Tactics on braking from high speeds and entering a sharp turn?

[thechadmartinez]

What are your tactics? Cause if I brake hard, I usually lose control.. But if I brake while I have around 25% on the gas pedal, I do better.. What other tactics are there?

 

[Counter_Z23]

Brake in a straight line and set the brake bias up so it goes to the front more.

 

[RDB]

Depends on the car and the drivetrain. In an AWD car, I usually brake hard on a straight before the turn and gun it on the turn and exit fast. In a RWD car, depending on my suspension setup and engine layout, brake hard and release and then control brake and throttle on the turn enough to get into power slide but not much to lose exit speed. In FWD car it is always slow down before the turn and just control throttle on the turn and brake if necessary. I love AWD car, it is easier to control and I don't get booted that much for late braking.

 

[Ronald6]

Too many factors for a simple answer. It's much easier in real life. You don't get that thrown against your restraints feeling in the game.

The heavier the car the less I try to trail break. Drivingfast.com has a great corner breakdown. Learn to use your breaks to balance the weight shifts as much as you use them for decceleration.

Usually I try: quickly easing to full breaks, let the weight shift forward, as the back starts to settle back down smoothly start to back off the breaks and turn in. The back end should stay consistant as the turning force is countered by the extra weight.

 

[BlacqueJacques]

Brake in a straight line and set the brake bias up so it goes to the front more.

That, and 'tapping' the brake pedal; lose less speed - the technique I am working on with no ABS (brake bias 2/1)

 

[architype07]

That, and 'tapping' the brake pedal; lose less speed - the technique I am working on with no ABS (brake bias 2/1)

Same here, i find it much easier to control the car when tapping the break. It still comes down to timing and understanding the corner and the car your driving.

 

[steelertown7]

On REALLY sharp turns, I brake for 1-2 seconds and then hold the E-Brake for .5 seconds.

80% of the time I drift into the right direction, and it can save you alot of time if you time it well.

 

[Peluski17]

Not sure if it's a good technique, but I like to hit the brakes (usually close to full braking or a little less) and pop the throttle each time I down shift to keep the car stable and then it's just out in out through the turn...when you hit the apex begin applying the throttle but be weary of how much to apply as too much can cause you to lose grip and spin. Only apply the throttle when you know you don't have to let off the throttle.

If it's a really tight corner (like the Monza chicanes)...braking in a straight line before the turn is what I would recommend.

 

[Morgoth_666]

ABS off. Brake slightly for a moment then apply more(usually 50-80% with 8-10 brake strength) pressure, just almost but not quite to the point of locking. Let up(not completely), downshift to as high RPM as the car/setup maintains stability, and blip the throttle yourself(the game does it too quickly and causes lockup). Then increase the brake pressure again. Repeat. Keep the car as straight as possible while braking heavy. Trail off into the beginning of the corner with just a tiny bit of brake to finish decelerating the last little bit into the apex.

Different cars require different techniques, as said. AWD cars in particular need to brake and accelerate as straight as possible, perhaps rolling through the corner itself at slightly higher speed.

I use a wheel which helps. However, I can stop just fine using this method with the DS3(me: triggers for gas/brake, face buttons to shift), but my steering is pathetic after years of disuse.

P.S.: Start Stopping Sooner! It's easy to brake later once you get it.

 

[GTP_FastM3]

One thing that can really help braking is a load cell brake. The most common example is the Fanatec Club Sport Pedals, but there is also an add on for the G25/27 pedals. I purchased a set of Club Sport Pedals a few months ago and the diffence is night and day. You can actually feel how hard you are pressing the brakes and can much more easily apply different amounts of braking for different turns. There are 2 turns where I really noticed the difference. The first turn on Daytona Road course was terrible without the Club Sports. I found it nearly impossible to brake around the sweeper before the sharp left. Now after a few tries I can feel how hard to push the brake for that corner so that I can slow down gradually around the sweeper without losing the back end. The other area is the braking zone at the turn above the lake. Its the turn up the short hill from the final hairpin. You have to negotiate a left hand sweeper while braking for a 90 degree right. It was another corner which require some brake input and steering input together. It's very difficult to master even with a load cell.

So if you can afford it I'd highly recommend getting a load cell brake. It really does make it much easier to control your braking.

 

[Batmang_y0!]

if I brake while I have around 25% on the gas pedal, I do better..

What you describe is part of a technique used in "Trail Braking." A technique used in real life that works pretty well in GT5.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_braking

http://virtualracersedge.com/trail_braking.htm

 

[thechadmartinez]

What you describe is part of a technique used in "Trail Braking." A technique used in real life that works pretty well in GT5.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_braking

http://virtualracersedge.com/trail_braking.htm

got that technique from INITIAL D! hehe..

 

[claythrow]

One thing that can really help braking is a load cell brake. The most common example is the Fanatec Club Sport Pedals, but there is also an add on for the G25/27 pedals. I purchased a set of Club Sport Pedals a few months ago and the diffence is night and day. You can actually feel how hard you are pressing the brakes and can much more easily apply different amounts of braking for different turns. There are 2 turns where I really noticed the difference. The first turn on Daytona Road course was terrible without the Club Sports. I found it nearly impossible to brake around the sweeper before the sharp left. Now after a few tries I can feel how hard to push the brake for that corner so that I can slow down gradually around the sweeper without losing the back end. The other area is the braking zone at the turn above the lake. Its the turn up the short hill from the final hairpin. You have to negotiate a left hand sweeper while braking for a 90 degree right. It was another corner which require some brake input and steering input together. It's very difficult to master even with a load cell.

So if you can afford it I'd highly recommend getting a load cell brake. It really does make it much easier to control your braking.

Clubsport pedals rock. Being able to adjust pedal position for easier two feet driving is sweet too.