The Budget Nürburgring Challenge!

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Oooo, nice choice there. Hopefully the bhp doesnt hurt you too badly on that long backstraight.

Shaved more off my time.

8'10.404


I am so close to 8'09.xxx, but I am having trouble keeping focused. I need a break I think :p
 
Nice choice but it did a 8'56 :( The power hurts on hills and straights and the car doesnt have enough front end grip. Its a good car but nowhere near what I need.. i need to get some extra money im all dried up from bying all these cars.

Do you think a Mx5 would be a good choice? 👍
 
Nice choice but it did a 8'56 :( The power hurts on hills and straights and the car doesnt have enough front end grip. Its a good car but nowhere near what I need.. i need to get some extra money im all dried up from bying all these cars.

Do you think a Mx5 would be a good choice? 👍

Ah, thats a shame.

Most certainly. Worth a try, MX-5's are very good cars. :sly:
 
Mazda Mx5 VR-Limited '95- 7279 Cr
Sports Soft- 5600 Cr
Stage 1 Turbo- 4500 Cr
Weight Reduction 1- 1000 Cr
Race Chip- 1000 Cr
Sports Flywheel- 400 Cr
Oil Change and Wash- 100 Cr
______________________________
Total Cost- 19889
Leftover- 111 Cr
Power-192hp
 
I tried a MX-5 and it was too loose for me. I couldn't run a fast clean lap in it. I either went off the track or I spun out.
 
Mine seems great. I think its the sports soft tires :)
 
Sports soft tyres definately help. The increase in grip is enough to shave a good 10 seconds on the Nurburgring, maybe more. My S13 actually blew away my S14 ghost from the start, the increase in cornering speed just because of 1 grade softer tyres is amazing.
 
Yeah my MX-5 works well with the tires.. just did an 8'22 and that was a terrible lap :) but thats the quickest for me :D
 
I never thought about softer tires. I might have to try that on my MX-5.
 
Ok, i tried another three cars, or at least, i bought 3 more, and this is the first:

Mazda RX-7 GT-Limited (FC, J) '85 cr 5914
Changed the oil cr 50
then fitted a semi-racing exhaust/air filter cr 2850
took the back seats out cr 1100
then the front seat, door cards etc, hired a skip for the garden cr 5300
fitted a twin clutch cr 2600
and a racing flywheel for super spinnyness cr 1000
then topped off the red RX-7 with some ENKEI 032's cr 500
and washed it cos of the bugs cr 50

Total: cr19,364

The cheapest car so far! 199BHP
Did two laps: 8'05.445

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She's a slippery bugger, and i just held her on the track for that time, not much time left with her.
Onto the next! (day off today) but must eat and go gym first.

:irked:👍
 
Do you think you will ever get into the 7s VEXD? I can't even run a 8'05.xxx in a 250hp car.

I just started on a CRX and ran a 8'28.xxx on my first lap. I think I can take of 3-4 seconds though.
 
:trouble:

Here's your answer:

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Here's what to do...

Buy a Toyota MR2 S Edition (J) '99 cr 9900
Change her oil cr 50
Fit a stage 1 Turbo cr 4600
Then a Semi-racing exhaust/air filter cr 2850
Add a Racing flywheel cr 1000
Take the back seats out cr 1100
and wash it... cr 50

Which should cost you cr 19,550.

I had 193BHP (wanted to fit the chip, but it gave me 201 :yuck:)

Then, get your lap almost perfect (another 1-2 seconds left, that's all)

Et Voila.

Sub 8 club-1st member :dopey:

I am enjoying this budget thingy.

I got 5 more cars today too.... back later if i get time tonight
:trouble:👍
Good luck all
 
Sorry, i just edited it in the post above
:rolleyes:👍

when im shopping i look for something around the 1000KG mark, with around 150BHP for the weight, and a maximum cost of 11,000cr to get towards the top end of the 8 min mark.

I missed the MR2 V edition (its faster) the other day when i didnt buy it and the day changed and the line up changed with it:yuck: and i knew it would be fast, but the S edition turned up today.

There's a few left for me to try, but im not sure if any of them will beat this car by much, if at all.

Its down to driver ability now.

Good luck
:irked:👍
 
I saved the replay, and i can post a PAL version in Max format, as im in the RSR list, but someone will have to teach me how to convert it to youtube or host it for me if you want it in this thread, sorry.

The lap is WRS standard clean, as all my posted laps are.
Off to train now, back later....
👍
 
O.K. I didn't know you were a replay supported racer. Nevermind.

I'm going to go and work on my CRX I think i'm onto something with it. It is by far the best car I have drove yet. I think it is capable of a 8'15.xx.
 
Im gonna practice with the MX5 a bit more in a minute. Then I might go to a MR car. I think those are best for the ring because I was really happy with my old supercharged MR2 (only 163hp and ran 8'27.xxx's with potential for more). Im thinking another MR2 but newer and more powerful :)
 
I saved the replay, and i can post a PAL version in Max format, as im in the RSR list, but someone will have to teach me how to convert it to youtube or host it for me if you want it in this thread, sorry.

The lap is WRS standard clean, as all my posted laps are.
Off to train now, back later....
👍

Damn! I finally get a nice comfortable lead, and you smash me by 15 seconds :ouch:

Any chance I could get a copy of your ghost? Sending it in an E-Mail or some upload site (www.sendspace.com is pretty good) will be fine. It would be interesting to chase your MR2 ghost with my S13. Perhaps I could learn a thing or 2, thanks 👍
 
Mitsubishi Mirage Cyborg ZR '97- 6577 Cr 13423
Oil 50cr
Sports soft tyres 6200cr
Weight reduction 1 1100cr
N/A tune 1- 4700
Race flywheel- 1000cr

Leftover- 473 Cr

I know its a FF but it seems good with 195hp and 990kg. Off to the 'ring
 
Ahhh, the Cyborg is on my list of cars i bought to try out, this will be interesting indeed!

VtiRoj, i can put the lap up here in a post, and you could Maxdrive it down to your PS2 that way?

By the way, is your name VtiRoj because you own one?

Let me know if you want the lap up in this thread in Max format bud 👍

Sorry to take your lead, come get it back!

:trouble:👍
 
I cant push that S13 any faster, seems its beyond my capability to hit that 8'09.

Time to go shopping again. Might try a GTS Skyline R32. Why has every car I've used been a Nissan? :confused:

Edit: To VEXD:
Yeah, I can put it onto my own memory card via MAX.

Well yes and no, the car isnt in my name, but it will be once its paid off, and I get a license.

Thanks, but your MR2 will keep me busy for now :p

Oh I intend to! It'll just take a while to do it :D
 
The Cyborg has a strange engine.. its like V-TEC but the kick is much stronger its like slow slow slow WHEEEEEEEEELSPIIIIN! Im doing slow times with it atm. im getting quicker though.. all you lot are better than me at GT4 :|


Edit: VTIRoj- The GT-S Skylines are 212hp for the turbo model. the non turbos are like 180 but quite heavy. IMO I dont see it perfoming too greatly in the challenge.. but then again.. its a Skyline. It might prove me wrong. 👍
 


Just ran this in the Celica I made earlier.

Toyota Celica 2000GT-Four (ST165) '86.....12,415cr
Oil Change.................................. ................50cr
Racing Exhaust................................. .......4,600cr
Stage 1 weight Reduction..........................1,100 cr
Semi-Racing Flywheel................................ ..550cr
________________________________________ ____
Left Over.................................... ...........1,285cr
Total Cost.................................... ........18,715cr
 
Nice one! Im still trying to get better :)
 
VEXD's tips for this challenge:

1. Dont fit a wing.
Its a waste of good credits, as nothing you're driving is going fast enough to really warrant having one on the back.
Ive been made to eat my words here, as stidriver's time with a GT wing fitted has clearly proven me wrong, and that fitting a wing with racing tyres will greatly reduce your lap times. :irked:
If you're fitting it to help the car hold the road, then that leads me to point number....

2. The ring is a flowing course, that needs a soft suspension to tackle it well.
It goes up and down a lot, and needs to be driven using all driving styles to get around it in the fastest way. I drift some corners to get through them quicker, and stop, point, and stab the throttle to get round others. Some have a large radius, and watching your MPH is the key there, making sure you maintain a good speed. For example, the Flugplatz or "flying place" just after the first bridge, is two right handers, in quick succession. In any of the cars we are using in this challenge, you should be holding 112MPH round both, easily, before carrying on flat out towards schweudenkreuz (the right hander with sand round it at T2).

3. The cars used in this challenge, are limited to a certain horsepower, and therefore, driving them effectively does not just consist of getting them to stay on the tarmac.
Take your car off down the track, see what happens when you change gear early, or late... does it help to shift early in some gears? Some cars need redlining (Hondas) and others need to be shifted early, especially Turbo'd cars, as they get more boost if they are under strain, and therefore carry that extra mile an hour in some places, just for shifting up, which can mean 1-2 seconds going up Kesselchen (the long, long, long hill 2 turns before the Karussell) if you manage to get that extra speed.

4. Look at your cars stats.....
If its heavy, but high powered, use your money to get rid of the weight, and if its light, but has no grunt, you need to turbo it, or work on the motor. The lighter cars, will suffer from bouncing around on their springs at the ring, but will carry better speed if you can stay on the course! The heavier cars will be more easy to drive, but may require the right tuning to give them enough Umph to carry their bodyweight effectively and give you fast times.
5. Tune effectively. Bit of a repeat here, but look at all your options before buying things to bolt on.
The flywheel will help to give you better acceleration, but if your car takes 4 hours (may be an exaggeration) to change gear (anyone tried the peuguot 905? Bigracer?) then try fitting a twin clutch to speed it up.
Weight reduction/power increase is the name of the game here really, but choosing subtle mods that are cheap, but add up to a better package can really help the times drop.

6. Learn your course.
Its obvious really, but knowing your course is the best way to get faster laps than other people. I appear to be doing well in this particular challenge, but ive probably run more laps at the ring than anybody else racing here at the moment (excuse my big head :D) and yet it still teaches me something new EVERYTIME I RUN A LAP. Fact.
Especially when i try these lower powered cars that you need to learn the individual characters of when trying to drive them fast.
Some corners need a drift approach, some a stab and go, some a balanced speed, some need a gear change half way round, just to unsettle the car mid-corner, and give it more grip for the last half of the turn, some are luck, some are judgement, and on the very edge, most are exhilirating when done right. Using the Kerbs correctly helps no end, and avoiding the kerbs in a lot of places is a must-do.
For example, today, i was running the RX-7 round the two right handers i mentioned earlier, and on lap one, i tried running the kerbs in 4th, and ended up just catching the outside grass after the turns, and fishtailing for a second, which cost me time. Lap two, i remembered what had happened the first time, and so, halfway into the two corners, i shifted to 5th, which numbed the car, and at first appears to slow you down, but because i didnt clip any grass, and carried all my speed, it was a faster exit onto the first fastest part of the course, and gave me a better laptime.
Try to split the track up into 3 sections, with fast bits in between, and learn the exit points onto the fast bits. Carrying a lot of speed into these exit corners will yield faster laps... especially exiting Bergwerk onto the Kesselchen hill, where ive watched 7 tenths disappear today in the MR2, that i wont get back without doing another bloody lap :ouch:

There are many ways to improve on this track, and after 4 years of racing it, i havent even begun to find them all, so as is quite obvious, practice is the key.

I hope nobody finds me offensive, as helpful is all im trying to be.

I'll get that lap up in a minute Vti....

:irked:👍
 
Great help! No offence taken :) I think I need the help mostly here... but im learning to cut me some slack :-P
 
Edit: VTIRoj- The GT-S Skylines are 212hp for the turbo model. the non turbos are like 180 but quite heavy. IMO I dont see it perfoming too greatly in the challenge.. but then again.. its a Skyline. It might prove me wrong. 👍

DAMN! I only just noticed the weight. I dont think it'll perform as well as I first thought. I could of sworn it was lighter :grumpy: I just found a nice green Type S '91, so we'll see how it goes.

Nice tips VEXD. I'm pretty sure I've been following a similar set of guidlines myself, although my 'Ring knowledge is very limited. My lines are totally off I think.

R32 shopping list:
Nissan Skyline GTS25 Type S '91 - Cr.8,550
Oil change - Cr.50
Sports soft tyres - Cr.6,200
Weight reduction stage 1 - Cr.1,100
Chip - Cr.1,250
Racing flywheel - Cr.1,000
Large cluch - Cr.1,600
Total - Cr. 19,750
Left - Cr. 250

BHP: 197


Off to the Nurburgring... again... I think I've spend Cr.20,000 on ferry rides and petrol alone :scared:
 
R32 shopping list:
Nissan Skyline GTS25 Type S '91 - Cr.8,550
Oil change - Cr.50
Sports soft tyres - Cr.6,200
Weight reduction stage 1 - Cr.1,100
Chip - Cr.1,250
Racing flywheel - Cr.1,000
Large cluch - Cr.1,600
Total - Cr. 19,750
Left - Cr. 250

BHP: 197


Off to the Nurburgring... again... I think I've spend Cr.20,000 on ferry rides and petrol alone


Haha your not allowed to go on the ferry, it goes over the 200hp limit ;)
 
Haha your not allowed to go on the ferry, it goes over the 200hp limit ;)

Did I say ferry? I meant rowing boat :sly:

The R32 is slower than the S13 in a straight line, but it brakes better, and the top speed is higher. Doubt it'll beat the S13, but it'll do a damn good job of keeping up!

Edit: Hmm. Nevermind, the S13 just took off and left me for dust :scared: I'm gonna need something lighter and right up at the 195bhp range... 💡
 
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