Tesla Master Plan: Part Deux

[CodeRedR51]

 

[EngieDiesel]

We're going to sell ten million self-driving cars by the end of this year!

I mean we're going to sell ten million electric semis by the end of thi...

I mean we're going to sell ten million Cybertrucks by the end of...

I mean we're going to sell ten million self-driving taxis by the...

I mean we're going to sell ten million autonomous robots by...

...we're going to open ten million Tesla drive-in diners by the end of this year!

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Musk is the richest person on earth not because he sells a lot of products (in the grand scheme of things, he doesn't) but because he sells stories and enough people think that enough people buy the story to justify giving him money, because stonks go up.

People aren't buying the Tesla cars stonks up forever narrative anymore and so him, being basically Gob Bluth, has illusioned some other alternate reality to get people to throw money at him again. Sadly, it will probably work.

 

[VXR]

I'm by no means his biggest fan, but in looking to replace my Abarth as a daily driver, in the EV space, it's really hard to find a car better suited to my needs and offering as much value for a similar price.

Between an Ioniq 5 and a M3 LR, it's very hard to choose the better looking Hyundai when in real world tests, it's no more efficient but considerably slower accelerating.

 

[eran0004]

I'm by no means his biggest fan, but in looking to replace my Abarth as a daily driver, in the EV space, it's really hard to find a car better suited to my needs and offering as much value for a similar price.

Between an Ioniq 5 and a M3 LR, it's very hard to choose the better looking Hyundai when in real world tests, it's no more efficient but considerably slower accelerating.

I'd pick the better looking car. The Ioniq is still accelerating pretty quickly, even if it's not as quick as the M3, so the difference between them in that regard is marginal.

And then there's all the negative value that comes with the Tesla brand and its ownership.

 

[Famine]

Between an Ioniq 5 and a M3 LR, it's very hard to choose the better looking Hyundai when in real world tests, it's no more efficient but considerably slower accelerating.

I find that I'm looking at my car more often than I'm doing any kind of 0-anything acceleration. In any case, if you're accelerating hard in an EV when you care about efficiency, you're doing it wrong; you cannot have both

I wouldn't necessarily have either though. I drive a Kia e-Niro for my side gig, and I can get 4mi/kWh without trying; I've had it up to 4.4 with the driving style reading 99/1/0 - for 81 miles and it wouldn't tick to 100/0/0! By comparison I did an economy recce for Genesis in the long-range GV60 - the Ioniq 5's sibling - and it was a real effort to get 3.7mi/kWh from it (the 5N I managed to just get over 3... and I wasn't coddling it initially but then did the maths) but I only needed 3.0 to accomplish the route and was just showboating. I got another 75 miles home without a top-up.

Take a look at the Polestar 2 LR. It's a little pricier (as new) but quicker and more efficient than the current HMG cars (EV6 is surely due an updated model soon). The big bosses might be in China, but Polestar/Volvo are their own group within that structure - and Ingenlath and Samuelsson are nice enough.


By the way, the website in your profile seems to have been taken over by an Indonesian gambling site.

 

[VXR]

I find that I'm looking at my car more often than I'm doing any kind of 0-anything acceleration. In any case, if you're accelerating hard in an EV when you care about efficiency, you're doing it wrong; you cannot have both

I wouldn't necessarily have either though. I drive a Kia e-Niro for my side gig, and I can get 4mi/kWh without trying; I've had it up to 4.4 with the driving style reading 99/1/0 - for 81 miles and it wouldn't tick to 100/0/0! By comparison I did an economy recce for Genesis in the long-range GV60 - the Ioniq 5's sibling - and it was a real effort to get 3.7mi/kWh from it (the 5N I managed to just get over 3... and I wasn't coddling it initially but then did the maths) but I only needed 3.0 to accomplish the route and was just showboating. I got another 75 miles home without a top-up.

Take a look at the Polestar 2 LR. It's a little pricier (as new) but quicker and more efficient than the current HMG cars (EV6 is surely due an updated model soon). The big bosses might be in China, but Polestar/Volvo are their own group within that structure - and Ingenlath and Samuelsson are nice enough.


By the way, the website in your profile seems to have been taken over by an Indonesian gambling site.

Oh, how lovely. I don't even remember having a website on here, so thanks for the heads up.

I'm making a used purchase, so it's not as broad a choice of efficient rivals at similar money. Watched a video of a guy doing a sub-zero 70mph run on some of the M5 I use for my commute and at 60% range in -1° cold, he'd done 80 miles with the car indicating 201 miles left, whilst achieving 3m/KWh. He did the same test in the Ioniq on a summer's evening at 19° and it was something like 3.2m/kwh so the extra wow and gadgets and performance potential if I want to throw charge away, seemed better value.