The Homosexuality Discussion Thread

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I think homosexuality is:

  • a problem that needs to be cured.

    Votes: 88 6.0%

  • a sin against God/Nature.

    Votes: 145 9.8%

  • OK as long as they don't talk about it.

    Votes: 62 4.2%

  • OK for anybody.

    Votes: 417 28.2%

  • nobody's business but the people involved.

    Votes: 765 51.8%
  • Total voters
    1,477
Leviticus 19:27 reads "You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard."

Leviticus 11:8, which is discussing pigs, reads "You shall not eat of their flesh nor touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you."

Genesis 38:9-10: "Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother's wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord; so He took his life also."

Leviticus 19:28 reads, "You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the Lord."

Leviticus 19:19 reads, "You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together."

Mark 10:11-12, "And He said to them, 'Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery.'"

Deuteronomy 23:1 reads (this is the God's Word translation, which spells it out better), "A man whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off may never join the assembly of the Lord."

Timothy 2:9 "Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments."

Leviticus 11:10 reads, "But whatever is in the seas and in the rivers that does not have fins and scales among all the teeming life of the water, and among all the living creatures that are in the water, they are detestable things to you."
 
It's very rare to see someone with 7 or 8 posts on a gaming fan site immediately zero in on the most controversial threads that happen to be very unrelated to gt.

Just saying :D Welcome all the same if you are actually a new member.
 
The Book of Leviticus is like a particularly needy girlfriend.
 
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I could pick and choose Bible quotes which contradict any of the above statements, which love all and accept all of His creations...what's the point?
 
Pupik
I could pick and choose Bible quotes which contradict any of the above statements, which love all and accept all of His creations...what's the point?
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I wish Christian leaders would do that. I highly recommend this book to get an idea of how easy it would be for Christian leadership to accept and embrace homosexuality: http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307948099/?tag=gtplanet-20
 
Pupik
I could pick and choose Bible quotes which contradict any of the above statements, which love all and accept all of His creations...what's the point?
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I can very specifically quote Jesus overruling the concept of unclean food. It comes along with the bits where he accuses the priests of claiming man's law to be God's law, which has to bring about questions of all kinds of Old Testament laws, for Christians.
 
Liquid
Please do, FK.
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Mark 7:1-23

Along the way, even his disciples get confused and he has to make it very simple.

17 After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
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Could that not be interpreted as also saying drugs are fine? If things that enter us don't defile us.
 
Liquid
Could that not be interpreted as also saying drugs are fine? If things that enter us don't defile us.
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Being raised as a southern baptist, where I was taught that we shouldn't drink alcohol or dance, mood-altering substances and/or activities are seen more as a way of inviting in temptation and sin, or so it was explained to 15-year-old me when I asked the pastor about King David dancing and Jesus drinking wine. Tobacco was fine. Some more strict denominations go with the whole body is a temple thing.

And all this is why I haven't claimed a specific denomination or church membership in about a decade (I think I may technically still be a member in the church I grew up in). Much like Judaism created laws of what are primarily good cleanliness and social behavior rules (which is why I let the Leviticus reference to homosexuality hold little sway in my beliefs), modern Christians create rules out of what is essentially good advice for avoiding temptation. Fast forward a few decades/centuries and suddenly its all tied into fire and brimstone speeches.

As a teenager I found it very revealing to simply ask, "Why?"
 
FoolKiller
Weird. We must have different Bibles.

Do not judge God based on those who claim to speak for him. Jesus even warned of them.
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I believe the book you quoted from incorporates a God from a previous book. That God (the same God Christians pray to) told us to stone the infidels, homosexuals, and adulterers.

Christians like to forget that they worship the god of the old testament, but they do.

FoolKiller
When Danny said, "That's Christian," it is Christian to love those around you, even if you believe them to be non-believers. It is also Christian to recognize that we all sin and that someone doing something you believe to be a sin, but not harming others, is no worse than you. And by 'Christian' I mean following the teachings of Christ (or the fiction of his teachings, as you think of them), not following the teachings of some guy claiming to speak for God and whose only authority is given by his ability to make a group of people sit and listen to him at least once a week.
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Christianity may include following the teachings of Christ about loving everyone etc. etc. But it also includes worship of a God who instructed humanity to judge and stone one another for very arbitrary reasons. Christianity also directly preaches that God doesn't care as much about you being a good person as he does about you believing in him and feeling bad about the bad things you've done. Ask for forgiveness and believe and you shall be forgiven. That's all that matters, being good is just a way to try to make sure you've been forgiven for everything before you die.

They told me that no matter what I did or felt, God would still love me and so would they.
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Unless what you did was have sex with someone who has the same genitals as you and you felt no remorse for it before the eyes of a wrathful god... in which case you'll be tortured for eternity. Unless what you felt was the God doesn't exist.... in which case you'll be tortured for eternity. Unless what you felt was the Jesus Christ was just a man and not the son of God, or you worshiped a gold statue of Jesus, or you coveted your neighbors hot wife and felt no remorse... in which case you'll be tortured for eternity.

No the above quote is not consistent with Christianity.
 
I think FoolKiller and Danoff's points accurately demonstrate that one can pick and choose both positive and negative aspects of the Bible.

It'd be better suited for the God thread.
 
LONDON – The House of Lords overwhelmingly voted today to approve the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill, in a third and final reading.

Later today, the bill goes back to the House of Commons to take up the amendments to the bill, which the lower chamber of Parliament passed 366-161 on May 21. The revised bill is expected to pass by a wide margin.

The marriage bill will only apply to England and Wales, not the rest of the United Kingdom.

The marriage issue generated a lively debate throughout the United Kingdom, and supporters of equal rights agreed to protect religious leaders on marriage matters. The bill bans the powerful Church of England and the Church in Wales from offering same-gender marriages, and protects other religions that wish to prohibit such weddings.

Same-gender marriage has been legalized in Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, the Netherlands (and the Caribbean island of Saba), New Zealand (August 2013), Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden and Uruguay (Aug. 2013). Legal experts are now debating whether Costa Rica has also legalized same-gender marriage.

In Mexico, same-gender marriage is available in the Federal District (Mexico City) and in the states of Oaxaca and Quintana Roo. The marriages are recognized nationwide by Supreme Court order.

In the United States, same-gender marriage has been legalized in Connecticut, Delaware, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota (Aug. 1), New Hampshire, New York, Rhode Island (Aug. 1), Vermont and Washington -- and in Washington, D.C. It also is legal within the Coquille Indian tribe in Oregon, the Suquamish Indian tribe in Washington state and the Little Traverse Bay Bands of Odawa Indians in Michigan.
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:cheers:

I'mma marry e'ryone. That's how it works, right?
 
Same-gender marriage has been legalized in Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, the Netherlands (and the Caribbean island of Saba), New Zealand (August 2013), Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden and Uruguay (Aug. 2013). Legal experts are now debating whether Costa Rica has also legalized same-gender marriage.
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I hate Germany.
 
Tsk tsk. I always knew Britain would go down the path of moral decay. I mean, they sent us Piers Morgan for Christ's sake.
 
I'm dreading the Daily Fail and the Waily Express's reactions. :nervous:
 
Noob616
Tsk tsk. I always knew Britain would go down the path of moral decay. I mean, they sent us Piers Morgan for Christ's sake.
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I don't get what's wrong, haven't they just said churches can choose not to marry gay couples if they don't want to? Or am I missing something?
 
Has there been anything lately about gay marriage and Russia? One of my friends who is from Russia is actually quite supportive of gay people, but doesn't support marriage because of her religion, and from what I know, Russia is probably the worst country in Eurasia to be gay.

Again, just wondering.
 
VanquishedFox
Has there been anything lately about gay marriage and Russia? One of my friends who is from Russia is actually quite supportive of gay people, but doesn't support marriage because of her religion, and from what I know, Russia is probably the worst country in Eurasia to be gay.

Again, just wondering.
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In Eurasia? Considering that Eurasia is an amalgamation of Europe and Asia, there are far worse countries than Russia to be gay in (e.g. Saudi Arabia).

Don't take this the wrong way, I find the Russian government's scapegoating of gays disgusting, and it seems with the tentacles of the Orthodox Church encroaching ever further, their plight won't end any time soon.
 

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