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Feel bad for him, he's a classy driver that was just stuck behind one of the best partnerships there is and now a young talent who could go on to be one of the best in F1.

McLaren are really spoiled with drivers for a team that doesn't finish races.
 
Feel bad for him, he's a classy driver that was just stuck behind one of the best partnerships there is and now a young talent who could go on to be one of the best in F1.

McLaren are really spoiled with drivers for a team that doesn't finish races.

Which honestly is surprising considering most people think it's RB that are the spoiled ones. However, you hit the nail on the head. McLaren always seem to think they can have their cake and eat it and this is usually at the expense of those driving for them.
 
I'm a little confused by this announcement. Is it simply stating he will not be McLaren's reserve driver next year and is still after (or signed behind closed doors) a 2016 race seat, or has he left McLaren's development program altogether?
 
I'm a little confused by this announcement. Is it simply stating he will not be McLaren's reserve driver next year and is still after (or signed behind closed doors) a 2016 race seat, or has he left McLaren's development program altogether?
Pretty sure he's left them entirely. It would free up his ability to join another team like Lotus/Renault or Haas.
 
In other news, according to Autosport, Bernie says that the Red Bull fiasco has been "sorted", and that Red Bull will not be leaving F1. There's also the slightly-disappointing-but-not-so-surprising item that the engine freeze idea is a bust and engine development will be allowed in 2016. Both of these are from Autosport, and have not been formally announced as true, but in the world of F1, there aren't a lot of genuine, "didn't see that coming" swerves in the political heap, which means that it essentially will be true.
 
I always thought he would be free to race for someone else despite being a McLaren driver, but I guess I also see previous statements from McLaren in a different light too. I saw headlines stating McLaren would not block a move for Magnussen to find a race seat, and believed it just meant a) there was no McLaren race seat available for him, and b) it was up to Magnussen to find a drive rather than the team buying him a slot somewhere on the grid.
 
Magnussen has been linked to other teams - namely Haas and Lotus/Renault, but I suppose Manor is also an option - in the past, and McLaren have said that they will support his move to another team. Reading some of Magnussen's comments on being let go, he doesn't seem too broken up about it, even if it came on his birthday - so I wonder if there is something more to this, that Magnussen knows where he is going in 2016. After all, his birthday was on the 5th, but his departure was only made public on the 16th.
 
I suppose it depends on which one brings the most money. Outside of that I'd choose Magnussen.
 
Haas have dropped their strongest hint yet that Gutierrez will be in their second seat for 2016. They want someone who brings money, is North American and has F1 race experience. Sky.
 
Latest stupid rumour that I have heard is that because Lotus signed Maldona-do'h! and Joly, Joly, Joly, Joly-on*, Renault will void the contracts once they take over. Which is stupid because it would open Renault to litigation. And also stupid because it's Maldona-do'h! and Joly, Joly, Joly, Joly-on.

* Sing it to the tune of Dolly Parton's "Jolene".

That remainds me - we really need a Jolyon Palmer name pun thread.
 
I can only assume that Renault are planning to do a Honda and spend 2016 (re-)building the team up. Which seems like a really unwise choice.

I don't see why, it worked for other works teams most notably Mercedes and Ferrari. Only difference is those two had a mass restructure of staff only, while still holding great drivers. So yeah Lotus done goof'd here with the drivers, but if the idea is to rebuild to mount an offensive for '17, history shows us this isn't a bad idea.
 
So yeah Lotus done goof'd here with the drivers, but if the idea is to rebuild to mount an offensive for '17, history shows us this isn't a bad idea.
The only way it really makes sense is if Renault think that the chassis development is fairly stable - and it is, to a point; the E23 can score points - and that the engine needs a push. In the meantime, the spend Palmer and Maldonado's money, and then jettison them at the first opportunity. Nobody will miss Maldonado too much and I don't think anybody expects anything of Palmer. Off-track, they latch onto promising young talent; Ocon, Rosenqvist, Lynn or Vaxiviere spring to mind. The catch is that when Honda settled on 2015 as a development year, they still went all in on Alonso and Button.
 
The only way it really makes sense is if Renault think that the chassis development is fairly stable - and it is, to a point; the E23 can score points - and that the engine needs a push. In the meantime, the spend Palmer and Maldonado's money, and then jettison them at the first opportunity. Nobody will miss Maldonado too much and I don't think anybody expects anything of Palmer. Off-track, they latch onto promising young talent; Ocon, Rosenqvist, Lynn or Vaxiviere spring to mind. The catch is that when Honda settled on 2015 as a development year, they still went all in on Alonso and Button.

Which is what I said and meant with "history shows us" and "restructuring of staff, while holding great drivers", same for 2013 with Mercedes and the great shifts Ferrari made last year.
 
Everyone who thinks Julie Anne Palmer will fail in F1 need to learn some history of F1 drivers. There are driver who excelled in lower formula only to fail in F1. There are drivers who under performed in lower formula and flower in F1.
 
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