The General Relationship Thread

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Question:
Would you break up with your girlfriend if you can't see the relationship working in 10 years?
No, because it's pretty much unforseeable what'll be in ten years. You might think differently about your relationship and what it has become when that time comes.

If you can't see it working out in ten weeks, or maybe ten months, though... That's when I'd consider breaking up.
 
I do consider a friendship to be a relationship as well. I have never ever been in a "girlfriend / boyfriend" relationship, but I have many female friends... In fact my best friend is a girl... Which means to some idiots that its a "love" relationship :grumpy: idiots...

Same issue I deal with all the time nowadays - I do have a girlfriend, but more than half of my friends (the ones I actually talk to, discuss with, etc) are girls.

This doesn't mean I'm gay or I'm a womanizer. :indiff:

Once public opinion of you starts to form, it takes a lot of effort to change it, and it's really difficult to do so.
 
Johnnypenso
Not sure what the problem is here. If you're attracted to G1 as her out. If she says no, ask out G2. If you're just dating and not serious, ask them both out. Did I miss something?...lol.

Word of advice to you young guys as I've seen this in numerous posts and hear it from young guys around me. Stop with this whole, "I've got to tell her how I feel(express my feelings etc.)" business. Unless you're 15, many women find it a little creepy that you have feelings for them when you haven't dated and don't know each other in that way. And the truth is, if you haven't dated or spent a lot of time together, the feelings you have are just lust, which is perfectly fine.

Try to show, not tell. Show her you care with your actions. Words are cheap. Save the fancy words and flowery language for special occasions and it'll be that more meaningful to her.

Good advice man. I'm not one for feelings honestly. I'll try to show instead of tell from now on.
 
She is my best friend I can't not really. :lol:

But it is looking up a girl I sit in front of in English seems as if she may like me. Coincidently the same friend I really liked was talking to her in tutor (we're in different tutors) and the girl said, while talking about me, "I'm in love with his personality." so my friend jokingly went "Are you sure that's the only things you're in love with?" and she said no but while laughing slightly. This means different things for different people but it may mean she's hiding something.

Edit: Scratch all of that she told my friend that she doesn't want a relationship at all. "I'm on the road again..."

Dude, do not give up!!! You now go to [post=8153893]Plan B[/post], the long term siege. You are already way ahead of the game in that she loves your personality, now is your chance to have a little fun, joke around, make her laugh, make her see what a great dude you are, without the pressure of, "Hey let's date" Always keep your other options open of course, but this is a challenge you should relish.

Women often say they don't want a "relationship" but that can mean many things. Most often it means one of three things. It could mean she just wants a 🤬 buddy and not a serious relationship. It could mean she just got out of a bad one and really needs to be sure of the next boyfriend before she commits. It could also mean she's interested in you but is uncertain at this point if she wants a relationship with you and you need to convince her. Women are relationship oriented, it's in the genes. The door is open my friend, walk through it with a big 🤬 eating grin and say, "Here I am baby, I am the funniest, most happening and hip dude on the planet, you cannot resist my charms!!!!" and have some fun:sly:

Even if it doesn't work, you'll have a great time, and you never know, she might recommend you to a friend...lol.

I found out today that a couple of years ago my girlfriend took part in lesbian activities. This please me greatly and conjured many ideas in my mind. However each of these got me very hard slaps when I pitched them to her.

I shall not give up.

👍👍
 
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Same issue I deal with all the time nowadays - I do have a girlfriend, but more than half of my friends (the ones I actually talk to, discuss with, etc) are girls.

This doesn't mean I'm gay or I'm a womanizer. :indiff:

Once public opinion of you starts to form, it takes a lot of effort to change it, and it's really difficult to do so.

For some reason, I don't understand why men with plenty of female friends are considered gay by some. :boggled: Shouldn't it be, kinda like, the opposite?
 
For some reason, I don't understand why men with plenty of female friends are considered gay by some. :boggled: Shouldn't it be, kinda like, the opposite?

No, the idea is that if you have tons of female friends, but no girlfriend, then people assume you're gay as you'd have asked one of them out and presumably succeeded if you weren't. Stupid thought process but it's true.
 
No, the idea is that if you have tons of female friends, but no girlfriend, then people assume you're gay as you'd have asked one of them out and presumably succeeded if you weren't. Stupid thought process but it's true.

Generally I'd say I'm not all the interested in hanging out in a group all the time that talks about other guys, hair, makeup, music, chick flicks, Survivor, The Bachelor/Batchelorette, what guy they shagged last weekend etc. etc. One on one, no problem, you can avoid all that stuff for the most part. But in a group? Not unless I'm on the hunt and I wade in, make my kill, and get out as soon as possible!!:crazy:
 
Johnnypenso
Generally I'd say I'm not all the interested in hanging out in a group all the time that talks about other guys, hair, makeup, music, chick flicks, Survivor, The Bachelor/Batchelorette, what guy they shagged last weekend etc. etc. One on one, no problem, you can avoid all that stuff for the most part. But in a group? Not unless I'm on the hunt and I wade in, make my kill, and get out as soon as possible!!:crazy:

That gets annoying FAST lol.

Update on my situation: girl 1 and I are now dating. :)
 
Wow what a great thread. Who gives a toss about GT6, this is where the action is :dopey:

Hello, my name is tube and I have a healthy appreciation for women. I'll probably share some anecdotes in the near future, but for now this is where I find myself.

Virtual pint goes to Johnnypenso for this bang-on (pardon the pun) guide. Younger fellas, read and learn.

Two links I'd like to add as potential resources:

"Until next time, take care of yourself, and each other."
 
I wish I knew how to lure someone away from their boyfriend without having them be lured away from me if I ever succedded in getting with them...

Also, the second to last link posted in the last post is EXACTLY how I feel about that one girl...almost an obsession. It is overwhelming.
 
I wish I knew how to lure someone away from their boyfriend without having them be lured away from me if I ever succedded in getting with them...
Sorry bud, you can't step into the ring and expect to be the only one throwing punches.
Also, the second to last link posted in the last post is EXACTLY how I feel about that one girl...almost an obsession. It is overwhelming.
Its with you in mind that I added that link. Now that you know what the problem is you can go about repairing it. Good luck 👍
 
So sad. Talked to this girl extensively through Skype and Facebook and man she has everything. She is beautiful, fun to talk to, likes me, my music taste and the majority of my hobbies... I yearn to be with her; But she lives in West Virginia. Man it is painful knowing no matter what I do I have virtually no chance of ever being with her...
 
That's what I figured. Thing is I'm pretty sure he abuses this girl...not only phyisically like shoving etc but sexually as well. When I talked to her last she wouldn't say straight up what he's done but she did say shes been handled by him before and wouldn't really talk about it much more...She just sort of looked away and her voice trailed off. I suspect something is up. But then again she says the relationship is "stable"...again trailing off. Would not make direct eye contact with me and she was constantly twirling the seatbelt as we spoke. She sounded a bit nervous or something. I think I said this before. Any insight on what this body language means?

I hope I can figure out a way to fix this.
 
Slash I truly feel for you buddy, so here's my two cents.

What this girl needs is a social worker or trained counsellor. The best you can do is alert her parents/school-counsellor and then walk away. Who knows, in a couple years she may contact you thanking you for doing that, and giving her the space she needed. At this moment she is most definitely not relationship material. A short term solution to an obsessive crush is to find a new crush. But to do that you need to conclude the relationship with your current GF before she does something to herself to get your attention; or cooks your pet rabbit.
 
She could be embarrassed over it, Slash. That's what I get from the description you gave.
 
Slashfan
That's what I figured. Thing is I'm pretty sure he abuses this girl...not only phyisically like shoving etc but sexually as well. When I talked to her last she wouldn't say straight up what he's done but she did say shes been handled by him before and wouldn't really talk about it much more...She just sort of looked away and her voice trailed off. I suspect something is up. But then again she says the relationship is "stable"...again trailing off. Would not make direct eye contact with me and she was constantly twirling the seatbelt as we spoke. She sounded a bit nervous or something. I think I said this before. Any insight on what this body language means?

I hope I can figure out a way to fix this.

I can't explain it, but some girls like being treated like dirt. They might not show they like it, but if they really didn't, they would break up with the abusive boyfriend. (I'm not condoning treating women like dirt)
 
Update on my situation: girl 1 and I are now dating. :)

Congrats..:cheers:


Wow what a great thread. Who gives a toss about GT6, this is where the action is :dopey:


Virtual pint goes to Johnnypenso for this bang-on (pardon the pun) guide. Younger fellas, read and learn.

Two links I'd like to add as potential resources:

"Until next time, take care of yourself, and each other."

Back at ya...:cheers:


I can't explain it, but some girls like being treated like dirt. They might not show they like it, but if they really didn't, they would break up with the abusive boyfriend. (I'm not condoning treating women like dirt)

If you've only ever been treated like crap, your Dad was a major d-bag, your family is crap etc., then it's all you know. It begins to almost feel normal and it's a hard cycle to break. A guy comes along who is normal but to a girl/woman who is used to being treated like crap he's actually "abnormal" and thus unappealing. It's a bizarre merrygoround/vicious circle and a very hard connection to break. I've tried numerous time over the years and it's like pulling teeth from a hungry alligator.
 
She could be embarrassed over it, Slash. That's what I get from the description you gave.

It depends on what you mean by embarrased though. Like in a good way, or a get the **** away from me why are you talking to me embarrased.
 
If you've only ever been treated like crap, your Dad was a major d-bag, your family is crap etc., then it's all you know. It begins to almost feel normal and it's a hard cycle to break. A guy comes along who is normal but to a girl/woman who is used to being treated like crap he's actually "abnormal" and thus unappealing. It's a bizarre merrygoround/vicious circle and a very hard connection to break. I've tried numerous time over the years and it's like pulling teeth from a hungry alligator.
This is pretty spot on for a large amount of girls with father issues.

My ex. is this way to a degree; her father used to verbally abuse her & her brother and now-a-days, she feels like he's trying to buy back her love by paying for all her expenses. This in combination with her having such low self-esteem & being treated like an outcast amongst the people we both called friends once, makes for a tough situation. It made it extremely tough for me to do anything nice for her with money involved because she was just never accustomed to it from anyone else but her father. She's gotten better over the past 6 months though.
 
Johnnypenso
Congrats..:cheers:

Back at ya...:cheers:

If you've only ever been treated like crap, your Dad was a major d-bag, your family is crap etc., then it's all you know. It begins to almost feel normal and it's a hard cycle to break. A guy comes along who is normal but to a girl/woman who is used to being treated like crap he's actually "abnormal" and thus unappealing. It's a bizarre merrygoround/vicious circle and a very hard connection to break. I've tried numerous time over the years and it's like pulling teeth from a hungry alligator.

That makes sense. I don't want to purposely treat anyone like crap.
 
It depends on what you mean by embarrased though. Like in a good way, or a get the **** away from me why are you talking to me embarrased.

I think, she probably just don't want to talk about that single thing (so the "good way"?). I honestly don't think it's a "get away from me [...]"-embarrassment, but you can test it, by asking her something (not about this) and see how she reacts.

While I wrote this, I thought, "hey, maybe she's afraid of this fellow, and what he can do to her". Chances can really be 50/50 here, but, the biggest chances is (actually) that she could be afraid of him.
 
Before I start, I'd like to say that this post is not about romantic relationships (and also that these last couple of pages have been great. 👍). I have been in a happy long-distance relationship (I know, an oxymoron, right?) for almost seven months now. Things have been getting a bit shaky lately, but it's not bad enough that I have to come here for advice. I know how to deal with it.

However, this is the general relationship thread, and I consider that to include friend relationships, which can be just as strong as romantic ones. So, if nobody objects, I'll continue. :p (wall of text alert!)

I have a problem with a friend who drifted away from me for no reason, even when I made every effort to keep the friendship alive. We were best friends pretty much throughout high school, hung out every day at school with a small friend group, went over to each others' houses, did stupid stuff throughout the school year and especially during the summer, and so on. When we weren't hanging out, we were on Facebook forgoing homework to post stupid videos on each others' wall. We complemented each other very well, and even when we graduated and went our separate ways (we're both from the Washington, D.C. area; I'm a music major at Indiana University and he's a music major at a school in Virginia) we still kept it alive.

We are both musicians, and we would sometimes get together over long holidays to record multitracks that we wrote for ourselves. These were ridiculously huge undertakings; the Christmas multitrack we did in 2011 took three entire days to record, but the result was fantastic (which you can listen to here if you're interested). We had a lot of fun doing it - multitracking is something I'm extremely passionate about, and he loved it too. I'm telling you all this because it was multitracks that caused me to first notice him drifting away. We planned to do several multitracks last summer, but after a summer full of doing stupid things outdoors together with some other friends as per usual, we only had time for one at the end of the summer. It was his idea, too - he really wanted to record one of his favorite jazz ballads, so one day he came over and we arranged it for ourselves. We would just barely make it before I had to leave for Indiana, and recording day ended up being on the last day I was home. But, alas, he "forgot", and I left for Indiana the next morning pretty bummed. I didn't blame it on him though - everyone makes mistakes and I wasn't going to be mad at him for forgetting.

But as time went on I started to think he didn't really forget. Every time that semester I'd try to Skype him just to hang out or plan the next Christmas multitrack or whatever, he'd say he was busy, something just came up, etc., so can we do it next week?...and then say the same thing the next week, and the next, and so on. Now I can understand being really busy in college, but I have a busier schedule than he does and I always made time to Skype my friends from back home. We ended up not Skyping at all that semester, and come winter break we were in an interesting situation. We had three weeks of break (our breaks coincide), and the middle week I was gone on a cruise with my family. So we could record the Christmas multitrack the week before or the week after. I wanted to do the week before so that I wouldn't have to worry about not playing for a week on the cruise ship. We ended up making lots of progress on writing the multitrack, but didn't even finish it before I went on the cruise. So we decided set in stone to finish writing and then record it as soon as I got back. My first day back I was ready to go and he said that he couldn't do it that day as his sister was flying back to her college that day, and I thought fair enough, spending time with his sister is more important. Then the next day I just asked if he was free that day to do it, and he never responded for the rest of the week and I drove back to Indiana with a heavy heart.

I decided thereafter that if he wasn't going to make the effort to keep our friendship going, I wasn't either, and if he wanted to hang out or do anything again, he was going to have to contact me first, to avoid any more disappointments. I decided that at the beginning of the semester, and these past 7-8 weeks he has not communicated to me once. This past week a musical event at home happened that we both went to last year (his idea) and had a great time at. This year he posted pictures live from the event on Facebook, which I saw sitting in my home.

My thoughts on the matter are that he loves his group of friends at his college (as I do at mine), has changed by hanging out with them, and I no longer fit into that change. On the rare occasions where I do see him (like I did before my cruise during winter break), however, he's exactly the same as he always was. And in any case, the least he could do is just tell me that he's moved on or whatever else applies, instead of just repeatedly leaving me hanging. I didn't think it would be that big of a deal at first but after the friendship we had in high school these developments are heartbreaking and devastating, much like whenever I've been wronged by a girl.

My question to you all is this: is he gone for good or is there a way to get his friendship back? In the process he'll have to get my trust back, which is not easy, but is it possible? I'm afraid I can't just move on from this either - that's not the sort of person I am. I still have a wound in my heart from when I was left by my first girlfriend almost three years ago, even though I'm in a happy relationship. My feelings almost never leave me, and the only emotional burden I have right now involves this past friend.

TL;DR: Can you get back a friend who left you?

Apologies for the excessively long post...one of these days I might make a post about girls! :dopey: :p
 
I have a problem. I feel confident about starting conversation with girls i don´t know from anywhere on Facebook. But i block after the "Hi how are you" part. I want to know them has a person but I run out of words :/ HELP ME :D
 
I think, she probably just don't want to talk about that single thing (so the "good way"?). I honestly don't think it's a "get away from me [...]"-embarrassment, but you can test it, by asking her something (not about this) and see how she reacts.

While I wrote this, I thought, "hey, maybe she's afraid of this fellow, and what he can do to her". Chances can really be 50/50 here, but, the biggest chances is (actually) that she could be afraid of him.

Well I shall test this out. Thanks :D
 
That girl I mentioned a page or two back, yer well my mate is borderline throwing me at her to ask her to the prom. I don't want to because I think I've got a good thing going here and if I ask her it might scare her off, might, I think I just need to work on charming her a bit more first. What d'ya think, should I just ask her I mean if she says no as a 'going out' we can always go as friends and hope it leads to more, right?
 
That girl I mentioned a page or two back, yer well my mate is borderline throwing me at her to ask her to the prom. I don't want to because I think I've got a good thing going here and if I ask her it might scare her off, might, I think I just need to work on charming her a bit more first. What d'ya think, should I just ask her I mean if she says no as a 'going out' we can always go as friends and hope it leads to more, right?

Depends on when your prom is, I'd say. If you have two months or more I think you can take some time to make some progress with her and then ask when you're ready/prom is getting close (whichever comes first). If prom is pretty close, I'd just go ahead and ask her...she needs time to prepare and you don't want someone else snatching her as prom looms.
 
Depends on when your prom is, I'd say. If you have two months or more I think you can take some time to make some progress with her and then ask when you're ready/prom is getting close (whichever comes first). If prom is pretty close, I'd just go ahead and ask her...she needs time to prepare and you don't want someone else snatching her as prom looms.

We've got around 3 months left so I suppose I could wait till after Easter to ask. I'm more inclined to ask now actually.
 
That girl I mentioned a page or two back, yer well my mate is borderline throwing me at her to ask her to the prom. I don't want to because I think I've got a good thing going here and if I ask her it might scare her off, might, I think I just need to work on charming her a bit more first. What d'ya think, should I just ask her I mean if she says no as a 'going out' we can always go as friends and hope it leads to more, right?

Chicks dig it when you're direct. Just ask her out.
 
Well I shall test this out. Thanks :D
You're very welcome :cheers:.
That girl I mentioned a page or two back, yer well my mate is borderline throwing me at her to ask her to the prom. I don't want to because I think I've got a good thing going here and if I ask her it might scare her off, might, I think I just need to work on charming her a bit more first. What d'ya think, should I just ask her I mean if she says no as a 'going out' we can always go as friends and hope it leads to more, right?
Just ask her out.

I was about to say the same thing, as Villain; just ask her out 👍.
 
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My question to you all is this: is he gone for good or is there a way to get his friendship back? In the process he'll have to get my trust back, which is not easy, but is it possible? I'm afraid I can't just move on from this either - that's not the sort of person I am. I still have a wound in my heart from when I was left by my first girlfriend almost three years ago, even though I'm in a happy relationship. My feelings almost never leave me, and the only emotional burden I have right now involves this past friend.

TL;DR: Can you get back a friend who left you?

Apologies for the excessively long post...one of these days I might make a post about girls! :dopey: :p

I've been through this, from both sides. It's perfectly natural to fall in with a new group of friends and kind of forget about the old ones or take them for granted. Sucks when you're the one taken for granted, but it's part of growing and learning and a part of life that people move on and gain new friends. Doesn't mean they don't like you or they want to hurt you or anything, it's just the way things are.

Can you get them back, sure, it's worth a try, but the odds are probably against you. Your odds will be even smaller I think if you make a big deal about it, about the whole trust issue, history etc. I'd say start with a clean slate and build from scratch again but don't go into it with a huge set of expectations or you'll likely be disappointed. He may have just moved on.

That girl I mentioned a page or two back, yer well my mate is borderline throwing me at her to ask her to the prom. I don't want to because I think I've got a good thing going here and if I ask her it might scare her off, might, I think I just need to work on charming her a bit more first. What d'ya think, should I just ask her I mean if she says no as a 'going out' we can always go as friends and hope it leads to more, right?

Given that you've already said this,

Edit: Scratch all of that she told my friend that she doesn't want a relationship at all. "I'm on the road again..."..

...I'd still ask her and do it soon before someone else gets in there, just don't get your hopes up. Take whatever comes and be prepared for a no, and by be prepared I mean don't let her know you're crushed by it, you have to kind of make like it's no big deal. For example, if she says no, you might say, "Ok, no problem, hope you have a great time and I'll see you there" Don't ask her for a reason or an explaination because it won't change anything. You don't want her to see you weak and needy, it's not attractive.

Also, don't let her jerk you around either, by putting you off with a "maybe" or "I'll let you know in April" kind of thing. The translation of that is, "If someone better comes along the answer is not, but if not, you're in, although I may change my mind if another offer pops up". If she wants to think about it give her a day or two and if you dont hear anything just move along, I wouldn't even call her. Sounds rude, but she should be the one calling you with an answer, and if she keeps you waiting and doesn't call, that's selfish and inconsiderate. Ask the next person you are interested in and move on.
 
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