The Love Therapy Thread

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Arch, nope. Sorry. But I'm not giving up on this one. I give in to most arguments, but not this one. Sorry, but I know what I know. And I know I was in love up until a few days ago, and I'm not going to let go of that, nor am I going to let go of the fact that some kids, no matter how young they might be, still know things including love, that may still be oblivious to ones older than themselves. :)

EDIT: @McLaren. No. That's not true at all. Love isn't just about holding hands and sharing a kiss, and like hell I think that way. Lemme put it this way. There are 2 types of love.
1. A love from one side. This is referred to some as a 'crush' (although personally I don't like this word. Some people think single sided love and a crush are 2 totally different things. I believe they are the same). Where one person has such emotion feelings for one, but the other may not know it.
2. Double sided love. This is where both sides love each-other equally, and they both know how either one feels. 'Soul mating' comes into this catagory.

As far as my feelings for the girl I loved, well they were the 1st category. I was so madly in love with her, yet she didn't know it. And if I actually reveal who this person is, people will start telling me to see a therapist. So as long as this topic stands, she will remain nameless.

EDIT 2: Thanks, but you don't have to tell me that I just told you everything you knew. ;)

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Talon
Sorry man, all you're doing now is proving our point.

There's no freakin way you could be in love with someone if they didn't know it. You would have to be somewhat intimate with that person, and that doesn't sound like the case.

Also, a crush is not love. A crush is you like someone's body, and they happen to have a nice personality too.
 
Again with the 🤬 age. :grumpy:



That aint funny. *stare*

Well - usually users of an older age and more mature disposition wouldn't generally add stage directions into their posts for increased dramatic effect.

*Sits back in chair, arms folded, nodding at the point he's just made - then leaning back too much and falling off said chair with a thump, before picking himself up, dusting himself off, regaining composure and sitting back on the chair again*

As far as my feelings for the girl I loved, well they were the 1st category. I was so madly in love with her, yet she didn't know it. And if I actually reveal who this person is, people will start telling me to see a therapist. So as long as this topic stands, she will remain nameless.

So you had a very one sided crush on a fictional character in a book? Leslie Burke is actually toothpaste green, rampant with HIV and a rather obnoxious bitch. There - I wrote that, its in writing, and just as valid.

Don't worry man - while it hasn't happened with me, its not the weirdest thing that can happen. And people (I hate to bring this up....) your age are at a point sometimes where they are looking for things that can somehow ensure an impossible fantastic perfection. I think this is one of the main roots of the success of the Harry Potter series.
I mean in the big scheme of things, I'd say its quite minor compared to objectumsexualism and that weird epidemic in Japan having lonely men (grown up men, to be precise) having relationships with animae characters printed on pillow cases. Your case (assuming I have spotted it) is just that of a good fictional character. Women swoon for P&P's Mr Darcy all the time, and heaps of people wanted to go visit Pandora after watching Avatar...

Unless I took a real weird turnoff point for this conversation and I have arrived at a funeral in a pink suit and helicopter hat...

Why on earth are you miffed that you are over it? The empty feeling will go away - just be glad its not pining - that stuff still sucks...
 
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EDIT: @McLaren. No. That's not true at all. Love isn't just about holding hands and sharing a kiss, and like hell I think that way
But it is for most kids your age & somewhat above.

Lemme put it this way. There are 2 types of love.
1. A love from one side. This is referred to some as a 'crush' (although personally I don't like this word. Some people think single sided love and a crush are 2 totally different things. I believe they are the same). Where one person has such emotion feelings for one, but the other may not know it.
Not love. Anything beyond a simple crush is actually more like a stalker.
2. Double sided love. This is where both sides love each-other equally, and they both know how either one feels. 'Soul mating' comes into this catagory.
That's the basic premise of it, but that's not exactly how you define love either.
As far as my feelings for the girl I loved, well they were the 1st category. I was so madly in love with her, yet she didn't know it. And if I actually reveal who this person is, people will start telling me to see a therapist. So as long as this topic stands, she will remain nameless.
You weren't in love with her. You had a large crush on her.

In fact, your exact situation reminds of a Law & Order episode I saw last night. Guy loved Girl, but she didn't think much of him beyond a fan. Guy sent Girl flowers & cute messages. Girl gets raped & killed by 2 other guys. Guy ends up murdering both men in revenge.

Know what they ended up calling Guy at the end of the episode when he expressed his true feelings for Girl when interviewed by the detective?












A stalker.
 
:lol:Aaaaand after a brief period of serious, this thread is again all about the lolz!
👍
 
well, I got no lolz.. but yet again, I'm finding the only therapy for love gone wrong is alcohol, and lots of it!
 
There's no freakin way you could be in love with someone if they didn't know it. You would have to be somewhat intimate with that person, and that doesn't sound like the case.
Not nessacarily. It depends what you think of that person. If you think of them as just a hot I wanna have a one night stand with you type thing, then that's true. But I didn't think of her that way.

Well - usually users of an older age and more mature disposition wouldn't generally add stage directions into their posts for increased dramatic effect.
Hmmm. Well that's a matter of opinion. :lol:

*Sits back in chair, arms folded, nodding at the point he's just made - then leaning back too much and falling off said chair with a thump, before picking himself up, dusting himself off, regaining composure and sitting back on the chair again*
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So you had a very one sided crush on a fictional character in a book? Leslie Burke is actually toothpaste green, rampant with HIV and a rather obnoxious bitch. There - I wrote that, its in writing, and just as valid.
God no. Like I said, she will remain nameless. Because people will tell me that I'm as nutty as a fruit cake. It has something to do with Bridge to Terabithia yes, but I'm not telling you. If you work it out for yourself fair enough, but if ANYONE says anything about me being stupid, or psychic, they will pay. *slams fist in hand*

Don't worry man - while it hasn't happened with me, its not the weirdest thing that can happen. And people (I hate to bring this up....) your age are at a point sometimes where they are looking for things that can somehow ensure an impossible fantastic perfection. I think this is one of the main roots of the success of the Harry Potter series.
I mean in the big scheme of things, I'd say its quite minor compared to objectumsexualism and that weird epidemic in Japan having lonely men (grown up men, to be precise) having relationships with animae characters printed on pillow cases. Your case (assuming I have spotted it) is just that of a good fictional character. Women swoon for P&P's Mr Darcy all the time, and heaps of people wanted to go visit Pandora after watching Avatar...
No, I was not in love with someone out of a book.

Unless I took a real weird turnoff point for this conversation and I have arrived at a funeral in a pink suit and helicopter hat...

Why on earth are you miffed that you are over it? The empty feeling will go away - just be glad its not pining - that stuff still sucks...
It's just that it's too late now,a nd it's affected me dearly.

Its probably his mother. Frued was right in his case.
:lol: That's what she said.

But it is for most kids your age & somewhat above.


Not love. Anything beyond a simple crush is actually more like a stalker.

That's the basic premise of it, but that's not exactly how you define love either.

You weren't in love with her. You had a large crush on her.
*stares*

In fact, your exact situation reminds of a Law & Order episode I saw last night. Guy loved Girl, but she didn't think much of him beyond a fan. Guy sent Girl flowers & cute messages. Girl gets raped & killed by 2 other guys. Guy ends up murdering both men in revenge.
Well that's just about where I am. Only 'Girl' isn't going to get raped.

Know what they ended up calling Guy at the end of the episode when he expressed his true feelings for Girl when interviewed by the detective?
A stalker.
Too bad. I don't care what they think about me. I loved her and that's it. But it's too late now. And this wasn't just that my love faded out. It was forced by someone. I had no control over it. And as much as I tried to get my feelings back for her.....I just couldn't. It ripped me apart.

:lol:Aaaaand after a brief period of serious, this thread is again all about the lolz!
👍
:lol:

well, I got no lolz.. but yet again, I'm finding the only therapy for love gone wrong is alcohol, and lots of it!
:cheers: :lol:

And maybe a cute brunette. :sly:
You wish. :lol:
 
Me: I'm a bit depressed. Maybe this thread will help me out!

*Reads (most of) thread*

:lol:
 
Oook. But this is one battle I'm not giving up. No I havn't had sax or anything that drastic, god I haven't had a first kiss (due to that bloody teacher), but I know what love is. Even though you'll say: "I'm 16 and when I was 13 I had a crush I thought it was love, etc etc", I know.

 
God no. Like I said, she will remain nameless. Because people will tell me that I'm as nutty as a fruit cake. It has something to do with Bridge to Terabithia yes, but I'm not telling you. If you work it out for yourself fair enough, but if ANYONE says anything about me being stupid, or psychic, they will pay. *slams fist in hand*

You're crushing on/stalking Annasophia Robb? It's either that or your crush died on a swing in the woods. (That is honestly the only 2 things I can remember from that movie)

From,
Chris.
 
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You're crushing on/stalking Annasophia Robb? It's either that or your crush died on a swing in the woods. (That is honestly the only 2 things I can remember from that movie)

From,
Chris.

Its probably his neighbor who he stalks / has a crush on.
 
You're crushing on/stalking Annasophia Robb? It's either that or your crush died on a swing in the woods. (That is honestly the only 2 things I can remember from that movie)

From,
Chris.
Oh great. Nope, my love didn't die swinging on a rope, it's AnnaSophia. There now everybody knows. I loved AnnaSophia Robb, until a couple of bozos wrecked the whole thing. Before that I had 2 things that kept me alive. My love and my passion. My love for AnnaSophia, and my passion in music. Now that I've lost my feelings for AnnaSophia, I'm only left with one thing. Music. It's all I've got for now. Unless I find someone else that I love, or get my feelings for AnnaSophia back, I'm on thin ice.

P.S. For all you who are going to say, "It wasn't love." "It was just a crush" "She's a celebrity, get over her." Well here's a newsflash. It was love. It wasn't a crush. A crush is a word they use for wanting to have 🤬 with someone just because they look good. It's a word they use in tiny-bopper soap operas. Love is something we use in reality. And as for the last comment. No. I'm not. Even though I've lost my feelings for her, I'm one of those people that will do anything and everything. I am going to be touring in the states within the next 3-4 years if less, and I was going to meet her. It's exactly the same as loving a girl that's in your geography class, and going to meet her and ask her to dinner at the cafeteria area (just without the somewhat 5000 km of ocean between us). I mean all this in the nicest way possible, I just need a message put across that I am not the useral 13 year old, hormones/emotions kicking in, got crushes on every hot girl that walks past type of kid. I know everyone is trying to help by not getting my hopes up, trying to talk me out of it etc, and I appreciate that. I just......well I don't know, I just......I just don't know. *breaths in very quickly from lack of breath, passes out, wakes up and gets beer from fridge, sits on chair, falls of chair, gets back up and switches Bathurst V8 Supercar racing on.* *ignores everyone and everything around him, until someone says something*

 
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And I'm in love with Halle Berry. What's your point?
 


P.S. For all you who are going to say, "It wasn't love." "It was just a crush" "She's a celebrity, get over her." Well here's a newsflash. It was love. It wasn't a crush. A crush is a word they use for wanting to have 🤬 with someone just because they look good. It's a word they use in tiny-bopper soap operas. Love is something we use in reality. And as for the last comment. No. I'm not. Even though I've lost my feelings for her, I'm one of those people that will do anything and everything. I am going to be touring in the states within the next 3-4 years if less, and I was going to meet her. It's exactly the same as loving a girl that's in your geography class, and going to meet her and ask her to dinner at the cafeteria area (just without the somewhat 5000 km of ocean between us). I mean all this in the nicest way possible, I just need a message put across that I am not the useral 13 year old, hormones/emotions kicking in, got crushes on every hot girl that walks past type of kid. *breaths in very quickly from lack of breath, passes out, wakes up and gets beer from fridge, sits on chair, falls of chair, gets back up and switches Bathurst V8 Supercar racing on.* *ignores everyone and everything around him, until someone says something*


This just demonstrates to me that you don't know what love is. A crush does not mean you want to 🤬 them, it means you are attracted to them in some way. You do not have love a girl in your Geography class that you're going to meet, you have a crush on/fancy them. You fall in love with someone through a combination of having a crush on them and getting to know them and realising you are compatible (and this can be a quick process or take some time but does rely on communication). You cannot do this with someone you have never spoken too.

As for the I'm not the usual 13 year old, I have worked with people your age for 10 years and if I have a £1 for everyone who has said that, well I wouldn't be working with them any longer. It's good to have aspirations but I have taught many talented people with dreams of making it big which never came to anything. Not saying you won't be famous but I'd try to remain grounded if I was you. Oh, and telling people how good you are and how you will be the next big thing isn't a great way to go about achieving your dreams, believe me.
 
You cannot do this [fall in love] with someone you have never spoken to.

This.

As for the I'm not the usual 13 year old, I have worked with people your age for 10 years and if I have a £1 for everyone who has said that, well I wouldn't be working with them any longer.

Very this. Everyone thinks they're not "the usual". Most of us are - that's what makes it "usual".

Oh, and telling people how good you are and how you will be the next big thing isn't a great way to go about achieving your dreams, believe me.

It's what happens if you listen to too much modern music - especially rap - which seems to be all about telling everyone how awesome you are and how much stuff you have. Kanye "Voice of a generation; Genius" West, I'm looking at you, you gay fish.
 
And I'm in love with Halle Berry. What's your point?
There is no point. I was covering my own rear end for the lavish of posts saying how I can't control my own love life.

This just demonstrates to me that you don't know what love is. A crush does not mean you want to 🤬 them, it means you are attracted to them in some way. You do not have love a girl in your Geography class that you're going to meet, you have a crush on/fancy them. You fall in love with someone through a combination of having a crush on them and getting to know them and realising you are compatible (and this can be a quick process or take some time but does rely on communication). You cannot do this with someone you have never spoken too.

*sigh* Ok, you know what. If everyone wants me to believe that I had a crush on AnnaSophia Robb, then fine. There. I believe it now. Happy?

As for the I'm not the usual 13 year old, I have worked with people your age for 10 years and if I have a £1 for everyone who has said that, well I wouldn't be working with them any longer. It's good to have aspirations but I have taught many talented people with dreams of making it big which never came to anything. Not saying you won't be famous but I'd try to remain grounded if I was you. Oh, and telling people how good you are and how you will be the next big thing isn't a great way to go about achieving your dreams, believe me.
I have no doubt that you have worked with my age group, and my goal for music has nothing to do with it. That's not the point. The point is, no one believes I can control my own love life. And I'm not trying to brag or say how good I am etc. In order to state my point, I had to......ahh...*sigh*....You know what. That's it. Just forget about it. I never loved AnnaSophia Robb. I'll never get anywhere with music. I'll never be any more than the kid who had dreams. Like every other kid. If that's what you wanted me to say, then I've said it. Ok. :) Good. Glad that's sorted. I'm sorry if I may or may not have bought some people to tears, but I'm in a worse state at this moment in time, plus this is just the way things have worked out now. I'm trying to keep this as nice as possible. :) I'm not trying to do a "Poor Me" thing or wallow in self pity or make you guys feel sad or guilty any other 🤬 that could be said about all this. I've given up trying now so, thanks guys. :)
 
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No one is saying that you won't be successful etc. and your response does exactly what it says you don't want to do and turns it into a self pity thread. People on here are simply trying to give you advice based on experience (which you seem to disregard flagrantly for no apparent reason). However you are unwilling to listen to any of this and dismiss it as wrong, despite expecting us to all acknowledge you are indeed correct. When people point out that this might not be the case, you then adopt the 'Oh well, you're all right, I'm wrong' teenage defence which simply means 'I still don't believe you but am going to turn myself into a victim to get sympathy'

Sorry if this seems a bit harsh but life can sometimes be. The people on here who are trying to help you have encountered many trials and tribulations over the years, just look at some of the other threads in the rumble strip and you will see how devastating/heartbreaking some of these stories are. I suggest that rather than dismiss the advice you are being given and drop the age is nothing, I know as much as anyone else attitude and listen to what people are saying to you.

Like it or not, age and experience are important.
 
Well worded and spot on correct, DGiant2k. 👍
 
No one is saying that you won't be successful etc. and your response does exactly what it says you don't want to do and turns it into a self pity thread. People on here are simply trying to give you advice based on experience (which you seem to disregard flagrantly for no apparent reason). However you are unwilling to listen to any of this and dismiss it as wrong, despite expecting us to all acknowledge you are indeed correct. When people point out that this might not be the case, you then adopt the 'Oh well, you're all right, I'm wrong' teenage defence which simply means 'I still don't believe you but am going to turn myself into a victim to get sympathy'
Yeah, well that's exactly what I was trying to avoid. I'm not just doing the "Oh well you're right, I'm wrong" thing. I am seriously going to just believe you guys. ;) You guys have been around longer than me and have experienced more in the love circle. Especially Famine here. Might as well shoot yourself right then and there if you get in an argument with him! :lol:

Sorry if this seems a bit harsh but life can sometimes be. The people on here who are trying to help you have encountered many trials and tribulations over the years, just look at some of the other threads in the rumble strip and you will see how devastating/heartbreaking some of these stories are. I suggest that rather than dismiss the advice you are being given and drop the age is nothing, I know as much as anyone else attitude and listen to what people are saying to you.

Like it or not, age and experience are important.

Once again I'm not trying to be poor me, or attention seeking, but if I was to post just some of the things that have happened over the last 9 years for me, I would fill the Rumble Strip. Ok, that's a bit extravagant, but I would have (for each subject)...hmm 7 threads I think. If not more. Most of you guys just wouldn't believe half the stuff that has happened. The only problems is if I post these things, i'm libal to end up spending the rest of my teen years with a bloke with Schizophrenia and a girl with Schizophrenia and a history of Pedophilia.

EDIT: Not to mention (this is kinda funny), because I've been evolved with this thread, if I do post some threads about my troubles, people will try to refer back to this to prove that I am an attention seeking, pathetic moron. :lol: I can just see it now! :lol:
 
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Like it or not, age and experience are important.

I was honestly going to keep trolling and posting sarcastic comments for my enjoyment but for some reason I felt compelled to type at least one post in hope that you (tlowr4) would read it and maybe learn something.

When I was 13 I thought I was different. I thought I understood life and its experiences, I thought I understood mortality, and I thought barely anyone could tell me something that I already didn’t know. If they did then they didn’t understand and didn’t realize that I was different. Why did I think that?

Well for starters I was/am (debateable :lol: ) quite smart and in fact I skipped a grade at school. I never had any issues learning and I could grasp new concepts easily and could think outside the box. Study for me was reading the formulas or a few dot points on a subject. Throw in the fact that by 13 I have experienced 5 open heart surgeries and a pacemaker. My most recent surgery as 12yrs went from being a 3 day experience installing a pacemaker to the night before being informed they have to cut open the whole chest again and this means split rib cage and months of rehabilitation. No worries I thought, I had already done that at 4 and 9. However unlike previous visits which lasted about a week and half in hospital with no real complications, I got 3 lots of chest infections and spent 9 weeks in and out of hospital on antibiotics so harsh that my veins collapsed every few hours and I was constantly getting new drips inserted all up my wrists on both arms. The pain from this is something I can still remember. Another fun memory was watching the doctor cut open a few layers of my scar on my chest with his scalpel to remove the puss build up under the skin. So at the mighty old age of 13 I had faced the odds and survived not once but a good 5 times, and not just as a baby either, recent and real. For the sake of this I will also add I had yet another open heart at 14, again cut down the middle and splitting all my ribs, only this time I was fortunate enough to get out with no troubles (other than getting my lungs back and healing my ribs). I could sit here and bring up tons of pity stories about being teased because I was smallest / weakest and due to my heart I was useless at any sport etc etc, but I won’t, just know that they exist.

Anyway with my life experiences and a high level of adult interaction throughout my life (it was easier for me to talk to adults than kids) I thought I knew everything about life and its experiences. I had faced death, I had gone into theatre not knowing if I would come back, been very sick and lived to tell the tale. While my friends worried about useless crap (which I can’t even remember) I had other more pressing issues.

So getting to my point... Just like you I think I’m different, Just like you I’ve had my fair share of “issues” and I don’t know about you (I don’t know you enough) but I was smarter than 95% of my peers, not me bragging just outright facts when it came to the tests. So with all that in mind I had to be different right? I understood so much... I had been through so much. How could anyone possible tell me something I didn’t know when it came to that? HOWEVER what I knew back then is nothing compared to what I know now 9 years later, hell even 4yrs ago is a massive difference in life experiences, even 1yr ago. While your talking about Love and I’m talking about life experiences in general, they are both the same. My perception on everything is far better now than 9 yrs ago and I’m willing to bet as I experience more and more in my life that in 10yrs time it would be even greater again. Chances are someone who has already lived for 30 – 35yrs who is half intelligent would have plenty of things to teach me. Maybe not in some areas but I can certainly bet in others. So when you have someone who is 30 – 40’s married with kids for many years talking to you about love, you would be so ignorant to ignore such obvious experience.

This is something I learned a few years back after talking to someone similar to me both in intellect and in health (he had a double lung transplant and has CF) but unlike me he was 56yrs old. The wisdom and experience this man has. The stories, so many things I thought I knew that he just laughed at and proceeded to give me real experienced advice on why I was either wrong, or why I was missing something. Honestly if you don’t listen or value other people’s opinions especially when they have been through similar you’re just being arrogant and you’re hurting your development. As soon as you realize this, you can learn from other people’s mistakes and not need to make so many yourself.

Age isn’t just a number. Sure at 13 I might have been through a lot, but I was still 13, and at 13 there were things I never had to deal with and never needed to understand. Now at 22 I have my own place, I cook, clean, have a job and I STILL HAVE everything else to deal with that I had at 13. So it would be complete ignorance to think I’m not far better off now than 9yrs ago. You will look back at yourself in 9yrs and just laugh. I will look back at myself in another 9yrs and laugh at me now, but at least I know that and I’m always willing to learn and improve and acknowledge that even with everything I’ve been through, some people can still give me really valuable advice.

If you ask a question about love at 13 and someone who has been married for 20yrs answers listen. If you ask a question about love at 13 and someone who has never had a girlfriend but is 35 answers, then maybe take it with a pinch of salt. But certainly don’t go throwing out the first guys advice just because it may go against what you thought is correct, He has been married longer than your alive, he has had a bit of time to figure it out, you can’t understand how importance experience is until you have a little yourself, only by then it can be too late...

Anyway , I know it’s not the most well written posts, I was natural mathematician and quite useless at English and never bothered to properly master it, But hopefully its coherent enough to make sense and I hope even more that you can learn something from it, something I wished I learnt sooner in life.

Don't dismiss other peoples opinions/advice just because it differs from your own, you could actually be wrong.. especially if they have solid experience and facts to back it up.
 
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Anyway , I know it’s not the most well written posts, I was natural mathematician and quite useless at English and never bothered to properly master it, But hopefully its coherent enough to make sense and I hope even more that you can learn something from it, something I wished I learnt sooner in life.

Best post I have read today and probably for a long time. Thankyou for taking the time to share your experiences for others benefit :cheers:
 
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