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Peasantslayer
Where would Palmer's best chance of getting a seat be?
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Preferably on his backside at home. He might be the GP2 Series champion, but he's a cross between Chilton and di Resta - more money than talent, an inflated sense of his own ability, and a bad attitude. Look at his reaction to Verstappen getting a sear at Toro Rosso - he was, for want of a better word, a complete arsehole.
 
Palmer has been in GP2 for several seasons now so unless he has enough money I doubt he will get in.

Most teams that hire on Talent look at drivers who can go straight for a title fight on first attempt.
 
I'm totally puzzled by Alonso's post race interview. He is not going to sit in a Merc powered car next year? He will do what's best for himself and Ferrari? When people het the news he can't give now we will all realize it was "obvious"?


Wot?
 
Well McLaren will be Honda powered and he probably does think it's for the best between himself and Ferrari?

Deflection because he doesn't want to answer properly but without telling actual lies as such.
 
I was thinking he should form his own F1 team and eventually be an owner driver.
 
Hun200kmh
I'm totally puzzled by Alonso's post race interview. He is not going to sit in a Merc powered car next year? He will do what's best for himself and Ferrari? When people het the news he can't give now we will all realize it was "obvious"?


Wot?
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That sounds like he's staying with Ferrari.
 
So Vettel to McLaren doesn't sound as crazy as it did before.
 
European F3 champion Esteban Ocon has been linked to a role with Lotus next year - though whether it's a race seat or a reserve role remains to be seen.
 
I don't see Grosjean leaving Lotus, even if he hasn't been happy with the power units since they are switching the Mercedes next year, and any move at this point wouldn't be beneficial as there aren't any good seats available that aren't going to Vettel and Alonso.
 
It's possible that he could consider going somewhere like the WEC.

The only plausible moves that I could see are Force India if Hulkenberg leaves, or Sauber if he can get a Sutil-level budget together.

He could feasibly keep his seat and have Maldonado replaced by Ocon, since although Maldonado brings sponsorship, most of that money has probably been spent on repairing Maldonado's car by now.

Otherwise, I think he would fit right in at Williams or McLaren - he's quick, after all; he's just been let down by a very bad chassis.
 
He is pretty good in sports cars, forgot about that.

Both Williams seats are still open for next season at this point?
 
Massa's contract is quite expensive though for williams I can't see it happening.

Massa must be providing lots of sponsership to williams because I don't see why they where in such a hurry to resign him, as he has been average this year considering the car and his team mate.
 
I wonder if Dean Stoneman has a chance of getting a seat next year, after his cancer issues and being out of action for well over a year then to come back In his first full season and be fighting for the GP3 Title in the final race, surely shows some potential.
 
mustafur
Palmer has been in GP2 for several seasons now so unless he has enough money I doubt he will get in.
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He has money and contacts - his dad's Jonathan Palmer, part of the Brundle/Hill/Herbert/Warwick cohort that holds a lot of sway in the British Racing Drivers Club.

For some reason though he isn't setting the F1 world alight, I think that's a mix of his attitude and the lack of any real difference between him and someone else with a lot of talent. It's just not enough talent for F1 perhaps.
 
If you look to GP2, the really impressive performers this year were Vandoorne and, to a lesser extent Marciello. Then you've got the likes of Evans and Nasr who have potential, but probably need another season to be fully refined. And then there's Cecotto, who despite being in the sport for five years, really improved his driving standards this year and proved to be fairly quick. I'd consider all of them before Palmer, who is in the Paul di Resta camp of not being as good as he thinks he is.

But maybe I'm biased. His reaction to Max Verstappen getting a Toro Rosso seat was disgusting. Where everyone else congratulated and celebrated him, Palmer was an arsehole about it on Twitter. His jealousy was palpable.
 
Maybe not by a smaller, cash-strapped team like Marussia or Caterham. And his ability to refine his style and develop discipline are huge points in his favour.
 
prisonermonkeys
If you look to GP2, the really impressive performers this year were Vandoorne and, to a lesser extent Marciello. Then you've got the likes of Evans and Nasr who have potential, but probably need another season to be fully refined. And then there's Cecotto, who despite being in the sport for five years, really improved his driving standards this year and proved to be fairly quick. I'd consider all of them before Palmer, who is in the Paul di Resta camp of not being as good as he thinks he is.

But maybe I'm biased. His reaction to Max Verstappen getting a Toro Rosso seat was disgusting. Where everyone else congratulated and celebrated him, Palmer was an arsehole about it on Twitter. His jealousy was palpable.
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Tbh just because someone is a jealous dick doesn't make them less impressive, I would rate his year Similar to Whitmanns in DTM, unimpressive before 2014(even lost to drivers such as Marcus ericsson in the same team in 2012), to sudden Dominator.

I Would Rate Sainz Jnr, Pierre Gasly, Robert Merhi ahead of all the GP2 Drivers this year anyway.
 
True, but it speaks volumes as to how he will interact with others, such as the team. What if he's in a small team, fighting for every point they can get, but his team-mate is getting better results, so the team makes the decision to dedicate more resources to that driver? It has the makings of another Maldonado meltdown.

He's always struck me as an "everybody's fault but mine" type of driver - happy to take credit, but unwilling to hear criticism or accept responsibility.
 
prisonermonkeys
True, but it speaks volumes as to how he will interact with others, such as the team. What if he's in a small team, fighting for every point they can get, but his team-mate is getting better results, so the team makes the decision to dedicate more resources to that driver? It has the makings of another Maldonado meltdown

He's always struck me as an "everybody's fault but mine" type of driver - happy to take credit, but unwilling to hear criticism or accept responsibility.
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it's just a bit overwhelming for him understandably, he hasn't grasped the concept of getting in by merit rather then via Palmer Family money.

What makes the whole situation funnier is it's over a seat he was never in contention for in the first place.
 
I don't think he's jealous that he missed out on the Toro Rosso seat - I think he's jealous that Verstappen got a seat before he did.
 
Having met the guy, he is no better in person. James Calado has a similar characteristic to him, he was very clearly annoyed about Max Chilton getting the Marussia drive ahead of himself.

You can understand why drivers are getting frustrated with the system, but they knew how it worked when they joined the motorsport ladder. Hiding those feelings in front of the media and fans does go a long way to proving they should be in a seat, it is business after all.
 
pezzarinho17
You can understand why drivers are getting frustrated with the system, but they knew how it worked when they joined the motorsport ladder.
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It's one thing to be annoyed that the system enables under-talented drivers like Chilton to essentially engage in wish fulfilment at the expense of those who deserve to be considered on merit. But it's another thing entirely to launch an attack on a driver who has made a convincing case for their inclusion when you yourself are the lesser-quality driver.
 
^ There's a race driver who doesn't believe with every fiber of his being that he's the best driver on the grid?
 
mustafur
I Would Rate Sainz Jnr, Pierre Gasly, Robert Merhi ahead of all the GP2 Drivers this year anyway.
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Quite the paradox, as Gasly is a GP2 driver himself (back of the grid type) for the second half of this year.

And I have trouble agreeing. Just last year, Merhi was rubbish in DTM and Sainz was average in GP3. Suddenly, they are great when they are up against big car rookies (Gasly, Rowland) and unimpressive journeymen (Jafaar, Amberg, Stockinger, Fantin, etc). Not buying it.

For me, the last couple of meets have raised Vandoorne significantly (from a good rookie, to one of the best in the field) and is now the best prospect on the doorstep of F1 to me. Evans and Nasr are very good also, I'd rate these two on the same plane as Sainz, Gasly (who needs more time) and maybe Rowland. Marciello is obviously very talented, his performance at Spa race 1 was jaw dropping (made Vandoorne look average at his home track), but he clearly needs another year or two. His racecraft was very average (at least compared to his phenomenal pace) in F3 and it has been further exposed in his first year of GP2.
 
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