The central: HOW TO gold all licences, mission challenges and track experiences thread (video guides inside)

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I have come back to the game after a long break and slowly relearned it. I want to get gold on all the normal licenses. The only ones left are S4 and S6-10. Which one of these I should go for first? I have been trying the S-6 but that Shelby is driving me nuts… I remember trying S-4 hundreds on times before giving up before. That Tokyo Expressway is so unforgiving.

I’m using a wheel, MF, TC 2 and default ABS. I’ve tried to study the ghosts, but I cannot replicate what they are doing at all and in S-6 it’s so much ahead of me after the first turns it’s very demoralising. My biggest problem now is just losing hope at this point. I guess these are not even the hard challenges in the game but I’m struggling. I did gold everything in GT Sport and even when it was hard I still felt like I could do it.
 
Zaccheus
I have come back to the game after a long break and slowly relearned it. I want to get gold on all the normal licenses. The only ones left are S4 and S6-10. Which one of these I should go for first? I have been trying the S-6 but that Shelby is driving me nuts… I remember trying S-4 hundreds on times before giving up before. That Tokyo Expressway is so unforgiving.

I’m using a wheel, MF, TC 2 and default ABS. I’ve tried to study the ghosts, but I cannot replicate what they are doing at all and in S-6 it’s so much ahead of me after the first turns it’s very demoralising. My biggest problem now is just losing hope at this point. I guess these are not even the hard challenges in the game but I’m struggling. I did gold everything in GT Sport and even when it was hard I still felt like I could do it.
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Try TCS 0. Like get actually used to it.
 
I have been trying S7 and managed to get silver after a few hours. I can only do one hour a day before losing my mind and wanting to punt my PS5 out of a window. Playing without sound helps a bit and drinking heavily.

I have watched some videos and the demo, but I really don’t understand the grip I’m understeering like crazy if I don’t break in places where I shouldn’t.
 
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The only advice I can give is to maybe use the assists and start with TCS at 1-2 until you feel confident enough to do a lap with TCS at 0. And keep watching the demo replay and using the demo ghost. It may be distracting but it can guide you and help you determine what you're doing wrong.

And of course, don't give up hope.
 
Chris30
The only advice I can give is to maybe use the assists and start with TCS at 1-2 until you feel confident enough to do a lap with TCS at 0. And keep watching the demo replay and using the demo ghost. It may be distracting but it can guide you and help you determine what you're doing wrong.

And of course, don't give up hope.
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I can double that. Even more, I have found out that the "officially recommended" settings are not always those that I get the best results with. In some cases, I got better using TCS, Counter-steering or ABS than without. You have to find out yourself what's best.

Regarding never giving up - it depends. If you have both enough spare time and nerves for (a lot) more attempts, continue. But if not, it might be better for your physical and mental health to accept that you won't beat it, and to use your time on other things.

Guys, any car recommendations for the 30 minutes Gr.3 mission at High Speed ring? I got 2nd with the Subaru Gr.3, could probably try again a couple of times to get gold with that car - but there might be better options.
 
Still doing S7. Got a time 1:08:025 so just .125 off. Definitely doable, but 95% of my attempts end in a crash. TCS doesn't seem to make much of a difference here and I have kept it at 0.
 
For the life of me I just can’t seem to gold Master A-4…

No matter what, with the demo ghost, with my PB ghost, all aids off (always play like that). I quit, come back later or another day, nope. I’m just .200 away…
 
OZZYGT
For the life of me I just can’t seem to gold Master A-4…

No matter what, with the demo ghost, with my PB ghost, all aids off (always play like that). I quit, come back later or another day, nope. I’m just .200 away…
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Hmm, I'm currently also trying to gold the A licenses. Have troubles golding A-8 to A-10, but somehow hadn't problems with A-4. If turning off aids and using ghosts don't help, things get complicated.

Have you also tried the ghost of a different player, e.g. the one with the world's best time? Someone said that at some point the demo ghost won't be helpful anymore, so there might be someone out there driving even better. I also had the impression that the demo ghost doesn't drive perfect in some cases, so using a player's ghost instead might be your last option (apart from fruther training, of course).
 
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I have been doing S9 now for a few days and am having a lit of trouble finding the last .400. I used the new data logger and apparently I'm awful at the last hairpin. Should I maybe try to perfect it in track experience?
 
Meltac
Hmm, I'm currently also trying to gold the A licenses. Have troubles golding A-8 to A-10, but somehow hadn't problems with A-4. If turning off aids and using ghosts don't help, things get complicated.

Have you also tried the ghost of a different player, e.g. the one with the world's best time? Someone said that at some point the demo ghost won't be helpful anymore, so there might be someone out there driving even better. I also had the impression that the demo ghost doesn't drive perfect in some cases, so using a player's ghost instead might be your last option (apart from fruther training, of course).
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I've golded the rest of the Master A, just need this one :ouch:. I'm not sure if you can upload ghosts from other players for license tests. I will try though. 👍
Zaccheus
I have been doing S9 now for a few days and am having a lit of trouble finding the last .400. I used the new data logger and apparently I'm awful at the last hairpin. Should I maybe try to perfect it in track experience?
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Is that the 917K at Spa? yes, that was the bane of my existence until I took like a week break from it and all of a sudden I came back faster somehow. I even beat the gold time by almost a full second!
 
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OZZYGT
Is that the 917K at Spa? yes, that was the bane of my existence until I took like a week break from it and all of a sudden I came back faster somehow. I even beat the gold time by almost a full second!
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No thats S10 and I don’t have even silver in that one. S9 is Deep Forest Raceway using the Nissan GTR GT500. It’s a fun track with a great car but it doesn’t make it easy. I think I’m pushing too hard and being too inconsistent.
 
OZZYGT
I'm not sure if you can upload ghosts from other players for license tests. I will try though.
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Have you been able yet to do this? I can't remember the exact procedure, and last night I didn't manage to get in other ghosts.

The videos on post #1 of this thread should be updated to the latest timings:

I'm struggling to gold A-9 (the first hairpin challenge), so I thought I watch the video here. There, the gold time is set at 17,100 secs, and the guy in the video needs a little more than 17 secs. That's also about my best time, but in the current version of the game the gold time is only 16,800 secs which seems unrealistic to me. No idea how to get down there :ill:

Also, I'm not sure whether the demo ghost has been made from a real player. In A-9 the ghost accelerates so fast at the exit of the hairpin that it seems like the AI rubber-banding experienced in race events rather than a human player. I mean I almost perfected my turn through that hairpin and even get almost aligned to the demo ghost (with a 0,3 secs offset!) but are completely unable to accelerate as fast as the ghost upon the exit :ouch:
 
Meltac
Have you been able yet to do this? I can't remember the exact procedure, and last night I didn't manage to get in other ghosts.
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Yeah I checked and you cannot upload ghosts from top racers, only the demonstration one.
Meltac
The videos on post #1 of this thread should be updated to the latest timings:

I'm struggling to gold A-9 (the first hairpin challenge), so I thought I watch the video here. There, the gold time is set at 17,100 secs, and the guy in the video needs a little more than 17 secs. That's also about my best time, but in the current version of the game the gold time is only 16,800 secs which seems unrealistic to me. No idea how to get down there :ill:
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Update 1.55 revised target times for some licenses and missions. There are plenty of YT tutorials with the updated gold times.
Meltac
Also, I'm not sure whether the demo ghost has been made from a real player. In A-9 the ghost accelerates so fast at the exit of the hairpin that it seems like the AI rubber-banding experienced in race events rather than a human player. I mean I almost perfected my turn through that hairpin and even get almost aligned to the demo ghost (with a 0,3 secs offset!) but are completely unable to accelerate as fast as the ghost upon the exit :ouch:
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I believe the demo is from a real player. More than once I've seen the demo not take the most optimal race lines which I end up gaining time on it and sometimes have even finished ahead of the demo ghost. If you look at the world record times, they are well below the demonstration time. Also, most good drivers are pretty good at 'trail braking', which is why you see them getting out of a corner so fast.
 
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OZZYGT
Yeah I checked and you cannot upload ghosts from top racers, only the demonstration one.
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That's a shame. But thanks for testing. Wondering what the author who recommended doing this was referring to :confused:
OZZYGT
Update 1.55 revised target times for some licenses and missions. There are plenty of YT tutorials with the updated gold times.
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I know. But what I meant was is that since this thread is called "The central: HOW TO gold ..." it should be always the most current source of knowledge in that field and thus contiously updated (including embedded videos) IMHO, much like certain other threads dealing with engine swaps etc.
OZZYGT
Also, most good drivers are pretty good at 'trail braking', which is why you see them getting out of a corner so fast.
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Too bad. I still suck at trail braking, although I'm practicing the technique regularly - well, better: occasionally ;)

But thanks for linked that video. I knew it, have watched it a while ago, but maybe have to rewatch it.
 
Damn I hate the S8 Zonda R... Feels like driving on ice skates, I have to unlearn everything from the S9 Nissan GTR GT500. Haven't even gotten silver yet. 😥
 
Zaccheus
Damn I hate the S8 Zonda R... Feels like driving on ice skates, I have to unlearn everything from the S9 Nissan GTR GT500. Haven't even gotten silver yet. 😥
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I'm not yet there. Just have finished the super license all in bronze yesterday. S-8 to S-10 where quite well doable, though. At least silver might be possible. The missions with the super formula at Laguna Seca and the Mustang at Deep Forest were by far the hardest to bronze and I have no idea how to gold those. S-10 which is often considered the hardest wasn't that bad, I did a full 360-turn and still got bronze :)
 
OZZYGT
For the life of me I just can’t seem to gold Master A-4…

No matter what, with the demo ghost, with my PB ghost, all aids off (always play like that). I quit, come back later or another day, nope. I’m just .200 away…
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I finally gilded it!! Holy Molly that was hard! Harder than S-10 gold imo. I never went that long trying to gold a license test.

EDIT: Come to Pappa, GT Black Series :D
 

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Ok I don't pretend to be good at all on GT7 but I am ok, I have golded all the normal licences until I got to the S Licence where I got gold on a few but S4Bronze S5Bronze S7Silver S8Bronze S9 Silver and S10Bronze I cannot for the life of me better these so I accept it and moved on.
Master Licence Got Bronze which will do for me on all apart from Master S5 in the snow and Master S10 is still locked until I do the snow one.
I know many have done it but How?? I have watched the demo a thousand times and not being silly but my car refuses to take the same path as the demo car at the same speeds etc and I always hit the wall! so I have only spent about 4 months trying to do it and I am really struggling my best time is 1:53.892 but bronze is 1:51.500 Any one got any tips before I have to accept I may never do it.
Also if I complete the master licence what advantages does it give me?? I mean if I just get like 300000 credits or something then I can quit it and gain that credit easy elsewhere in the game.
Cheers.

Edit: HAHAHAHAHA After months of trying I write that post out then go back on it and boom 1:50.484 Bronze achieved yes woohoo.
Then just done last one masters10 at Suzuka in Mclaren and got bronze on my second go YES YES YES ahhh time for pizza I think.
 
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It is noteworthy (again) that many of the videos and tutorials here and on the web concerning license tests, mission challenges etc. are outdated because PD keeps on makes things more difficult by lowering the timings, changing physics and removing glitches.

So, many players have achieved bronze or even gold some time ago but now they wouldn't (so easy) because PD made things harder.
 
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Meltac
So, many players have achieved bronze or even gold some time ago but now they wouldn't (so easy) because PD made things harder.
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That's not directly the case.

A lowered time represents a test that has become easier under the new physics, thus the time has to be lowered in order not to make the test easier to achieve.

Sometimes the time is raised for the exact opposite reason - and one doesn't have to look far on the forums to find people confused why they don't have gold despite having a gold time, because the time wasn't good enough for gold when they set it and the test now has a higher target time because it became easier.

It should, on average, be no harder or easier to pass or gold all of the relevant tests now than it was at launch. I've done it twice, under two different physics sets about two years apart and it's seemed to be the case.
 
Famine
That's not directly the case.

A lowered time represents a test that has become easier under the new physics, thus the time has to be lowered in order not to make the test easier to achieve.

Sometimes the time is raised for the exact opposite reason - and one doesn't have to look far on the forums to find people confused why they don't have gold despite having a gold time, because the time wasn't good enough for gold when they set it and the test now has a higher target time because it became easier.

It should, on average, be no harder or easier to pass or gold all of the relevant tests now than it was at launch. I've done it twice, under two different physics sets about two years apart and it's seemed to be the case.
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Thank you for the clarification. That way, the changes make more sense.

However, knowing how PD acts, I somehow doubt that this is true for all timing changes. I mean, look at the regular race events of the game which are often completely unbalanced - Tokyo Grind, Cupman+ and Gr. 3 / Gr. 4 events being very hard to impossible to win for beginner / average players even with easy difficulty, whereas Turbo Car is way too easy at the given 700pp even at hard difficulty. Or even within the same race category, e.g. the newer 400pp races being much harder than the older ones. When I see these unbalanced events I cannot really imagine that PD would take that much effort for perfectly balancing the missions and license tests. But that's only my suspicion.
 
Meltac
Thank you for the clarification. That way, the changes make more sense.

However, knowing how PD acts, I somehow doubt that this is true for all timing changes. I mean, look at the regular race events of the game which are often completely unbalanced - Tokyo Grind, Cupman+ and Gr. 3 / Gr. 4 events being very hard to impossible to win for beginner / average players even with easy difficulty, whereas Turbo Car is way too easy at the given 700pp even at hard difficulty. Or even within the same race category, e.g. the newer 400pp races being much harder than the older ones. When I see these unbalanced events I cannot really imagine that PD would take that much effort for perfectly balancing the missions and license tests. But that's only my suspicion.
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Good point, however I think if PD wanted to be precise in something, then it would be on License Tests and Missions. Those are the marquee 'trails' that GT has been known for since their early days and the ones that are most memorable to legacy players. Race events are always seen more volatile with so many more variables such as you racing vs an unpredictable AI; and I even believe that PD has intended to make AI unpredictable and to not always have the same performance to an exact lap time. Plus, race events are meant to be more approachable to the casual player in a way that if you only managed to pass the licenses with bronze, you can still enjoy the rest of the game regardless of license requirements.
 
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