Q: If you evaluate all these points how well does GT5 simulate racing?
A: Well if you want all of that stuff then go play one of the SimBin games.
So now we've gone from the common retort of "If you want some arcade racer with blah blah features, go buy product X" to "If you want properly simulated racing with blah blah features, go buy product Y".
The fact that we've gotten to the point that the argument for seemingly everything is now "go buy another companies product" is exactly why PD and Sony have comunicated more in the last 10 months about GT5's future than they have in the five years prior, and have made a definite effort to respond dirrectly to complaints. Where before there was hype, now there is substance, even two way comunication to an extent, even if it's still not at the level that some would want.
To some, continued discussion may be beating a dead horse, but to Sony/PD it's obviously been a tool of market research and a source of motivation to demonstrate that they are listening to constructive opinions, wishies, and/or mindless complaints, depending on individual perspective as to which is which.
Do we need to rehash the same silly is it a driving game, is it a racing game, is it a car museum, is it a review mirror decoration for your Yugo arguments? Probably not. But the underlying topics that often lead to the aforemention silliness are often very valid. Just because some people have to turn it into silly BS every time, untill a thread is reduced to worthless arguments about things like who's idea of the game is more correct than anothers, doesn't make the underlining debate moot. Continueing to assault such discussions by turning them to debates of purely personal opinions of things like personal notions of Kaz's vision or what GT is ment to be, often making use of talking points not even really having any true bearring to the base disscussions in the process, maintaining as if said uttered opinions automatically quallify as inarguable fact, and doing so has a means to try and defeat any attempt at other's constructive criticisms amongst themselves, now thats a dead horse that gets beat waaaaaay past the point of pointless. Fact is, PD is listening, Sony is watching, debates will continue as long has people still get the feeling that they are being heard. The point of doing so is self evident in that regards.
