess i missunderstood it then. English is not my first language (i guess it shows) and so some things might be lost in translation here

 

[Strittan]

I hope not, because I don't want 8 R34 Skylines to be counted as 8 different cars...

 

[Fredde_swe]

I think the car list in Gran turismo 4 was really good, but I don't wanna see the same list + 150 new cars in GT5. The only special about some of the cars in GT4 was that they were new when GT4 came. Today, they aren't new, or classical, they are just old.

So I hope that they take away some of the cars from the car list in GT4

 

[Fruitcake]

@Custer85

Nice piece of text 👍

 

[DragoonRaven]

So show me a game with a better/larger list? (excluding DLC)

Even if you don't count all the Skyline, Lancer etc etc versions it's still the best list to appear in a racing game ever

Because quantity equals quality, am I right?

GT4 had probably right around a hundred cars that were actually worth anyone's time. What I'm more irate about is not necessarily the inclusion of all of the crap cars - it was the omission of great ones. Just in one instance, no E30 M3 - probably the most successful road racing car ever? This doesn't even include the marques with decades of successful racing history that are represented by a meager half-dozen vehicles or less (Jaguar, Aston Martin, Holden), or none at all (Porsche, just to name one of many).

As an example, I believe NFS: Shift has something in the range of 60-70 cars. However, it's a great list (although biased towards new or very recent cars) - I can see myself using every car in the game with only a couple exceptions, and using those cars more than just the one time they might be needed for a one-make event.

 

[AvanGard]

I hope not, because I don't want 8 R34 Skylines to be counted as 8 different cars...

Yeah, and when you cut the list down to just car models the 800 turns into 400.

I think the car list in Gran turismo 4 was really good, but I don't wanna see the same list + 150 new cars in GT5. The only special about some of the cars in GT4 was that they were new when GT4 came. Today, they aren't new, or classical, they are just old.

So I hope that they take away some of the cars from the car list in GT4

We all hope for that

 

[Dave A]

Because quantity equals quality, am I right?

GT4 had probably right around a hundred cars that were actually worth anyone's time.

That's subjective, some people just want to get to the supercars as fast as they can, others enjoy the slower cars and other like cars inbetween. Ideally a person would be able to enjoy them all, and some people can, but not everyone. GT4's car list caters to a far broader audience than any other game I've experienced and there are far more than 100 cars in GT4 that I considered worth my time.

What I'm more irate about is not necessarily the inclusion of all of the crap cars - it was the omission of great ones.Just in one instance, no E30 M3 - probably the most successful road racing car ever? This doesn't even include the marques with decades of successful racing history that are represented by a meager half-dozen vehicles or less (Jaguar, Aston Martin, Holden), or none at all (Porsche, just to name one of many).

Including these cars would have been great, certainly, but there are usually reasons that an obviouse car is excluded when the brand is represented. Besides, there will always be great cars and cars that someone somewhere really wanted to be in that don't make it for one reason or another. It's pointless arguing "where's xxxx a car" when you have over 700 others to pick from.

As an example, I believe NFS: Shift has something in the range of 60-70 cars. However, it's a great list (although biased towards new or very recent cars) - I can see myself using every car in the game with only a couple exceptions, and using those cars more than just the one time they might be needed for a one-make event.

Great, NFS:Shift did have a good car list, butat the same time some of the cars felt out of place. Why? Because car's like the KPECG Skyline had no natural rivals to race against. I found far more than 70 cars that I really looked forward to driving in GT4.

Yeah, and when you cut the list down to just car models the 800 turns into 400.

Note even close, it's far more than 400. Besides, you make it sound like 400 unique cars is a small number, that's still stupidly high.

We all hope for that

Why hope to loose cars? I don't get this mentality. Rather than wish Car a model B wasn't in the game why not wish it was there along with other cars? Disk space is not the issue, time isn't a big issue when car variations are concerned. The real issue is licensing and cost. Taking away the R34 GT-R V-Spec II will not provide room for the E30 M3. Either the E30 M3 has been licensed and included, or it has not.