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It's believed that that was how the whole van der Garde saga came about - Sauber were going to run him alongside Bianchi, but after Bianchi's accident, the team couldn't get an engine subsidy from Ferrari. They were forced to re-evaluate their plans because van der Garde wasn't able to support the team with his sponsor package, even after they struck a new deal with Ferrari to take on Raffaele Marciello as reserve driver.
 
Meanwhile, everyone's favourite numpty, Jolyon Palmer, reckons that he'll be in the frame for a race start if he can beat Grosjean or Maldonado's time(s) in an FP1 session.

Yes, you read that right - he thinks that one good lap will set him up for a seat. And it's not like the team have anything better to do than entertain his ego, like, say, their testing programme ...
 
To be honest, he's probably thinking more along the lines of beating them consistently. And FP1 drivers really only run for the first thirty minutes of the session, so I doubt that the team would be seriously compromised by it. But when a driver, like Palmer - and Paul di Resta was another one of the same ilk - has such a high opinion of himself, it's hard not to criticise them for it.
 
know any race drivers that don't think they are the best thing since sliced bread?
 
No.

I know that it takes an extreme level of self-confidence to be a racing driver. But for the most part, drivers are as good as they think they are. Sometimes, though, you get a driver like Palmer who thinks that he is better than he actually is.
 
I know that there has only been one qualifying session in GP2, but if it's representative of the way the season is going to go, then McLaren are going to have a huge problem in 2016 - ART Grand Prix's Stoffel Vandoorne and Nobuhara Matsu****a have locked out the front row of the grid in Bahrain. Both have a stunning pedigree, and if they can keep that form up, the Formula 1 grid will beckon sooner rather than later.
 
Yeah, I can see that being an issue for them as well. They'll need to have either Alonso or Button in the car to continue development, but Vandoorne will have spent 2 years in GP2 at the front of that grid and Honda will want their guy in the seat as well. They'll need to have a customer/b-team set up for 2016 if they'll want to avoid any issues with drivers.
 
They won't have a B-team until they sort the engines out. They've definitely made progress, even if they're still staring down the barrel of a Q1 exit - they could keep pace with the mid-pack in Shanghai.

I doubt they'll buy into a team, but they'll want someone who can be competitive. The catch is that, assuming for the moment that they want both Vandoorne and Matsu****a to progress, all of the teams touted as potentially being for sale - Lotus, Force India, and Toro Rossi - have at least one good driver on the books. Conversely, Manor could take both, but would risk being uncompetitive without investment.

If they were willing to supply two teams, then they could split Vandoorne and Matsu****a up. Alternatively if Ferrari were to drop Raikkonen or Raikkonen were to retire, the team would likely pick up someone like Grosjean (especially if Lynn is beaten in GP2). That would open up a seat at Lotus, and with some incentive, Maldonado could be given a one-way ticket back to Caracas, especially since Lotus is now reportedly financially stable. But that would hinge on other moved opening up seats, and I am sure Honda would rather be proactive in getting seats for drivers.
 
Wish I could. I ordered FOXTEL so that I can watch a lot of racing, but my building isn't wired for it and I'm waiting on strata to upgrade.
 
My bet is they will Resign Kimi for 1 year contract if he performs the way he is performing.
 
You mean constantly being beaten by his team-mate?

He needs to rise up and take the fight to Vettel. 2014 proved that he is sensitive to the performance of the car, while Alonso was consistently able to drive beyond its limitations. Now he's being beaten by a new arrival to the team, and while the gap might be closer to Vettel than it was to Alonso, he's still behind. He needs to consistently out-qualify and/or out-race Vettel.
 
You mean constantly being beaten by his team-mate?

He needs to rise up and take the fight to Vettel. 2014 proved that he is sensitive to the performance of the car, while Alonso was consistently able to drive beyond its limitations. Now he's being beaten by a new arrival to the team, and while the gap might be closer to Vettel than it was to Alonso, he's still behind. He needs to consistently out-qualify and/or out-race Vettel.
He doesn't need to beat Vettel to stay at Ferrari, besides in China he had more Race pace.

I have my Doubts about Bottas being able to deliver as he has been Very pretty patchy this year and the end of last year.

I also doubt Hamilton will want to Leave Mercedes regardless how long it takes to sign the contract.
 
He doesn't need to beat Vettel to stay at Ferrari, besides in China he had more Race pace.
His race pace in China doesn't amount to much considering Vettel beat him. Ferrari will want to see that it's worth their while retaining him. He's only got a season or two left in him.

I have my Doubts about Bottas being able to deliver as he has been Very pretty patchy this year and the end of last year.
He has only just recovered from his back injury, and while the FW37 is better than the FW36, Williams have been leap-frogged by Ferrari.
 
His race pace in China doesn't amount to much considering Vettel beat him. Ferrari will want to see that it's worth their while retaining him. He's only got a season or two left in him.


He has only just recovered from his back injury, and while the FW37 is better than the FW36, Williams have been leap-frogged by Ferrari.
I understand that, im comparing him to Massa.
 
Massa is still Massa, and despite what it looks like I still don't rate him as a Top driver.
Well, it's a good thing that you're not deciding Ferrari's driver line-up for 2016, isn't it? You said it yourself - you would pick the under-performing spent force that is Kimi Raikkonen over untapped potential of Valtteri Bottas on the grounds that Bottas is under-performing relative to Felipe Massa due to a back injury whereas Raikkonen is under-performing for no good reason.
 
Well, it's a good thing that you're not deciding Ferrari's driver line-up for 2016, isn't it? You said it yourself - you would pick the under-performing spent force that is Kimi Raikkonen over untapped potential of Valtteri Bottas on the grounds that Bottas is under-performing relative to Felipe Massa due to a back injury whereas Raikkonen is under-performing for no good reason.
I was judging more then this season like I said and there is a trend regardless of a back injury, and Kimi underperforming is mainly in qualifying, at Malaysia he wasn't even given a chance to get into Q3 which ruined his race.

Given His race pace is quite good and outside Q3 was right on Vettel and slightly faster at bahrain, I think your judgement this early is premature.
 
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