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@MoLiEG

I didn't even have to read the whole post to realize that you should break up.

To be frank and to the point, you're a fool if you continue that relationship.

(As for my end, there's stuff going on, but I don't feel like explaining it at the moment. It's nothing bad.)
 
So today my cousin got married and I would be lying if I said I wasn't envious of him and his bride as a couple. They're both beautiful people, she looked absolutely gorgeous and he was looking the most handsome I had ever seen. They both have great careers going already and so long as neither of them screw up big time they'll be together until they die. These two people could not possibly have a better looking future unless they win the lottery, they are pretty well literally perfect for each other and I could not be happier for them. I didn't get much time with them but the day was clearly made to be theirs and they are probably just ecstatic with how it went. When I wasn't listening to speeches or eating the awesome food they chose, I was sat there making a bit of a mental checklist because I know I'm going to marry my girlfriend and the way this went I would have been just as happy as they were if our wedding was exactly the same. Now, I'm a sap, so now that you know that you won't be surprised to know that when anyone was speaking and they started welling up that I did too. All of them were well thought and written out and had things I did not know about each of them. It was a great day and by god I hope sometime soon we get to have as amazing a day as they did.
 
@MoLiEG

I didn't even have to read the whole post to realize that you should break up.

To be frank and to the point, you're a fool if you continue that relationship.

(As for my end, there's stuff going on, but I don't feel like explaining it at the moment. It's nothing bad.)

Yeah, I know. This thing went too far I guess. Too much violence from her side.

As an update, she is no longer as hostile as she was some days ago. I'm seeing her on the weekend to talk a little bit... I'm firm on my position, I'm done with the fighting and the false accusations and being treated like gargabe. I want someone who really values me and everything I do by my side. I already put my resignation on the table, I want out if this goes on.

Also, she cooled down so much she even said she was sorry... something very strange coming from her.

Let's see how sorry she is.
 
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She said she wanted to continue on the condition she could "do the same as me and see and kiss other people". I said "Fine, I'll give you the tracking number for my things. I'm done."

She said: "I thought you cared about this", I said "well yeah, but you are wrong and that's not the way to solve this. I'm out. I'm done, I'll send you the tracking number."

"I'm sorry, I was very harsh", she said. And I'm sorry, too. But that "being just a free", won't happen. "You want a relationship? Good. I do, too. But I'm tired of fighting and being the bad man and being the one that has to do the sacrifice of making things happen. 99% of Earth's population would NOT get mad for almost all the so called wrong things I did. You want me to fight for this? Give me a freaking reason."

I'm in as long as she is for a change. A complete one. I think I deserve a fair treatment, compassion and consideration.
 
She said she wanted to continue on the condition she could "do the same as me and see and kiss other people". I said "Fine, I'll give you the tracking number for my things. I'm done."

She said: "I thought you cared about this", I said "well yeah, but you are wrong and that's not the way to solve this. I'm out. I'm done, I'll send you the tracking number."

"I'm sorry, I was very harsh", she said. And I'm sorry, too. But that "being just a free", won't happen. "You want a relationship? Good. I do, too. But I'm tired of fighting and being the bad man and being the one that has to do the sacrifice of making things happen. 99% of Earth's population would NOT get mad for almost all the so called wrong things I did. You want me to fight for this? Give me a freaking reason."

I'm in as long as she is for a change. A complete one. I think I deserve a fair treatment, compassion and consideration.
You're doing a pretty good job putting your foot down. But imo I don't think she'll stick to her word for very long. Especially if she wanted:
to continue on the condition she could "do the same as me and see and kiss other people".
 
You're doing a pretty good job putting your foot down. But imo I don't think she'll stick to her word for very long. Especially if she wanted:

She admitted she was very angry at that moment and apologyzed. Still, some people are felling something sinister in her behaviour and that might not be a coincidence (you guys, some friends, even my mother).

No matter what, I'm taking extreme caution with her...
 
She admitted she was very angry at that moment and apologyzed. Still, some people are felling something sinister in her behaviour and that might not be a coincidence (you guys, some friends, even my mother).

No matter what, I'm taking extreme caution with her...
I know you want to stay in the relationship...But if I may be brutally honest, I think it's a lot safer to just up and leave.
 
No matter what, I'm taking extreme caution with her...
What?

I don't even understand why you're still bothering with the 'relationship' in the first place. The problem is, you two say these things now, but you're going to end up running around to the same arguments later on, and next time, it's going to be worse.

It might not be easy going through with finding someone else and leaving someone you thought you loved, but for the sake of your self and her, it's best for you to leave now. The best part is that you'll know the people who are like her and how to avoid and deal with them later on when searching.

Other than this, I have nothing else to say about that. Good luck.

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It's almost like running into a new creative discipline, being given all of the tools to do the job right and ****ing it up completely.

A timeline of situations/events:

- Helped her in ceramics because she was terrible at it. (Didn't think much about her.)

- She overhears my instructor and I talking about cars, asks us if we can work on hers. I say yes, he says yes, so we ask her what's wrong/what it's doing. Her: "It hesitates when I put my foot down. It bounces a lot when I go over bumps and the brakes make grinding noise when I step on the pedal.)"

- She asks me if I'd like to go hiking with her and get lunch with her afterwards (completely random considering I was asking about her car) I embarrass her and make her blush in front of the teacher. She then asks if I and the teacher would like to go to dinner where he lives. Teacher makes a fool of her again and says, literally yelling "THERE'S NOT EVEN PLACES TO EAT WHERE I LIVE BESIDES A MICHELIN STAR RESTAURANT." ($100 plates)

-She asks for my number, sends me a text afterwards.

-Days later, she insists that I add her on Facebook because there was an event going on and she was wondering if I wanted to go after talking about subjects pertaining it. Got annoyed because I didn't send her a friend request right away - Same day, we end up talking in the parking lot well into the night - rinse, repeat.

Not sure what to think of this girl. She's cute, but she's also well achieved and experienced - well passed me. She invited me out places, gave me her number, but I just don't know if I should even attempt.

Partially, I feel this way because she's moving at a completely different pace than I am in life.

Strange things..
 
No matter what, I'm taking extreme caution with her...

Not if you're considering giving her another chance, you're not.

You've got a long, long post history here detailing all of the frankly psychotic things this person has done to you. There have been no signs of remorse about her actions until the threat of you being out of the picture was put on the table.

Take that as a sign.

Note that even now, she's already assuming you've been cheating on her. She's even working that into her bargaining.

Take that as a sign.

Just recently, I watched a very good friend go through a very messy breakup after 8 years. The worst part? It wasn't even good for half of that time. We could almost set our watches to their cycle: argue, argue more, someone threatens to leave, other one promises they'll change, go through a short honeymoon phase, rinse, repeat.

Don't let the fear of having to start over in the relationship world keep you locked into a negative feedback loop. This person is not good for you, and after literal years of abuse, what makes you think that will change?
 
The problem is, you two say these things now, but you're going to end up running around to the same arguments later on, and next time, it's going to be worse.

^This.

Also you said that you do most of this through technology and not in person which doesn't sound healthy as you've been together for a while.
 
The reality is that most relationships aren't going to last forever.

If you leave this relationship, you're going to save yourself time, and you'll open up yourself to meeting potentially better or greater people.

Right now, you're just wasting time.
 
The reality is that most relationships aren't going to last forever.

If you leave this relationship, you're going to save yourself time, and you'll open up yourself to meeting potentially better or greater people.

Right now, you're just wasting time.

You are right.
 
Yeah, I know. This thing went too far I guess. Too much violence from her side.

As an update, she is no longer as hostile as she was some days ago. I'm seeing her on the weekend to talk a little bit... I'm firm on my position, I'm done with the fighting and the false accusations and being treated like gargabe. I want someone who really values me and everything I do by my side. I already put my resignation on the table, I want out if this goes on.

Also, she cooled down so much she even said she was sorry... something very strange coming from her.

Let's see how sorry she is.
I'll echo what everyone else is already saying, get out, get out now and don't look back. People who treat others the way she treated you have a few gears misaligned and they don't change simply by willing themselves to change or simply because someone else, who has taken their abuse like a lap dog for a long time, wants them to. I speak from experience by the way. My ex and her hubby are good friends, I just spent a few days fishing with him alone, and I overheard her talking to him on the phone and it was deja vu all over again. Negative, nasty, abusive, bitter and ending with a hangup, her favourite way to control a conversation. He sucks it up and takes it and sounds whiny and apologetic.....I used to be there a long time ago. Live and learn.
 
I feel like this may be a waste of time, but there's something I see in her that will make it worthwhile if I just work things out over time.

A wonderful person fell into my lap, and all I can feel is wishy washy about wanting to date them.

I suppose there are too many doubts. I can also say that I'm afraid to start anything because the possibility of it all falling apart immediately is quite high.

She's a sophisticated woman, and I'm just some simple guy that's attempting to do something with himself with the likelihood of failure looming in the short distance.

This whole thing feels like a brick wall. I can't get past this.
 
I feel like this may be a waste of time, but there's something I see in her that will make it worthwhile if I just work things out over time.

A wonderful person fell into my lap, and all I can feel is wishy washy about wanting to date them.

I suppose there are too many doubts. I can also say that I'm afraid to start anything because the possibility of it all falling apart immediately is quite high.

She's a sophisticated woman, and I'm just some simple guy that's attempting to do something with himself with the likelihood of failure looming in the short distance.

This whole thing feels like a brick wall. I can't get past this.

Woah O.o
 
I'm very frustrated with the way things have been handled between her and I.

She did and said some things that made me seriously question her and her intentions. I'm having a hard time accepting her apologies, and partially, it's because I have a hard time figuring out if someone is actually truthful.

I'm not going into any details as to what happened because it's a story i don't feel like bothering with anymore.

The story only further shows how much of a mess I am. She really embarrassed me.

It's a shame I feel this way. Her beauty is the only thing that is keeping me going her way. She's not hot, sexy etc.

Just beautiful in her own ways. I just hope this isn't a mistake.
 
I'm very frustrated with the way things have been handled between her and I.

She did and said some things that made me seriously question her and her intentions. I'm having a hard time accepting her apologies, and partially, it's because I have a hard time figuring out if someone is actually truthful.

I'm not going into any details as to what happened because it's a story i don't feel like bothering with anymore.

The story only further shows how much of a mess I am. She really embarrassed me.

It's a shame I feel this way. Her beauty is the only thing that is keeping me going her way. She's not hot, sexy etc.

Just beautiful in her own ways. I just hope this isn't a mistake.
Was the embarrassment intentional or malicious? An oversight perhaps? Lack of attention to some detail?
 
Neither would I. My guess is that they have been together for a while and he has some happy memories with her and is trying to get them back. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong @MoLiEG

Sorry for another long silence. I've been trying to figure out many things and doing things my way...

More or less... I mean, things have worked fine, we've had wonderful times... And we've talked and agreed we want more of those moments, do things together, be together and stuff...

So I went to see her and talk on weekend after a week or so talking via phone...

We again, now face to face, talked about what happened, talked about our future, if she still wants a future of course... she again, said she was sorry about all the horrible things she said to me, her "let's be a free" idea, and that she wanted everything to be normal again... she said she also wanted us to move on from this, forget what happened and be better couple, with better comunication... and I said "well, marvelous, first of all, we really have to trust each other, you need to cool down about a few things, you need to stop getting mad about this, and this and this, you need to stop doing things that hurt me, I'm going to tell you from now on how I feel if you do or say things that hurt me, I wan't things to work and really be better, and most importantly, I want fights to end..."

She, again, said she was sorry, and that she wanted us to visit a psichiatrist to heal the wounds of not only the recent fight, but all the previous ones. Also, she said she wanted this so she or she could help us to communicate better, and without hurting each other... I said I'd look for some options, but also told her we don't really need it. All we have to do is talk like grown up people... and solve things like normal people...

Everything has been ok for about 10 days... Not only things reverted to what I would call "normal", but I really feel that vibe I felt back when there were no problems... everything is, well, very good... had a nice day outside the city on Saturday... everything has been unusually fine (I say that because for almost the entire year, the cicle has been 3 days are good days, 3 days are meh, 4 or more days we fight, 3 or four days are bad, repeat, exactly what @SlipZtrEm said...)

However, it seems has already forgotten everything we talked... because she reverted to her former self again on Monday...

On Monday she complained I didn't told her I'm going to have a day off next week and that I always hide things. I did not told her because I did not know the exact date until, well, Monday. On Sunday she asked me if I was going to have a day off next week because here in México we celebrate "Dia de Muertos", and told her I was going to investigate because I wasn't sure...

Yesterday complained about why I haven't gifted her a Tifanny necklace she saw time ago on their website, said that she wasn't going to wait for a man to give her everything and that she deserved the very best... and today, well, treated me like garbage because I didn't checked a facebook post on her profile yesterday... about the necklace...

So yeah, so much of her being sorry and 🤬...

I told her I was not going to tolerate things like that... so she's going to hear me...

Finally, I'm starting to think I might need to go to the psychiatrist by myself... since I think I need help to accept this might be going nowhere...
 
However, it seems has already forgotten everything we talked... because she reverted to her former self again on Monday...

On Monday she complained I didn't told her I'm going to have a day off next week and that I always hide things. I did not told her because I did not know the exact date until, well, Monday. On Sunday she asked me if I was going to have a day off next week because here in México we celebrate "Dia de Muertos", and told her I was going to investigate because I wasn't sure...

Yep, That always seems to be the way. People will promise they will change, but they will almost always revert back to old habits after a day or two.

Myself and others here probably wouldn't have given her another chance, but I respect the fact that you did, and now you have a definite answer.

Yesterday complained about why I haven't gifted her a Tifanny necklace she saw time ago on their website, said that she wasn't going to wait for a man to give her everything and that she deserved the very best... and today, well, treated me like garbage because I didn't checked a facebook post on her profile yesterday... about the necklace...

So yeah, so much of her being sorry and 🤬...

I told her I was not going to tolerate things like that... so she's going to hear me...

Finally, I'm starting to think I might need to go to the psychiatrist by myself... since I think I need help to accept this might be going nowhere...

Oh God. I actually have nightmares about being in relationships like that.
 
Sorry for another long silence. I've been trying to figure out many things and doing things my way...

More or less... I mean, things have worked fine, we've had wonderful times... And we've talked and agreed we want more of those moments, do things together, be together and stuff...

So I went to see her and talk on weekend after a week or so talking via phone...

We again, now face to face, talked about what happened, talked about our future, if she still wants a future of course... she again, said she was sorry about all the horrible things she said to me, her "let's be a free" idea, and that she wanted everything to be normal again... she said she also wanted us to move on from this, forget what happened and be better couple, with better comunication... and I said "well, marvelous, first of all, we really have to trust each other, you need to cool down about a few things, you need to stop getting mad about this, and this and this, you need to stop doing things that hurt me, I'm going to tell you from now on how I feel if you do or say things that hurt me, I wan't things to work and really be better, and most importantly, I want fights to end..."

She, again, said she was sorry, and that she wanted us to visit a psichiatrist to heal the wounds of not only the recent fight, but all the previous ones. Also, she said she wanted this so she or she could help us to communicate better, and without hurting each other... I said I'd look for some options, but also told her we don't really need it. All we have to do is talk like grown up people... and solve things like normal people...

Everything has been ok for about 10 days... Not only things reverted to what I would call "normal", but I really feel that vibe I felt back when there were no problems... everything is, well, very good... had a nice day outside the city on Saturday... everything has been unusually fine (I say that because for almost the entire year, the cicle has been 3 days are good days, 3 days are meh, 4 or more days we fight, 3 or four days are bad, repeat, exactly what @SlipZtrEm said...)

However, it seems has already forgotten everything we talked... because she reverted to her former self again on Monday...

On Monday she complained I didn't told her I'm going to have a day off next week and that I always hide things. I did not told her because I did not know the exact date until, well, Monday. On Sunday she asked me if I was going to have a day off next week because here in México we celebrate "Dia de Muertos", and told her I was going to investigate because I wasn't sure...

Yesterday complained about why I haven't gifted her a Tifanny necklace she saw time ago on their website, said that she wasn't going to wait for a man to give her everything and that she deserved the very best... and today, well, treated me like garbage because I didn't checked a facebook post on her profile yesterday... about the necklace...

So yeah, so much of her being sorry and 🤬...

I told her I was not going to tolerate things like that... so she's going to hear me...

Finally, I'm starting to think I might need to go to the psychiatrist by myself... since I think I need help to accept this might be going nowhere...
Now you have your answer. And now, get the hell away from her.
 
Sorry for another long silence. I've been trying to figure out many things and doing things my way...

More or less... I mean, things have worked fine, we've had wonderful times... And we've talked and agreed we want more of those moments, do things together, be together and stuff...

So I went to see her and talk on weekend after a week or so talking via phone...

We again, now face to face, talked about what happened, talked about our future, if she still wants a future of course... she again, said she was sorry about all the horrible things she said to me, her "let's be a free" idea, and that she wanted everything to be normal again... she said she also wanted us to move on from this, forget what happened and be better couple, with better comunication... and I said "well, marvelous, first of all, we really have to trust each other, you need to cool down about a few things, you need to stop getting mad about this, and this and this, you need to stop doing things that hurt me, I'm going to tell you from now on how I feel if you do or say things that hurt me, I wan't things to work and really be better, and most importantly, I want fights to end..."

She, again, said she was sorry, and that she wanted us to visit a psichiatrist to heal the wounds of not only the recent fight, but all the previous ones. Also, she said she wanted this so she or she could help us to communicate better, and without hurting each other... I said I'd look for some options, but also told her we don't really need it. All we have to do is talk like grown up people... and solve things like normal people...

Everything has been ok for about 10 days... Not only things reverted to what I would call "normal", but I really feel that vibe I felt back when there were no problems... everything is, well, very good... had a nice day outside the city on Saturday... everything has been unusually fine (I say that because for almost the entire year, the cicle has been 3 days are good days, 3 days are meh, 4 or more days we fight, 3 or four days are bad, repeat, exactly what @SlipZtrEm said...)

However, it seems has already forgotten everything we talked... because she reverted to her former self again on Monday...

On Monday she complained I didn't told her I'm going to have a day off next week and that I always hide things. I did not told her because I did not know the exact date until, well, Monday. On Sunday she asked me if I was going to have a day off next week because here in México we celebrate "Dia de Muertos", and told her I was going to investigate because I wasn't sure...

Yesterday complained about why I haven't gifted her a Tifanny necklace she saw time ago on their website, said that she wasn't going to wait for a man to give her everything and that she deserved the very best... and today, well, treated me like garbage because I didn't checked a facebook post on her profile yesterday... about the necklace...

So yeah, so much of her being sorry and 🤬...

I told her I was not going to tolerate things like that... so she's going to hear me...

Finally, I'm starting to think I might need to go to the psychiatrist by myself... since I think I need help to accept this might be going nowhere...
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Sorry for another long silence. I've been trying to figure out many things and doing things my way...

More or less... I mean, things have worked fine, we've had wonderful times... And we've talked and agreed we want more of those moments, do things together, be together and stuff...

So I went to see her and talk on weekend after a week or so talking via phone...

We again, now face to face, talked about what happened, talked about our future, if she still wants a future of course... she again, said she was sorry about all the horrible things she said to me, her "let's be a free" idea, and that she wanted everything to be normal again... she said she also wanted us to move on from this, forget what happened and be better couple, with better comunication... and I said "well, marvelous, first of all, we really have to trust each other, you need to cool down about a few things, you need to stop getting mad about this, and this and this, you need to stop doing things that hurt me, I'm going to tell you from now on how I feel if you do or say things that hurt me, I wan't things to work and really be better, and most importantly, I want fights to end..."

She, again, said she was sorry, and that she wanted us to visit a psichiatrist to heal the wounds of not only the recent fight, but all the previous ones. Also, she said she wanted this so she or she could help us to communicate better, and without hurting each other... I said I'd look for some options, but also told her we don't really need it. All we have to do is talk like grown up people... and solve things like normal people...

Everything has been ok for about 10 days... Not only things reverted to what I would call "normal", but I really feel that vibe I felt back when there were no problems... everything is, well, very good... had a nice day outside the city on Saturday... everything has been unusually fine (I say that because for almost the entire year, the cicle has been 3 days are good days, 3 days are meh, 4 or more days we fight, 3 or four days are bad, repeat, exactly what @SlipZtrEm said...)

However, it seems has already forgotten everything we talked... because she reverted to her former self again on Monday...

On Monday she complained I didn't told her I'm going to have a day off next week and that I always hide things. I did not told her because I did not know the exact date until, well, Monday. On Sunday she asked me if I was going to have a day off next week because here in México we celebrate "Dia de Muertos", and told her I was going to investigate because I wasn't sure...

Yesterday complained about why I haven't gifted her a Tifanny necklace she saw time ago on their website, said that she wasn't going to wait for a man to give her everything and that she deserved the very best... and today, well, treated me like garbage because I didn't checked a facebook post on her profile yesterday... about the necklace...

So yeah, so much of her being sorry and 🤬...

I told her I was not going to tolerate things like that... so she's going to hear me...

Finally, I'm starting to think I might need to go to the psychiatrist by myself... since I think I need help to accept this might be going nowhere...
As I said above:
People who treat others the way she treated you have a few gears misaligned and they don't change simply by willing themselves to change or simply because someone else, who has taken their abuse like a lap dog for a long time, wants them to.
The part about the Tiffany necklace would make me want to leave all by itself. The arrogance, the sense of entitlement, the elevated importance on material things...all huge turnoffs for me. She is a bottomless pit of self centredness and she's sucked you into the vortex. Get out while you still have your own sanity and while it doesn't ruin your approach to the next relationship.
 
The part about the Tiffany necklace would make me want to leave all by itself. The arrogance, the sense of entitlement, the elevated importance on material things...all huge turnoffs for me. She is a bottomless pit of self centredness and she's sucked you into the vortex. Get out while you still have your own sanity and while it doesn't ruin your approach to the next relationship.

This! This! This! ^^^^

I would buy my girlfriend/fiance/wife expensive things for her birthday, Christmas, aniversaries, and valantines day, but I'd be so pissed if she demmaned that I buy her expensive things just because she wants them. That's just selfish and greedy.
 
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Was the embarrassment intentional or malicious? An oversight perhaps? Lack of attention to some detail?
A complete oversight and lack of intention. She apologized then tried to use my embarrassment and her mishandling of the situation as a lesson on why I should have things together.

She's in Paris. I haven't spoken to her since last week.
 
Sorry for another long silence. I've been trying to figure out many things and doing things my way...

More or less... I mean, things have worked fine, we've had wonderful times... And we've talked and agreed we want more of those moments, do things together, be together and stuff...

So I went to see her and talk on weekend after a week or so talking via phone...

We again, now face to face, talked about what happened, talked about our future, if she still wants a future of course... she again, said she was sorry about all the horrible things she said to me, her "let's be a free" idea, and that she wanted everything to be normal again... she said she also wanted us to move on from this, forget what happened and be better couple, with better comunication... and I said "well, marvelous, first of all, we really have to trust each other, you need to cool down about a few things, you need to stop getting mad about this, and this and this, you need to stop doing things that hurt me, I'm going to tell you from now on how I feel if you do or say things that hurt me, I wan't things to work and really be better, and most importantly, I want fights to end..."

She, again, said she was sorry, and that she wanted us to visit a psichiatrist to heal the wounds of not only the recent fight, but all the previous ones. Also, she said she wanted this so she or she could help us to communicate better, and without hurting each other... I said I'd look for some options, but also told her we don't really need it. All we have to do is talk like grown up people... and solve things like normal people...

Everything has been ok for about 10 days... Not only things reverted to what I would call "normal", but I really feel that vibe I felt back when there were no problems... everything is, well, very good... had a nice day outside the city on Saturday... everything has been unusually fine (I say that because for almost the entire year, the cicle has been 3 days are good days, 3 days are meh, 4 or more days we fight, 3 or four days are bad, repeat, exactly what @SlipZtrEm said...)

However, it seems has already forgotten everything we talked... because she reverted to her former self again on Monday...

On Monday she complained I didn't told her I'm going to have a day off next week and that I always hide things. I did not told her because I did not know the exact date until, well, Monday. On Sunday she asked me if I was going to have a day off next week because here in México we celebrate "Dia de Muertos", and told her I was going to investigate because I wasn't sure...

Yesterday complained about why I haven't gifted her a Tifanny necklace she saw time ago on their website, said that she wasn't going to wait for a man to give her everything and that she deserved the very best... and today, well, treated me like garbage because I didn't checked a facebook post on her profile yesterday... about the necklace...

So yeah, so much of her being sorry and 🤬...

I told her I was not going to tolerate things like that... so she's going to hear me...

Finally, I'm starting to think I might need to go to the psychiatrist by myself... since I think I need help to accept this might be going nowhere...

You're really a sucker for punishment. You don't want to be treated like garbage put you keep hanging out with the garbage man.
 
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