The General Airplane Thread

Discussion in 'The Rumble Strip' started by Crash, Jun 14, 2013.

  1. mazda787

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    Some more spotting by Dulles, including a Retro livery United A320:

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  2. Rage Racer

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    I've posted my photos from Zhukovsky airfield in 2017 earlier...
    ...but there are some that I haven't. I'll share them until they are deleted from my Flickr (I backed them up already).

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    Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29LL (Gromov Institute ver.)
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    MiG-29LL - the "flying lab" of the Gromov Flight Research Institute. Carries personal name "Vitaly Popkov" after the WWII ace.

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    MiG-27 ground attacker. All MiG-27's in Russia were decomissoned in the '90s due to lack of funds to maintain them, and most were scrapped. This one is a rare survivor.
    The only current operators are India and Kazakhstan.

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    MiG-21UM - a 2-seat trainer version of the famous MiG-21 fighter.

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    Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG 1.44 MFI
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    This is a unique one. A prototype of the MFI - the Soviet project of 5th generation fighter that was cancelled after the country's collapse and never launched into serial production. The Mikoyan Design Bureau continued working on it in the late '90s, and this 1.44 prototype made its first flight in 2000, but the project was closed later. Some experts assume that MiG sold the MFI design data to the Chinese, who used it in the development of their Chengdu J-20.

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    Sukhoi Su-15UM
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    The 2-seat trainer variant of the Su-15 interceptor that is infamous for downing the Korean Boeing near Sakhalin in 1983.

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    Sukhoi Su-17
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    Su-17M4 to be more accurate. A fighter-bomber that was widely used in the Afghan war.

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    Myasishchev VM-T Atlant
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    Myasishchev VM-T Atlant
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    A transport derivative of the 3M bomber developed for carrying oversize cargo (such as spaceship parts).

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    Tupolev Tu-144D
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    Tupolev Tu-144D
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    The world's first supersonic airliner (the Concorde was the first to enter commercial service, but the Tu-144 made its first flight earlier).
    It's restored for display. Unfortunately, I didn't get inside, the queue was too big.

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    Tupolev Tu-144LL
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    Another "flying lab" that was used by NASA for research in the late '90s, now rests in this condition. Some sources say it can still be restored to airworthy condition.
     
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  3. CLowndes888

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    What the heck is that massive bubble sitting on top?
     
  4. Rage Racer

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    Cargo container for large things that can't be carred by a normal transport plane. Like, oxygen tank or engine compartment of Energia space rocket.
     
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  5. wfooshee

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    In the west, we build an airplane that can actually contain the cargo...

    Super Guppy. Before this one there was the Pregnant Guppy, which I actually saw when I was a kid.
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  6. LMSCorvetteGT2

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    Yep and we also did this (this is more for CLowndes really) as a external transport craft
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  7. wfooshee

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    Yeah, but that's using the cargo to generate some of its own lift, so it's cheating... :)

    (I really don't know how much lift the shuttle's wings contribute to the package, I just wanted to accuse!)
     
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  8. GTV0819

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    Lol I don't know why but when I see this picture, this one usually gets in my mind. :lol:

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  9. LMSCorvetteGT2

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    They don't generate that much lift actually. While it may of been a space plane in some regards, it wasn't very good on the plane aspect of things.
     
  10. CLowndes888

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    It would be truly awful for aerodynamics.
     
  11. LMSCorvetteGT2

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    How so? It flew, from what I've read it didn't cause any major GNC issues or at least I haven't found any yet from this and similar planes. To be honest it's similar to seeing one of these fly in the sky (which I have)

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    In all honesty I'd probably be a bit more worried about the flight dynamic changes via performance aspect
     
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  12. TenEightyOne

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    Nah, just pricey on fuel. Not usually a problem for military aircraft :D
     
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  13. Rage Racer

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    - Vladimir, we need a plane to carry outsize cargo to Baikonur Cosmodrome. Really outsize.
    - It would be truly awful for aerodynamics.
    - But you're a communist, Vladimir!
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    The VM-T (named after its designer, Vladimir Myasishchev) has outstanding maximum lift-to-drag ratio (about 18), and with cargo attached, the L/D is about 12, which is still decent for a transport plane.

    Interstingly, the Atlant used to carry a spaceship airframe, too (for Buran):
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  14. CLowndes888

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    That is just hilariously goofy.:lol::lol::lol::lol: At least the space shuttle doesn't look as obnoxious...
     
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  15. wfooshee

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    Those radomes don't present anything like the drag of that... thing on top of the Atlant! :)
     
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  16. mazda787

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    Finally got one of the BA retro livery 747s, G-BYGC heading towards Dulles Airport:

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    This was at least a few months ago on a walk with the dogs, but spotted a Bone on approach to land at Tinker Air Force Base.

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  18. GTV0819

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    It seems to glide and roll flawlessly.
     
  19. Venom800tt

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    Bones fly like oversized fighters, given their aerobatic abilities lol. They are also silly loud. :eek:
     
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  20. Brett

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    They do.

    Yes they are.
     
  21. wfooshee

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    Old enough to be 480 resolution and 4:3, but... from an airshow in 2003. A 30-degree climb, rolling to inverted at the top. (Maybe these things don't do neg-g pushovers well. :) ) And it's the only thing I ever saw that was louder than an F-14!

     
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  22. GTV0819

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    I almost thought it was a Concorde in side view. :lol:
     
  23. Vegard

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    Earporn:



    Edit: skip to 3:36 to hear her howl.
     
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  24. TenEightyOne

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    I saw an SR-71 at Finningley in the 1980s, I had never heard anything like it and haven't since. It was before the "new" airshow rules too, riiiiiight over the crowd in full showmode. Liquidised my interior parts.
     
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  25. Populuxe Cowboy

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    I saw an SR-71 land at Nellis AFB back around 1988 when I was stationed there. It went straight from the runway and into a hanger with no stops in between. There were many armed airmen in view.

    My favorite was getting to see an active duty Canberra bomber land when I was stationed at RAF Upper Heyford in England in 1982. It suffered a birdstrike to the cockpit. No injuries, but it was forced to land immediately, and our little air base was the closest. I still think it's one of the most beautiful bombers ever built.
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  26. wfooshee

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    You won't be interested in this, then... A B-57 on static display on the lawn of the Air Force Armament Museum outside of Eglin AFB in Ft. Walton, FL., where you can just walk right up to it.

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  28. Vegard

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    It's a beauty, that's for sure.

    I noticed a funny detail; it looks like it's wearing old fashioned flying goggles in that picture. Am I alone in seeing it?
     
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    I can't see it :)

    There's a Canberra at the Yorkshire Air Museum in Elvington, there's a cockpit day coming up... I don't know if the 'Berry is included but I'll give it a go :D
     
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  30. Populuxe Cowboy

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    The example I posted is WJ874, a T4 trainer variant with dual controls, so it was likely produced in 1953 or 1954. It's been painted to represent the first prototype Canberra, VN799 when it flew for the first time on 13 May 1949 at Warton airfield where it had been built.