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The decades-long mystery of cattle mutilations continues.
Large numbers of expensive animals are found horribly mutilated. Cuts are done with surgical precision. Tongues and sex organs are removed. No blood, footprints, tire tracks or other evidence is typically found. Scavengers avoid approaching or eating the corpse. Investigations over decades and logic have provided no answers. I have seen some of these "mutes" myself while doing petroglyph research on Indian reservations in the Pacific Northwest and desert Southwest. My hypothesis is a covert epidemiological survey by operatives in the USG, DoD or DoE.
https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2020...d-latest-strange-cattle-mutilation-in-oregon/
Vultures Mysteriously Avoid Latest Strange Cattle Mutilation in Oregon
Paul SeaburnOctober 2, 2020
“Although I had seen the photos, it was a discomforting experience – not just because of the inhumane damage to the cow, but the lack of any evidence. There was no sign of blood nor had any predators – and there are many in the area – done anything to the carcass.”
While horse and pony mutilations continue without resolution in France, Sweden and other parts of Europe, Oregon is becoming ground chuck zero for cattle mutilations in the U.S. The latest, investigated by Umatilla County Commissioner George Murdock, a cattle rancher himself, was both horrific and puzzling. Fee Stubblefield was inspecting his ranch outside of Ukiah (a tiny town in far northeast Oregon) on September 12 when he found the bloodless carcass on one of his cows with the skin around its mouth sliced off, its tongue, glands and sex organs removed and an ear cut off and placed on its neck. (Grisly photos here.)
Did you look? Its pretty bad. Why can’t they stop this?
This didn’t look like the work of a wild animal or an organ-harvesting space alien … except for one peculiarity. The Oregon State Police responded immediately and asked him to leave the carcass in the field with trail cameras set up to monitor it. No spaceships have landed, but there may be a reason why, according to the Capital Press.
“According to Stubblefield, that footage has revealed another disconcerting detail: predators and scavengers are avoiding and refusing to eat the carcass. Coyotes have approached the area but keep their distance, he said, and birds will land on the body briefly before flying away.”
One would think an autopsy should have been taken to determine what might cause scavengers to avoid fresh meat, but that’s apparently not how they roll in Oregon, even though this is just the latest of an epidemic of mysterious cattle mutilations in the state over the past year, including a mysterious one in August where the cow was found kneeling as if propped up.
Or praying someone stops these serial cow mutilations?
Good luck with that. Capital Press points out there were hundreds of similar mutilations – tongues and genitals removed – in the 1970s and the FBI never caught any culprits – rustlers, Satanists, aliens or otherwise. Stubblefield has his own theory.
“The Silvies Ranch lost several bulls last year and just this spring we lost a steer in this manner near Pilot Rock. These killings could be for ritual committed by someone with knowledge of our area.”
While it’s entertaining to blame extraterrestrials, it’s almost always cattle (in the U.S.), rarely more than a few organs and has been going on for years without resolution. Wouldn’t ETs capable of traveling light years be equally capable of abducting a variety of creatures, do their analysis quickly and spread the word universally that there’s no intelligent life on the wet blue orb?
Which brings us back to what would seem to be obvious – why not do an autopsy to determine why the corpse was left alone by all other hungry animals and birds? Even humans eat old meat if it doesn’t smell too bad and they have enough ketchup. There are a few who believe these mutilations are being covered up by the government, possibly to secretly track the spread of known or experimental bovine diseases. If so, why leave most of the evidence behind? And why haven’t any ranchers reported strange cars, helicopters or aircraft? Beef is big business in the U.S. Could the ranchers themselves be in on the cover-up to preserve or grow their operations, which are being threatened by meatless beef or worse … tofu?
It’s always suspicious when there no autopsy after mysterious human deaths. These mysterious cattle deaths are no different.
Why no autopsy?
Large numbers of expensive animals are found horribly mutilated. Cuts are done with surgical precision. Tongues and sex organs are removed. No blood, footprints, tire tracks or other evidence is typically found. Scavengers avoid approaching or eating the corpse. Investigations over decades and logic have provided no answers. I have seen some of these "mutes" myself while doing petroglyph research on Indian reservations in the Pacific Northwest and desert Southwest. My hypothesis is a covert epidemiological survey by operatives in the USG, DoD or DoE.
https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2020...d-latest-strange-cattle-mutilation-in-oregon/
Vultures Mysteriously Avoid Latest Strange Cattle Mutilation in Oregon
Paul SeaburnOctober 2, 2020
“Although I had seen the photos, it was a discomforting experience – not just because of the inhumane damage to the cow, but the lack of any evidence. There was no sign of blood nor had any predators – and there are many in the area – done anything to the carcass.”
While horse and pony mutilations continue without resolution in France, Sweden and other parts of Europe, Oregon is becoming ground chuck zero for cattle mutilations in the U.S. The latest, investigated by Umatilla County Commissioner George Murdock, a cattle rancher himself, was both horrific and puzzling. Fee Stubblefield was inspecting his ranch outside of Ukiah (a tiny town in far northeast Oregon) on September 12 when he found the bloodless carcass on one of his cows with the skin around its mouth sliced off, its tongue, glands and sex organs removed and an ear cut off and placed on its neck. (Grisly photos here.)
Did you look? Its pretty bad. Why can’t they stop this?
This didn’t look like the work of a wild animal or an organ-harvesting space alien … except for one peculiarity. The Oregon State Police responded immediately and asked him to leave the carcass in the field with trail cameras set up to monitor it. No spaceships have landed, but there may be a reason why, according to the Capital Press.
“According to Stubblefield, that footage has revealed another disconcerting detail: predators and scavengers are avoiding and refusing to eat the carcass. Coyotes have approached the area but keep their distance, he said, and birds will land on the body briefly before flying away.”
One would think an autopsy should have been taken to determine what might cause scavengers to avoid fresh meat, but that’s apparently not how they roll in Oregon, even though this is just the latest of an epidemic of mysterious cattle mutilations in the state over the past year, including a mysterious one in August where the cow was found kneeling as if propped up.
Or praying someone stops these serial cow mutilations?
Good luck with that. Capital Press points out there were hundreds of similar mutilations – tongues and genitals removed – in the 1970s and the FBI never caught any culprits – rustlers, Satanists, aliens or otherwise. Stubblefield has his own theory.
“The Silvies Ranch lost several bulls last year and just this spring we lost a steer in this manner near Pilot Rock. These killings could be for ritual committed by someone with knowledge of our area.”
While it’s entertaining to blame extraterrestrials, it’s almost always cattle (in the U.S.), rarely more than a few organs and has been going on for years without resolution. Wouldn’t ETs capable of traveling light years be equally capable of abducting a variety of creatures, do their analysis quickly and spread the word universally that there’s no intelligent life on the wet blue orb?
Which brings us back to what would seem to be obvious – why not do an autopsy to determine why the corpse was left alone by all other hungry animals and birds? Even humans eat old meat if it doesn’t smell too bad and they have enough ketchup. There are a few who believe these mutilations are being covered up by the government, possibly to secretly track the spread of known or experimental bovine diseases. If so, why leave most of the evidence behind? And why haven’t any ranchers reported strange cars, helicopters or aircraft? Beef is big business in the U.S. Could the ranchers themselves be in on the cover-up to preserve or grow their operations, which are being threatened by meatless beef or worse … tofu?
It’s always suspicious when there no autopsy after mysterious human deaths. These mysterious cattle deaths are no different.
Why no autopsy?
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If Zuckerberg wasn't on the list before he certainly will be now...
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The five "real" conspiracies you need to worry about?
TLDR: the five conspiracies in this article are,
Is it basically just capitalism?
TLDR: the five conspiracies in this article are,
- Conspiracy to turn the world into a giant marketplace for the benefit of the wealthy elite
- Conspiracy by transnational corporations to turn billions of people into addicts
- Conspiracy to plunder the Global South for the benefit of the Global North
- Conspiracy to hide the effects of climate breakdown for corporate profit
- Conspiracy to grow the global economy indefinitely, while killing most of life on Earth and risking the collapse of civilization.
Is it basically just capitalism?
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Classified and redacted official records held by the FB! and CIA pertaining to the 1963 assassination of US President Kennedy were scheduled for release in 2017. A few have been released, but most remain redacted and still secret. Trump agreed to the delay, which may never end, on the grounds of an unacceptable threat to vital national interests.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...il-2021-bowing-to-national-security-concerns/
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Is this evidence of a conspiracy ?
Three leading medical journals have refused to publish the results of the first major scientific investigation into the effects of wearing masks on the spread of COVID-19. The authors of the long-awaited “gold-standard” randomised controlled trial have admitted their findings are “controversial” and are keeping them secret until their paper has been peer-reviewed and published. The Danish newspaper Berlingske has the details.
Professor: Large Danish mask study rejected by three top journals
The researchers behind a large and unique Danish study on the effect of wearing a mask are having great difficulty in getting their research results published. One of the participating professors in the study admits that the still secret research result could be perceived as ‘controversial’.
For weeks, the media and researchers around the world have been waiting with increasing impatience for the publication of a large Danish study on the effect – or lack thereof – of wearing a mask in a public space during the corona pandemic.
Now one of the researchers who has been involved in the study has said that the finished research result has been rejected by at least three of the world’s leading medical journals.
These include the Lancet, the New England Journal of Medicine and the American Medical Association’s journal JAMA.
“They all said no,” says the Chief Physician in the Research Department at North Zealand Hospital, Professor Christian Torp-Pedersen.
However, the Professor does not wish to disclose the journals’ reasoning.
“We cannot start discussing what they are dissatisfied with, because in that case we must also explain what the study showed – and we do not want to discuss that until it is published,” explains Christian Torp-Pedersen.
The study was initiated at the end of April, following a grant of DKK 5m [£600,000] from the Salling Foundations [owner of the Salling Group, Denmark’s largest retailer]. It involved as many as 6,000 Danes, half of whom had to wear face masks in public over a long period of time. The other half was selected as the control group.
A large proportion of the test participants were employees of the Salling Group’s supermarkets: Bilka, Føtex and Netto.
The study and its size are unique, and the purpose was once and for all to try to clarify the extent to which the use of face masks in public spaces provides protection against coronavirus infections.
One of the co-authors, Henrik Ullum, tweeted yesterday they are “very unhappy”.
https://lockdownsceptics.org/page/2/
Do lock-downs actually increase the rate of covid-infections? If one person has it in the house, will a lock-down mean that everyone in the house will get it? {Just a thought trying to get into a box}
Three leading medical journals have refused to publish the results of the first major scientific investigation into the effects of wearing masks on the spread of COVID-19. The authors of the long-awaited “gold-standard” randomised controlled trial have admitted their findings are “controversial” and are keeping them secret until their paper has been peer-reviewed and published. The Danish newspaper Berlingske has the details.
Professor: Large Danish mask study rejected by three top journals
The researchers behind a large and unique Danish study on the effect of wearing a mask are having great difficulty in getting their research results published. One of the participating professors in the study admits that the still secret research result could be perceived as ‘controversial’.
For weeks, the media and researchers around the world have been waiting with increasing impatience for the publication of a large Danish study on the effect – or lack thereof – of wearing a mask in a public space during the corona pandemic.
Now one of the researchers who has been involved in the study has said that the finished research result has been rejected by at least three of the world’s leading medical journals.
These include the Lancet, the New England Journal of Medicine and the American Medical Association’s journal JAMA.
“They all said no,” says the Chief Physician in the Research Department at North Zealand Hospital, Professor Christian Torp-Pedersen.
However, the Professor does not wish to disclose the journals’ reasoning.
“We cannot start discussing what they are dissatisfied with, because in that case we must also explain what the study showed – and we do not want to discuss that until it is published,” explains Christian Torp-Pedersen.
The study was initiated at the end of April, following a grant of DKK 5m [£600,000] from the Salling Foundations [owner of the Salling Group, Denmark’s largest retailer]. It involved as many as 6,000 Danes, half of whom had to wear face masks in public over a long period of time. The other half was selected as the control group.
A large proportion of the test participants were employees of the Salling Group’s supermarkets: Bilka, Føtex and Netto.
The study and its size are unique, and the purpose was once and for all to try to clarify the extent to which the use of face masks in public spaces provides protection against coronavirus infections.
One of the co-authors, Henrik Ullum, tweeted yesterday they are “very unhappy”.
https://lockdownsceptics.org/page/2/
Do lock-downs actually increase the rate of covid-infections? If one person has it in the house, will a lock-down mean that everyone in the house will get it? {Just a thought trying to get into a box}
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Long answer: no, it's bollocks.
So actually it's you who is prejudging what the study showed, the reasons for it being rejected from three journals, and then trying to use your imagined facts to say that something has/is happen/ed/ing.
Let's get the facts and see how they all fit together. If Rothschild lets us have them, that is.
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This is BS. It's 2020, not 1440. You don't even need a printing press to publish any more, thanks to computers. You do not need to have your paper published in a large journal if you think it important that it's results are widely available. And pre-prints are absolutely a thing that many researchers do, and has been common for decades.
The only conspiracy here is why the authors of the study are choosing to withhold the results. Possibly because the story around a mask study paper being rejected by major journals is more engaging than the actual results of the study, and it at least gets the name of their sponsor out there and circulating. Lots more mentions of Salling Foundations and their charitable works this way than if they'd published a bad or inconclusive paper in an open source journal.
If they had something that they thought was genuinely going to save lives, then they would have published openly at the first sign of pushback from the major journals. It's not like the major journals pay anything for the privilege of publishing in them.
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In the absence of any further information my own personal conspiracy theory is that their methodology was so out of whack that they couldn't find anyone else to publish or agree with their results, so they decided to kick up a stink in the hope that the conspiracy crowd would publicise their findings for them.
But let's see what the peer reviews say should the paper ever see the light of day.
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You've judged that the paper was rejected for valid reasons. How do you know that is true?
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Investigations at various locations on Oak Island are starting to get exciting and serious. Canada has 3 archeologists working with the dig teams, as wells as a geophysics professor and a geologist. Everything being done is being permitted and going by the book. The overall picture is still puzzling and there are many theories and probably at least two major phases of underground construction and tunneling beginning as early as the 13th Century and ending perhaps 35 years before the "money pit" was discovered in about 1795. Not only do they anticipate discovery of some great treasure, but rewriting the history of North American discovery and exploitation.
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The facts are that the report isn't being printed, and it's the choice of the authors not to do so. They may be blocked from publishing in the most prestigious journals, but that goes for the vast majority of research papers that also do not get published in top level journals.
If they have valid results that they want to discuss with the scientific community, then there is nothing stopping them from self-publishing. And since the only people actually involved in holding this information back are the authors, I think describing it as a "conspiracy" is really stretching the definition of the word. The only secretive thing about this is the actual results of the paper - the rest is a pretty black and white story of authors getting rejected by major journals, getting butthurt and deciding that they'll get more value out of trying to turn it into something political.
And that's how you know that they're not actually interested in the science. They have an agenda, and they're pursuing it in the most practical way available to them now that the prestige journals have said no.
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I think that sums it up. If they have well-researched work which demonstrates that the predominant medical thinking is grossly incorrect (and potentially leading to a misplaced sense of safe procedure) then their ethical responsibility is to publish and review. They've had a long time now in the fast-moving 2020 world of Covid science and they've done/said nothing else that I'm aware of? It begs lots of questions.
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So the study did say that Masks were basically useless. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...op-covid-iowa-gov-insists-there-evidence-both
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Share another source commenting on the study, please.
Far-right websites (which is exactly what Zero Hedge is), esp. one that then links to a tweet made by another far-right publication's founder (The Federalist), have on multiple occasions, taken these sorts of studies & purposely misconstrued the information by hiding the whole study.
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Oh, and if you need proof of this, your link is a shining example of misconstruing.
Here's what she actually clarified.
Far-right websites (which is exactly what Zero Hedge is), esp. one that then links to a tweet made by another far-right publication's founder (The Federalist), have on multiple occasions, taken these sorts of studies & purposely misconstrued the information by hiding the whole study.
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Oh, and if you need proof of this, your link is a shining example of misconstruing.
Here's what she actually clarified.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...y-claims-theres-science-on-both-sides-of-mask
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