The Grind is Getting Me Down Man

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It seems to me we pay how hard earned cash for this title and keep KAZ in a job, and yet we have to spends months earning enough money to buy the cars we paid to experience in the first place.

Im all for making it challenging but not to the point were most people give up before they have experienced the full game, how can that be right.

and the most depressing part is after months of grind and suddenly my ps3 gives up, I could be left with no save data to show for all my effort.

If that was the case I would shove my PS3 up Kaz's A**e until he retrieves it.:ouch:
 
All I want is a '69 GT40. I heard somewhere those are 20million a pop, just like the MK4. If that's the case then I have 1125 laps of indianapolis to do in one of those retarded nascars. I could choose other events but they don't pass so quickly, pay so high or require absolutely no concentration or driving skill. Wish me luck I'm about 19hours away from hoping one randomly appears in the 2nd hand dealers.

At that point I don't care about the grind. I was planning on finishing the game with all golds but there's no rush. If I happen to go from lv23 to lv24 sometime in the next 6 years then good and well - I'll finish the last event but I'm just about done with single player now - once I get the GT40 It'll be online and hotlapping happy ever after.
 
There is no grind, just redo all the events with different cars.

Obviously increasing the challenge by using less 'mods' or by using weird cars with mods.

Why grind, when you can race.
 
abaxas
There is no grind, just redo all the events with different cars.

Obviously increasing the challenge by using less 'mods' or by using weird cars with mods.

Why grind, when you can race.
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Yups! I try to do that and did that in GT4.

Same events but different cars. So I get to compare lap times of different cars, see how mods affect the car etc.

I may even discover a car I really like!

By the way, those under lvl 18-20 shouldn't really need to grind that much. COmplete the challenges and you'll get loads of XP.

I am at 19 and just doing the Turbo HSR race trying to beat my own time with a fully tune R34 GT-R. And yes, my laptimes did get better. Once I feel I could improve no more, time for next car :-)
 
TsLeng
Yups! I try to do that and did that in GT4.

Same events but different cars. So I get to compare lap times of different cars, see how mods affect the car etc.

I may even discover a car I really like!

By the way, those under lvl 18-20 shouldn't really need to grind that much. COmplete the challenges and you'll get loads of XP.

I am at 19 and just doing the Turbo HSR race trying to beat my own time with a fully tune R34 GT-R. And yes, my laptimes did get better. Once I feel I could improve no more, time for next car :-)
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A grind is still a grind. Im only @ lvl 18 and I barely have any events left, for a game that is supposed to be huge and took so long, there is not a lot of events, and some only have one race. The economy is whack, and more importantly, where are all the events? some cars are grossly over rpiced.
 
Well I don't know how most of you play the game but I didn't have to "grind" at all and I'm at level 23. I didn't have to redo (only did Super Gt series few times because it is so much fun in my Raybrig NSX) any events to get there and didn't even score All Golds yet in some challenges (I'm looking at you Top Gear Lotus). So I think the whole "grind issue" is way overblown.
 
PD finally got things right!!! Throughout the history of the GT series, there has not been any regulation of the money or cars you could purchase. There was little respect for the cars you drove because you could always do some race that gave you a high value car. Now though, I seriously have to think about how I drive, the cars I am going to use, and the risks I am willing to take to get what I want.

For instance, I recently brought a 340 scuderia, and used it to cream a few easy races. I know it was overkill, but it came back to haunt me in the end, as I have wound up with a 150k repair bill. Sure it peeved me off, but it made me think twice about doing the same thing again!

People cried for damage, and the like, but complain that it is hard to get money to fund repairs, or buy other cars. You can't (and shouldn't) have it both ways!!!
 
mr_geez
Well I don't know how most of you play the game but I didn't have to "grind" at all and I'm at level 23. I didn't have to redo (only did Super Gt series few times because it is so much fun in my Raybrig NSX) any events to get there and didn't even score All Golds yet in some challenges (I'm looking at you Top Gear Lotus). So I think the whole "grind issue" is way overblown.
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They mustn't be doing any of the special events.
 
magburner
People cried for damage, and the like, but complain that it is hard to get money to fund repairs, or buy other cars. You can't (and shouldn't) have it both ways!!!
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It's a shame that we don't have damage. Damage, is your car getting damaged. It's not twisted bumpers, and it certainly is not useless credit expenditure.

You can and should have it both ways. There is no excuse for not pleasing multiple parties when what they want does not conflict. Make GT mode, online, and arcade all separate from each other.

There was little respect for the cars you drove because you could always do some race that gave you a high value car.
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Please, speak for yourself. I mean no disrespect, but if you don't have the attention span to focus on what you're doing, do not assume that other people don't either. Your quote above applies to you and you only. Before you did not respect high value cars apparently. Right now, the current system isn't increasing my respect for anything.
 
TsLeng
Exactly what I am thinking if they are below lvl 20.

The special events pay out a lot of XP
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Im @ lvl 18, have don ALL special events that are unlocked, and dont have much in the way of events left, except extreme,, so i need to grind for hours just to buy a car to race in the extreme races............. Don't assume.
 
realwerewolf
Im @ lvl 18, have don ALL special events that are unlocked, and dont have much in the way of events left, except extreme,, so i need to grind for hours just to buy a car to race in the extreme races............. Don't assume.
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Then you have done something wrong, I didn't need to grind for any of the cars for the extreme events, other than the Formula GT of course.
 
I'm at level 20 and have not done any grinding yet. I still have some special events to do, so I'm hoping I'll be able to progress through Extreme without grinding.

Anyone know what kind of experience and $$$ you get from the endurance events? If I could get those unlocked, I could focus on those and hopefully progress. I hate grinding and won't do it unless I have to, and maybe not event then.
 
Ok I've read 4 entire pages of this and totally agree (with most).

I noticed a comment about "COD being a leveling system, so why is this so bad?"

The difference is that Every round of COD is different, yea it may be the same map but its online and unpredictable and you want to go back for more to try and do better the next round, that's the incentive.

With GT5 there is (currently) no online incentive and as everyone said a severe lack of different races and events that offer any more incentive.

Making the online play more rewarding is what is needed here but I have quickly become bored of having to repeat races and then loosing all that money just to try and make it all back and some to get the next car I'm going to need. this 'game' has become more of a chore for me. I really hope it's sorted out.

On top of it all (and a little unrelated to this thread but i'm on one now) Whats with the modding in this game? (or lack of)? I have to earn paint colors? then I can't even see what the car looks like in that color properly then I don't like the color then I use up another color I dont like etc etc. Also the lack of wheels is annoying.

Then, what seems like less then half of the cars in game (premium cars) are the only ones worth driving. I was expecting every car to have the ability to drive from the cock pit and be able to have different wheels etc, whats up with that? what the hell have they been doing with the last 4-5 years, i'm sure it doesn't take that long to copy and paste the basics then re work a little. it's safe to say I am dissappointed with this game. I did intend on buying the collectors edition of this game but luckyly my order some how failed so I'm not going to bother now untill I'm happier to do so.

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realwerewolf
Im @ lvl 18, have don ALL special events that are unlocked, and dont have much in the way of events left, except extreme,, so i need to grind for hours just to buy a car to race in the extreme races............. Don't assume.
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I did not assume. It is just a fact.

But now I am going to assume you have not got at least silver or gold for the special events.

Gold them and watch the XP flow.
 
TsLeng
I did not assume. It is just a fact.

But now I am going to assume you have not got at least silver or gold for the special events.

Gold them and watch the XP flow.
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Some people can't get gold on te special events. I know I haven't been able to on some of them and I'm not grinding it out to get there either. I was at the VW van race on the Top Gear track for over an hour to unlock the track, the thought of doing that ever again doesn't sound like much fun to me.
 
I am yet to buy a car other than my starting car. I have just been working on the licenses and Challenges, I then used those cars for the A spec events. I have hardly touched the A spec events though. I hope by doing what I'm doing I won't have to grind until a much later level.
 
Joey,

Agree that not everyone can get gold.

I could not even get close to silver on some license test in GT4 using the controller. I just had to accept the fact that I won't be getting the prize cars on that :guilty:

GT was never an easy game from GT3 onwards. There was always something that will put the casual gamer off.

GT3: Endurance races.
GT4: You can now B-spec endurance but like me, with a controller, it is very difficult to Gold all licences
GT5: There is a need to grind for XP if you cannot get most of the Special events on Gold

Nothing new there. there has got to be some incentive for us to try for gold in the challenges. If not, why bother? If PD took that away, there will be moaning about the fact it is so easy to just 'pass' the game :ouch:

My point is, the game offers us an option to get the XP instead of the easy, slow, boring way of grinding. At least up to lvl 20 for the moment. And when the online part of the game start to give out $$ and XP, it will make life easier.
 
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If GT5 is a grind then your doing it wrong.

Now to be fair I'm only lv 17 right now so maybe I'll change my attitude later. But I dont understand buying a racing game and then complaining that it wants you to race to progress through the game.

The idea is for you to make the races competative. Don't grab something that is going to make the race to easy for you. Grab something that will result in very close racing so that some races you win, some you loose.

Seriously.....what could be more fun than that?

I'm sure many of us have been playing GT4 for years waiting for GT5. You cant have been racing in new races for all those years.

pick something competative and I can repeat the same race for years......it's not a grind....it's the reason I bought GT5. :)
 
deakin
Grinding wouldn't have been an issue if multiplayer wins/progress earned XP.
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that's still not enough of a fix for me.. you'll still have to enter and win them, they're just a different set of events to grind though.
 
The game has been out for just a week, and we know that PD is holding features (online xp & cr) back. I'm not worrying about having to grind. I'm quite sure we'll see more updates 'soon'. ;)
 
i am at lvl 16 and i havent come very far in A-Spec races. i think i only completed the beginner events. and 2 special events, and license and stuff. Seem to me there is much left XD
 
I think it's an effective way from stopping some of you guys from completing the game in one sitting ;P imagine how well that would go over!

I don't care as long as I can unlock the driving stuff I want, and three days into the game I have most of what I enjoy. Nordschliefe, and the ability to get fun cars like good Ferraris- plus, I guess being stuck with the used car lot means the element of surprise. As long as I have some money I can stumble across random cool stuff that's interesting to discover. So far I'm not complaining. But I was never going to get 100% anyway, I'm an old fart who can't quite silver the full Ring lap intermediate :)
 
TsLeng
I did not assume. It is just a fact.

But now I am going to assume you have not got at least silver or gold for the special events.

Gold them and watch the XP flow.
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Its not a fact, you just assumed again are are wrong again, I got gold on ALL special events that are unlocked......................
 
DaveS1138
If GT5 is a grind then your doing it wrong.

Now to be fair I'm only lv 17 right now so maybe I'll change my attitude later. But I dont understand buying a racing game and then complaining that it wants you to race to progress through the game.

The idea is for you to make the races competative. Don't grab something that is going to make the race to easy for you. Grab something that will result in very close racing so that some races you win, some you loose.

Seriously.....what could be more fun than that?

I'm sure many of us have been playing GT4 for years waiting for GT5. You cant have been racing in new races for all those years.

pick something competative and I can repeat the same race for years......it's not a grind....it's the reason I bought GT5. :)
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No................. A grind is a grind.
 
DaveS1138
If GT5 is a grind then your doing it wrong.

Now to be fair I'm only lv 17 right now so maybe I'll change my attitude later. But I dont understand buying a racing game and then complaining that it wants you to race to progress through the game.

The idea is for you to make the races competative. Don't grab something that is going to make the race to easy for you. Grab something that will result in very close racing so that some races you win, some you loose.

Seriously.....what could be more fun than that?

I'm sure many of us have been playing GT4 for years waiting for GT5. You cant have been racing in new races for all those years.

pick something competative and I can repeat the same race for years......it's not a grind....it's the reason I bought GT5. :)
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I think the point was that the game forces you to repeat races in order for you to race in the higher events rather than the old system of getting the required licence. Basically you're stuck until you repeat enough races to earn the required xp and while repeating races is all part and parcel of a racing game, it's not so much fun when it's deliberately hindering your progress as a cheap way to prolong the career mode of the game. What I prefer doing is being able to do each different event one after the other without interruption, finish the career mode then go back and repeat whatever events I choose, earn credits, buy new cars, race different cars, so forth and so on. The way it is now it's a grind to see what all the A-spec events have to offer, there's plenty time for doing all them again after they've all been finished.
 
Lol, I'm not eve trying to get through the game. I'm just getting as many cool cars as I can and running my own "Stig" power laps at the TG test track. Seriously doubt I'll ever bother to complete the game...
 
So for the normal race events, if you play multiple times you still get the money AND the cars right? Or just the money?
 

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