"Standards" the good, the bad and the ugly

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I don't think it can be worse than this. Those are obvious PS2 graphics

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Castrol96
In 480p we couldn't see the blurry curves and textures, but now it looks like a import from PS1!, and why can they simply fix the textures?
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It isn't from PS1, look post #1503

And yes, its ridiculous that they still didn't improve it considering how bad it looks :boggled:
 
NixxxoN
It isn't from PS1, look post #1503
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Read carefully I said, 'it looks like a import from PS1!' :)

And I know it's so simple to improve the car, but there seems to be some collaboration with Nissan, improving and remodeling there cars the most.
 
Hyland
I don't remember GT4 looking nowhere near that bad. If anything, it looks more on a par with GT PSP.

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Haha, I still have a working PS2 and trust me, GT4 looks horrible for today's standards and looks horrible compared to GT5/GT6. The thing is, back then it looked good in Small Definition tube televisions. :D
 
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Are these supposed to be the same car?
Supposed to be different?
All I see is 1pp and 2kg, I have a hard time believing it's not the same car, and that's how terrible the standard rendering is/was.
 
Thanks for the comparisons Mikhail, these look so much better. You are one of the best contributors to GTPlanet.

One thing I always asked myself, though: What significance has the EXA Canopy to the motoring world? Does anybody know? (Other than looking quite strange).
 
CSLACR
Are these supposed to be the same car?
Supposed to be different?
All I see is 1pp and 2kg, I have a hard time believing it's not the same car, and that's how terrible the standard rendering is/was.
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The 'R' version has different front bumper, possibly rear I'm not sure. We do only need one version though.
 
Good job @Mikhail K.
I agree too that there is need for a common definition for these cars that have clearly been improved since GT5, but have varying quality (from just above GT4 standards, to almost Premium level). It looks like some users don't like them to be called "semi-premium".

In the list I posted a few pages back, I listed all cars that looked clearly, objectively improved in a way or another since their appearance in GT5.
The minimum requirement to define a car as "objectively improved" was looking if 3d panel gaps were added. No Standard car in GT5 had them. These are also easily recognizable in the dealership/garage view in GT6.

Unless one checks out every Standard car from GT5 and GT6 back-to-back, defining the improved ones only by general appearance ("It looks good? Then it must be a semi-premium!") is an error-prone, subjective process. There were many deceivingly good-looking Standard cars in GT5.
 
The main difference that I'm noticing is that they've modeled more parts. When they used to just make headlights from textures for example, they looked crappy. Overall, well done to PD. But they really need to fix some up (read few posts above.)
 
CSLACR
Are these supposed to be the same car?
Supposed to be different?
All I see is 1pp and 2kg, I have a hard time believing it's not the same car, and that's how terrible the standard rendering is/was.
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The one on the right (R) was a purpose built racer, that had a number of modification, weight reduction, suspension changes etc., the one on the left was sold through dealerships, I believe all of them for that year where painted white with blue stripes. The following year 66' the Hertz cars came out with different colors.
 
For clarity, here's again my list of GT6 Standard cars that "look better than GT5 Standard cars":

Alpine A110 1600S '73
Aston Martin DB7 Vantage Coupe '00
Aston Martin DB9 Coupe '03
Aston Martin V8 Vantage '99
Audi S4 '98
Blitz ER34 D1 SPEC '04
Buick Special
Caterham Fireblade
Chevrolet Camaro SS '00
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Coupe '97
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C2) Race Car '63
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5) '00
Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (C4) '90
Citroen 2CV Type A '54
Daihatsu Cuore TR-XX Avanzato R '97
Daihatsu MIRA TR-XX Avanzato R '97
Dodge Charger 440 R/T '70
Ford Focus Rally car '99 (only seams)
Ford Focus RS '02 (only seams)
Ford Focus ST170 '03 (only seams)
Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R '00
Ford RS200 '84
Ford RS200 Rally Car '85
Gran Turismo Formula Gran Turismo
Holden Commodore SS '04
Honda ACCORD Coupe EX '03
Honda CR-X del Sol SiR '92
Honda FIT W '01
Honda JAZZ 1.4 DSi SE Sport '01
Honda PRELUDE Si VTEC '91
Hyundai Coupe FX '01 (but NOT the Hyundai Tiburon/Tuscani)
Isuzu PIAZZA XE '81
Jaguar XJ220 '92
Jaguar XJ220 LM Race Car
Lexus SC 430 (EU) '01
Lexus SC 430 (US) '01
Mazda efini RX-7 Type R (FD) '93
Mazda efini RX-7 Type R-S (FD) '95
Mazda efini RX-7 Type RS (FD) '96
Mazda efini RX-7 Type RZ (FD) '92
Mazda efini RX-7 Type RZ (FD) '93
Mazda efini RX-7 Type RZ (FD) '95
Mazda efini RX-7 Type RZ (FD) '96
Mazda Eunos Roadster J-Limited II (NA) '93
Mazda Eunos Roadster SR-Limited (NA) '97
Mazda Eunos Roadster S-Special Type I (NA) '95
Mazda Eunos Roadster V-Special Type II (NA) '93
Mazda Eunos Roadster VR-Limited (NA) '95
Mazda MX-5 (NA) '89
Mazda MX-5 VR-Limited (NA, J) '95
Mazda MX-5 V-Special Type II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 Miata (NA) '89
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited (NA, J) '91
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 Miata SR-Limited (NA, J) '97
Mazda MX-5 Miata V-Special Type II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 Miata VR-Limited (NA) '95
Mazda MX-5 J-Limited (NA, J) '91
Mazda MX-5 J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 S-Special Type I (NA, J) '95
Mazda RX-7 LM Race Car
Mazda RX-7 Type R (FD, J) '91
Mazda RX-7 Type R (FD, J) '93
Mazda RX-7 Type R Bathurst R (FD) '01
Mazda RX-7 Type R-S (FD, J) '95
Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD, J) '96
Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD, J) '97
Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD) '00
Mazda RX-7 Type RS-R (FD, J) '97
Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '92
Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '93
Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '95
Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '96
Mercedes-Benz CL 600 '00
Mercedes-Benz CLK Touring Car '00
Mercedes-Benz SLK 230 Kompressor '98
Mitsubishi 3000GT MR (J) '95
Mitsubishi 3000GT MR (J) '98
Mitsubishi 3000GT SL (J) '95
Mitsubishi 3000GT SL (J) '96
Mitsubishi 3000GT SL (J) '98
Mitsubishi 3000GT SR (J) '95
Mitsubishi 3000GT SR (J) '96
Mitsubishi 3000GT SR (J) '98
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 (J) '98
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Turbo (J) '95
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Turbo (J) '96
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Turbo (J) '98
Mitsubishi COLT 1.5 Sport X Version '02
Mitsubishi ECLIPSE Spyder GTS '03
Mitsubishi FTO GR '94
Mitsubishi FTO GR '97
Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R '97
Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R '99
Mitsubishi FTO GPX '94
Mitsubishi FTO GPX '97
Mitsubishi FTO GPX '99
Mitsubishi FTO GT '94
Mitsubishi GTO SR '95
Mitsubishi GTO SR '96
Mitsubishi GTO SR '98
Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo '95
Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo '96
Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo '98
Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo MR '95
Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo MR '98
Mitsubishi MINICA DANGAN ZZ '89
NISMO 400R '96
Nissan 240RS Rally Car '85
Nissan 240SX '96
Nissan 240SX (S14) '96
Nissan 240ZG (HS30) '71
Nissan 300ZX 2by2 (Z32) '98
Nissan 300ZX 2seater (Z32) '89
Nissan 300ZX 2seater (Z32) '98
Nissan Be-1 '87
Nissan EXA Canopy L.A. Version Type S '88
Nissan Fairlady 240ZG (HS30) '71
Nissan Fairlady Z 280Z-L 2seater (S130) '78
Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX (Z31) '83
Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX Version S TwinTurbo 2by2 (Z32) '98
Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX Version R TwinTurbo 2by2 (Z32) '98
Nissan BLUEBIRD 1600 Deluxe (510) '69
Nissan BLUEBIRD Rally Car (510) '69
Nissan PAO '89
Nissan PRIMERA 20V '01
Nissan PRIMERA 20V (EU) '01
Nissan R390 GT1 '98
Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car '98
Nissan SILVIA 240RS (S110) '83
Nissan SILVIA K's AERO (S14) '96
Nissan SILVIA Q's AERO (S14) '96
Nissan SKYLINE 1500Deluxe (S50D-1) '63
Nissan SKYLINE 2000GT-B (S54B) '67
Nissan SKYLINE 2000GT-R (KPGC110) '73
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R (R33) '95
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R (R33) '96
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R (R33) '97
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R N1 (R33) '95
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V-Spec (R33) '95
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V-Spec (R33) '96
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V-Spec (R33) '97
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V-Spec LM Limited (R33) '96
Nissan SKYLINE Hard Top 2000GT-R (KPGC10) '70
Opel Calibra Touring Car '94
Opel Speedster '00
Opel Speedster Turbo '00
Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 (only seams)
Pagani Zonda C12 '00
Pagani Zonda C12S '00
Pagani Zonda C12S 7.3 '02
Plymouth Superbird '70
Pontiac Sunfire GXP Concept '02
RUF 3400S '00
RUF BTR '86
RUF CTR Yellow Bird '87
RUF CTR2 '96
RUF RGT '00
Scion xA '03
Seat Ibiza Cupra '04
Shelby Series One Super Charged '03
Spoon FIT Race Car '03
Subaru LEGACY B4 Blitzen '00
Subaru LEGACY B4 RSK '98
Suzuki V6 ESCUDO Pikes Peak Special '98
Tommykaira ZZ-S '00
Toyota ALTEZZA AS200 '98
Toyota ALTEZZA RS200 '98
Toyota ALTEZZA Touring Car
Toyota CELICA SS-II (ZZT231) '99
Toyota COROLLA LEVIN GT-APEX (AE86) '83
Toyota ist 1.5S '02
Toyota SOARER 430SCV '01
Toyota SPRINTER TRUENO GT-APEX (AE86) '83
Toyota SPRINTER TRUENO GT-APEX (AE86 Shuichi Shigeno Version) '00
Toyota SUPERAUTOBACS APEX MR-S '00
Vauxhall Calibra Touring Car '94
Vauxhall Speedster '00
Vauxhall Speedster Turbo '00
Vauxhall Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 (only seams)
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Is anything missing? Did anybody find out other cars that have been improved in an objectively discernible manner?
 
One thing I always asked myself, though: What significance has the EXA Canopy to the motoring world? Does anybody know? (Other than looking quite strange).
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Exactly.. I was thinking the same thing. How is it higher priority on the upgrade list than M3, Supra? My only hope is, that those two are being upgraded to full premiums, so they didn't bother with standard upgrade. Hope, hope.. I find myself saying it quite often when talking about GT.
 
CSLACR
*snip Shelby GT350s*


Are these supposed to be the same car?
Supposed to be different?
All I see is 1pp and 2kg, I have a hard time believing it's not the same car, and that's how terrible the standard rendering is/was.
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In real life, the R is the racing version of the Shelby GT350.
Starting from a Shelby GT350, R models received new suspension tuning, a modified 289 cubic-inch Ford V-8, an improved cooling system, fiberglass body panels and Plexiglass windows. The interior was gutted for racing, and a full roll cage was added to meet competition regulations.
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The quote comes from this article:
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1081426_rare-1965-shelby-gt350r-hits-the-block-in-scottsdal

Although, it does seem pointless to have in GT6 now since you can give the normal GT350 a weight reduction, mod the suspension, & change the bumpers to a similar style to the R.
 

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