The GTP Unofficial 2020 US Elections Thread

GTPlanet Exit Poll - Which Presidential Ticket Did You Vote For?

  • Trump/Pence

    Votes: 16 27.1%

  • Biden/Harris

    Votes: 20 33.9%

  • Jorgensen/Cohen

    Votes: 7 11.9%

  • Hawkins/Walker

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • La Riva/Freeman

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • De La Fuente/Richardson

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Blankenship/Mohr

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Carroll/Patel

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Simmons/Roze

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Charles/Wallace

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 15 25.4%
  • Total voters
    59
  • Poll closed .
Sprite
I think there is an element of "Cutting their noses off to spite their faces" with a dash of "pride before a fall" and a sprinkling of "not wanting to admit when wrong"
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If anybody doesn't believe it they are either resigning or keeping quiet. These days it is apparently A-OK to send death threats to politicians who don't agree with your views.
 
Blitz24
If anybody doesn't believe it they are either resigning or keeping quiet. These days it is apparently A-OK to send death threats to politicians who don't agree with your views.
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It seems to be a view held here across the pond too, however, in recent times people have taken those threats one step further and taken lives.

Sad times for honest and honourable conversations for the good of all people.
 
Sprite
It seems to be a view held here across the pond too, however, in recent times people have taken those threats one step further and taken lives.

Sad times for honest and honourable conversations for the good of all people.
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There's a big difference between individual extremists who murder politicians and gangs of armed insurrectionists trying to take over the country by force. The former haven't made people afraid to talk to each other, they've just caused needless tragedy. If anything, they've united the nation against them.
 
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There's a big difference between individual extremists who murder politicians and gangs of armed insurrectionists trying to take over the country by force. The former haven't made people afraid to talk to each other, they've just caused needless tragedy. If anything, they've united the nation against them.
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I agree, but it’s not like we haven’t had our fair share of that too in the UK and also other countries across the globe. Heck we celebrate 1605 and the Gunpowder Plot even to this day, York does tours showing where Guido lived and grew up etc.

What is troubling is the brazen disregard Trump and his cronies have for all people, this includes his supporters. There is certainly a difference to a one man band with a gun or knife killing an individual to a militia marching on a symbol of the free world and trying to take down a government, but they all stem from the same source of messed up ideologies of massive proportions.

Maybe because we have had experience in our past of such actions and we don’t wish to go down that path again, our resolve to unite against such actions is swifter and more decisive on the whole. I’d be a little reluctant to lump all those who are abhorred by said actions into one group. There are still those who, while stand against killings of Politicians, military, police, journalists etc. don’t blame an ideology or the instigators of such actions but blame the race or religion of said attackers and then use this to justify continuing with their own divisive actions and ideology despite missing the mark by a wide margin and not seeing how they’re not far removed from the men and women they’re happy to condemn.

We have got to a stage on this planet where all logical courses of action and inaction are thrown out of the window and replaced by the wants and will of an unstable individual and his/her inner circle.
 
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I hope we in the UK have collectively moved on from the likes of Fawkes. Judging by the fact his name adorns a popular rightwing website though, perhaps you're right to wonder.

Back in the US Madison Cawthorn appears to be endorsing "2nd amendment solutions" to the "stolen" election. I don't know whether this evidence would stand up in court though (pun not intended).

 
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Guy Fawkes only wanted to replace one persecuting theocracy with another one; a Catholic King instead of a Protestant King. It is an extremely nuanced thing to talk about. You need a large amount of salt when it comes to government tyranny or the auld saying "the last guy to enter Parliament with honest intentions was Guy Fawkes". Especially when James VI/I himself wasn't necessarily the worst Protestant monarch Britain had ever had at that point in time.

But that's too off topic. This thread, still active again. 😌
 
Can you believe it's nearly a year since Ashli Babbitt last engaged in an act of domestic terrorism?

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I'm sure Celeste Norris won't forget her.
apnews.com

Ashli Babbitt a martyr? Her past tells a more complex story

Former President Donald Trump and his supporters have sought to portray the woman who was shot by a police officer during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot as a righteous martyr who was unjustly killed. But the life of the 35-year-old Air Force veteran from California, Ashli Babbitt, was far more...
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This article isn't paywalled, so it can be viewed on the original site with links or in its entirety sans links below.
www.thebulwark.com

The Good Coup - The Bulwark

Donald Trump’s former White House advisor Peter Navarro is mad. The way he tells it, he and Steve Bannon had a perfectly legal strategy they termed the the “Green Bay Sweep” (a nod to Vince Lombardi) to deprive Joe Biden of the presidency. And everything was going swimmingly until Trump’s mob...
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[D]onald Trump’s former White House advisor Peter Navarro is mad.

The way he tells it, he and Steve Bannon had a perfectly legal strategy they termed the “The Green Bay Sweep” (a nod to Vince Lombardi) to deprive Joe Biden of the presidency. And, everything was going swimmingly until Trump’s mob showed up and ruined the flow.

In a pair of recent interviews and the final chapters of his grudge-filled book In Trump Time,

Navarro says that he provided research reports to back objections to the Electoral College that were approved of by Trump and disseminated by his office to members of Congress. Bannon acted as the “strategist” and “whip” and “over 100” members of Congress were “lined up to execute that plan.”

These details provide new insight into how closely Trump and his associates coordinated with the Hill to throw the election to Trump, which Navarro believes could have worked.

He told with Rolling Stone in an interview published Monday evening:
It started flawlessly when [Arizona Rep. Paul] Gosar and [Texas Sen.] Cruz promptly at 1 p.m. called on scrutiny of the Arizona vote. Arizona was one of six battlegrounds: They were Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Nevada. And it started flawlessly, but the violence overtook that event. The rest, as they, say is history . . .


My role in the whole thing was basically to provide Congress, via my reports, the analytical material they needed to actually make the challenges. And the president himself had distributed Volume One of the report to every member of the House and Senate a week or so earlier. . . .

There was a couple of times I walked over to the Oval—both times after I finished a report—and personally handed him one and briefed him on it. In the first case, in front of me, he asked Molly Michael, his assistant, to make sure everybody on the Hill promptly got a copy of it.
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His theory was that the objections would take many hours, and the media would be forced to cover it all, creating pressure to finally send Electoral College votes back to the states for “further review.” Because . . . reasons?

At that point, Navarro told Rolling Stone:
One of two things could happen. They go back there [to the states], they look at it and they say, “Nope. It’s certified.” [The votes] come back, and that would be it. Fair enough.

But the more likely scenario based on our assessment of the evidence was that states would withdraw any certification. And the election would be thrown to the House of Representatives. And even though the House is controlled by Democrats, the way votes would be counted in a presidential election decided by the House, Trump would almost certainly win.
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Easy, peasy, lemon-squeezy. You get a nice, legal coup. All above board and on the up-and-up.

It is interesting that Navarro believes that this version of events clears Trump of any responsibility for the violence on January 6. He writes in his book that he, Bannon, and Trump were “the last three people on God’s good Earth who want to see violence erupt on Capitol Hill” because “it was this violence that finally put an abrupt end to any hope the president had for taking back an election likely stolen from him.”

In other words: He, Bannon, and Trump were in the middle of executing a legal coup, which the violent coup attempt foiled. Therefore, he, Bannon and Trump couldn’t possibly be responsible for the violent attempted coup. Which is a defense, of sorts.

What Navarro is arguing is that he had a good coup in mind. The rioters were trying to do a bad coup. He’s the good guy. The rioters—and, funnily enough, Mike Pence, whom Navarro accuses of “betrayal”—are the bad guys who got in the way of this good coup. Navarro describes The Green Bay Sweep as “a well-thought-out plan based on sound, constitutional law and existing legislative precedent.”

“And all it required was peace and calm on Capitol Hill for it to unfold,” Navarro said.

And yea, verily, there is nothing expressly illegal about the strategy Navarro came up with. There are perfectly legal ways to disqualify the Electoral College votes and throw the election to a vote in the House of Representatives by state delegations. And, Trump would have likely won that vote.

Navarro is certainly right: This scheme could have worked.

Whether that’s a defense or an indictment is up to America.
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TexRex
This article isn't paywalled, so it can be viewed on the original site with links or in its entirety sans links below.
www.thebulwark.com

The Good Coup - The Bulwark

Donald Trump’s former White House advisor Peter Navarro is mad. The way he tells it, he and Steve Bannon had a perfectly legal strategy they termed the the “Green Bay Sweep” (a nod to Vince Lombardi) to deprive Joe Biden of the presidency. And everything was going swimmingly until Trump’s mob...
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Rare, a Green Bay offensive play did not work. Must have not been playing the NFC North.
 
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I AM SO ****ING HERE FOR THIS!!!




Ted sees what Tucker says last night and texts him to say he wants to come on tonight. Ted gets there, hat in hand, begging for forgiveness and Tucker makes the worthless mother****er beg even more.

****ing pathetic. This is supposed to be a United States Senator and he's completely subservient to the ****ing rat Tucker Carlson.

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But wait, there's more!

This is less than an hour ago.

 
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I mean, I guess its to everyone's benefit if the people who think violence is a valid alternative to democracy all turn on each other. They can fight amongst themselves about who is the biggest patriot, maybe out in the wilderness somewhere, and everyone else can get on with their lives.
 
Trump's statement today claims that it was Biden and Biden voters who disrupted the peaceful transfer of power and also accuses black voters of getting Biden elected.

So he acknowledges that there should have been a peaceful transfer of power for an election he claims to have been cheated out of and says Biden voters launched an insurrection against an election that a) was won fair and square or b) was still won by Biden anyway even if you are delusional to believe his fiction. Nevermind all the subsequent court cases proving beyond any doubt that this was a Republican-minded, Trump-specific insurrection. The cognitive dissonance is extra salty today.

What a mentalist. He needs sectioning.

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Weird.
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Cyber Ninjas says it's 'shutting down' after Arizona judge fines it $50,000 a day in audit records fight

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Cyber Ninjas, the Florida firm hired by Arizona Senate Republicans to conduct a partisan review of Maricopa County's 2020 ballots, said Thursday evening that it is not longer in business. "Cyber Ninjas is shutting down," company representative Rod Thompson told NBC News. "All employees have been let go," including CEO Doug Logan.

But an Arizona judge who had just fined it $50,000 a day for noncompliance with an August order to turn over audit-related records to The Arizona Republic, wasn't having it.

"The court is not going to accept the assertion that Cyber Ninjas is an empty shell and that no one is responsible for seeing that it complies," Maricopa Superior Court Judge Hannah told Cyber Ninjas lawyer Jack Wilenchik. He questioned the company's insolvency, citing millions in donations, and suggested it needn't cost much to comply with the records request. Hannah said the fines would start to accrue Friday, and may be applied to individuals in the company.

"Wilenchik has asked to quit as the Cyber Ninjas lawyer because he hasn't been paid, but Hannah refused to approve until new local attorneys are in place to represent the firm," The Associated Press reports.

The Republic had requested $1,000 a day in sanctions, but Hannah called that "grossly insufficient" to compel Cyber Ninja's compliance. "It is lucidly clear on this record that Cyber Ninjas has disregarded that order," he said in his ruling.

State Senate President Karen Fann (R) hired Cyber Ninjas to conduct what she called a "forensic audit" of Maricopa's ballots, part of a broader effort by allies of former President Donald Trump to find evidence for his claim the election was stolen. Cyber Ninja, which had no election review experience, eventually found that Trump lost the county, and Arizona, to President Biden by more votes than originally counted.

Cyber Ninja's final report also found several problems with how the election was conducted. On Wednesday, Maricopa County released its own report rebutting almost all the claims in Cyber Ninja's report. The county's three-month investigation did find that 87 of the 53,304 ballots flagged as questionable in the Senate review were either mistakenly double-counted or potentially cast illegally. In a four-hour hearing on Wednesday, county election officials ran through Cyber Ninja's errors and misleading and accurate claims, attributing them to poor analysis or fundamental misunderstandings of how elections are run.
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Blitz24
And it's amazing how the taxpayer will be on the hook for their investigation while the company gets off with no repercussions.
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Why not? He/she already paid for their bogus fraudit thanks to the AZ GOP. Might as well go the whole hog.
 
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Report states 5 Republican states forged electoral documents.
Loyalists of former President Donald Trump attempted to certify the Electoral College in favor of the defeated candidate with forged documents, according to new reporting by MSNBC host Rachel Maddow.

Trump loyalists forged documents in at least five states where Joe Biden had defeated Trump and submitted them for certification, according to Maddow.
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truthout.org

Republicans in 5 States Forged Electoral College Documents, MSNBC Host Says

The signers of the forged documents falsely claimed to be "duly elected and qualified Electors."
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TexRex
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Which would mean approximately 50 million of those would be minors. Would also mean about 30 million people voted properly/didn't vote. By calculations, it would also mean that 10 out of 11 Americans committed election fraud. This is just so laughable so I am hoping that if this goes through I get to share a cell with @Terronium-12 and @TB.
 

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