The Rolex Sports Car Series /Help Plan Season 2!/

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Well, truth be told I use the Toyota in ALMS, but that's because people complained the Bentley was too fast (now no one even uses it). Toyota is my favorite company, but if the car is taken, don't be mad if I'm mad-fast in the Bentley next season. I'd like to challenge for overall wins to get my experience points up. I had to restart my game a few months back because I accidentally erased all my saved data on the PS3 by doing a hard drive check or whatever it's called.
 
freshseth83
Well, truth be told I use the Toyota in ALMS, but that's because people complained the Bentley was too fast (now no one even uses it). Toyota is my favorite company, but if the car is taken, don't be mad if I'm mad-fast in the Bentley next season. I'd like to challenge for overall wins to get my experience points up. I had to restart my game a few months back because I accidentally erased all my saved data on the PS3 by doing a hard drive check or whatever it's called.
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Tough luck man. (It's the most ironic thing, that I say that to you, today, following yesterday's scuffles...)

But, I think I'd like to see you in the Peugeot. Also, could we test the 905 instead of running two 908s? I would so love to run the 905... but, the 908s are lacklustre. And, the Bentley, as Seth said, is the "Corvette" of the DP world. And, the Toyota's the hot-seat, that everyone wants...
 
Is the Bentley really known for speed? I love it because it handles like its on rails. I always thought the GT ONE was more about speed.

Anyway, I would like to continue on with season 2. I will be in LMP for ALMS so I dont really know where I'll be in this series. I dont want to run two series and be in the same class for both. Most likely GT in this series. I'm really liking the 458 right now. But I will give way to all the veterans of this series first.
 
FlyinHawaiian77
Is the Bentley really known for speed? I love it because it handles like its on rails. I always thought the GT ONE was more about speed.

Anyway, I would like to continue on with season 2. I will be in LMP for ALMS so I dont really know where I'll be in this series. I dont want to run two series and be in the same class for both. Most likely GT in this series. I'm really liking the 458 right now. But I will give way to all the veterans of this series first.
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Did you come to a race? Yes. Did you win a race? Yes. Do you plan to come back? Yes.


Hmmm, I think we're good to go, with FH's veteran of first season status! :P

Congrats on the big 1000 posts.
 
I have a decent setup for the 908 as well. People may get faster times in qualifying than me, but I tune it to have better tire life and more consistency. Fast laps are great, but tire preservation is much more important. BTW, I added an entry in the Race Report section for this series. Gave some insight on my strategy and a little peek into my tuning for the Audi. I won't give away my 'secret setup' until the season is over though.
 
Polar, did you NOT add the talked about "adjustable downforce clause" mentioned in preseason to the front page?
 
Ahh man, I wasnt even paying attention to my post count. Was gonna see if I could make it epic somehow. Thanks for noticing anyway.
 
Pretty sure there was only 5 of us left.

DP
FH
Unreal
Datboi

GT
Seth
MrM.

I know you give points to those who completed laps. I would have to watch the replay again to give you that information.
 
StormPacer
Polar, did you NOT add the talked about "adjustable downforce clause" mentioned in preseason to the front page?
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???

And James, look back a page, there's like 5 lists of finishes.
 
Didn't you say earlier in the series that the Audi and Ferrari were going to have their downforce set to the minimum (25), since they had 10 front downforce in comparison to the Dodge and Chevy?
 
StormPacer
Didn't you say earlier in the series that the Audi and Ferrari were going to have their downforce set to the minimum (25), since they had 10 front downforce in comparison to the Dodge and Chevy?
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I don't remember that. The acr with the gt auto wing doesn't get more than 25?
 
The ACR gets 10 / 40, but I'm not running the ACR am I? I'm running the Coupe. The Coupe get 0 / 20. The Chevy also get 0 / 20.

Just checking back through the thread, looks like is was adeadsnipermatt/pepsimaxcrew that suggested the 25 on Audi & Ferrari, not you. Oops
 
StormPacer
The ACR gets 10 / 40, but I'm not running the ACR am I? I'm running the Coupe. The Coupe get 0 / 20. The Chevy also get 0 / 20.

Just checking back through the thread, looks like is was adeadsnipermatt/pepsimaxcrew that suggested the 25 on Audi & Ferrari, not you. Oops
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Alright, I see now. I wasn't sure if you ment for next season. Would everyone mind trying min. Downforce for the remaining races? Only 2 left and le mans is a high speed track?
 
There's no point now, its too late in the season. Just run it how everyone else has been.

So, for Sarthe, I'm expecting.... 3:55's to 3:58's for the Audi's? 4:05's are probably impossible for me, but I know that Seth and Mel will somehow manage to tear into the sub 3:59's no problems.
 
As for the DC rule first person to DC gets last then so on and so forth for people that DC and polar did you get my message
 
james6653
As for the DC rule first person to DC gets last then so on and so forth for people that DC and polar did you get my message
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No, I havent gotten your message. the full gt order is

1.seth
2.mrm
3.storm
4.polar
 
polarbear345
No, I havent gotten your message. the full gt order is

1.seth
2.mrm
3.storm
4.polar
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Wow that is a really low number of GT cars I resent it again
 
Yeah well, Nirv was at a Summer Ball for University last night and the rest are, I don't know....
 
polarbear345
Alright, I see now. I wasn't sure if you ment for next season. Would everyone mind trying min. Downforce for the remaining races? Only 2 left and le mans is a high speed track?
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Ummmm? That's what I've been running all season... I still think Seth's an idiot for running any more... I mean, he complains about front tire life, though I've got all four to last for the same amount of time, by making the rear end swing in every corner. That's why my car looks like a ferret on ice under braking.
 
MrMelancholy15
Ummmm? That's what I've been running all season... I still think Seth's an idiot for running any more... I mean, he complains about front tire life, though I've got all four to last for the same amount of time, by making the rear end swing in every corner. That's why my car looks like a ferret on ice under braking.
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Good comparison!
 
I'm an idiot now for using more downforce? 👎 That's low. Even if it's a joke, you can come up with something better than that word. You ended up pitting a lap earlier than me, and your tires end up going off faster. The fact that the Audi and Ferrari and ACR have downforce up front means little to me. It adds drag and makes them slower on the top end. I think we saw that at Monza with the Vette. You don't need it to go fast. Look in the ALMS series and you see the Ferrari isn't even used and the guy using the ACR is always last. Your philosophy isn't the only one that works. If it did, you'd win every race. But you haven't won for the past 3 weeks ;). I'm not bragging, but there is certain ways you can set up your car to get a lot out of it for a longer period of time. Instead of all at once for 2 or 3 laps, and gradual decrease in time over a stint is what I try for. I learned this a few months back when the new tire wear model was brought in an update. I tried for a super setup before, trying to get the fastest lap times. Then pulled out a gap in the beginning of the race, only to hit a wall half way through the stint to see my rear view mirror filled with the more conservative setup cars.

Wanna know something? I chose the Audi because I think it's one of the coolest looking cars with the carbon fiber side blades. If I was to choose a GT car that I think would have the best possible shot at winning, I'd pick the Viper because it's power.
 
freshseth83
I'm an idiot now for using more downforce? 👎 That's low. Even if it's a joke, you can come up with something better than that word. You ended up pitting a lap earlier than me, and your tires end up going off faster. The fact that the Audi and Ferrari and ACR have downforce up front means little to me. It adds drag and makes them slower on the top end. I think we saw that at Monza with the Vette. You don't need it to go fast. Look in the ALMS series and you see the Ferrari isn't even used and the guy using the ACR is always last. Your philosophy isn't the only one that works. If it did, you'd win every race. But you haven't won for the past 3 weeks ;). I'm not bragging, but there is certain ways you can set up your car to get a lot out of it for a longer period of time. Instead of all at once for 2 or 3 laps, and gradual decrease in time over a stint is what I try for. I learned this a few months back when the new tire wear model was brought in an update. I tried for a super setup before, trying to get the fastest lap times. Then pulled out a gap in the beginning of the race, only to hit a wall half way through the stint to see my rear view mirror filled with the more conservative setup cars.

Wanna know something? I chose the Audi because I think it's one of the coolest looking cars with the carbon fiber side blades. If I was to choose a GT car that I think would have the best possible shot at winning, I'd pick the Viper because it's power.
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The carbon blades DO look really cool! :sly: Let's try to keep the arguing to a minimum here though, MrM, I KNOW you're typeing a message right now defending yourself...


And i'm going to keep ragging on this, who is going where? We need everyone to start this so we aren't dealing with too many angry customers come next season. Even just a "im going to DP" or "I'm going to GT" would be fine, just so we can get numbers for each class. NO more than 8 in each, with the people in each class having first dibs on the cars in that class.
 
I don't know whether its just me and my tuning setup, the way I drive, my consistency, the car or whatever.... I've seen you outshine me in a similar car once before, so it could be said that you're better than I am.

Also, how ever you and MrM are driving that Audi, I honestly think that I'm doing something wrong somewhere, especially now since you're saying that if you wanted to choose the car with the best chance of winning you'd choose the car I'm in already. Saying that means that obviously you can do much better with better tuning setup than I'm currently running, which also means I'm doing something seriously wrong If I've not been leading this championship from the get-go.

Oh, and my "can't hit 4:05" was a lie, I can, but for some reason, I'm expecting the Audi to run 2 seconds quicker, AT LEAST. Hence my, "so Audi's, you hitting 3:55's at Sarthe?" comment.
 
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I haven't tried the Audi at Sarthe yet. It's a lot of straights, but draft will help with those. I know it'll be good in the beginning and the end of the lap. Probably make up a good amount of time in the chicanes as well. The braking zones is where you can gain a LOT of time. Locate where you brake, and keep practicing trying to brake a tad bit later, trying to dive in deeper, take the corner a little differently. No reason to try out the Viper now, as the season is basically over, so I think testing the ACR may be on my 'to-do list'.
 
I've tested the Viper ACR in various places, and I'm not seeing a difference in the performance. I will add though, that I've been running the ACR on 465 bhp and 1280 kg, as if I was using an Audi or Ferrari, since the downforce is identical on all three. I lapped similar times to the Viper of this season. Roughly hitting 4:02's in both Vipers, though I think in the Coupe I'm ever so close to 4:00 mark now. But two seconds out over 4 mins + with more downforce and less bhp...

ACR @ Laguna = 1:24.1
ACR @ Monza = 1:47.9
ACR @ Sarthe = 4:02.8
ACR @ NBRing = 1:59-2:00 mark {from memory}

Tyre life, from what I'm noticing, is much better too.
 
Tez_SP17
I've tested the Viper ACR in various places, and I'm not seeing a difference in the performance. I will add though, that I've been running the ACR on 465 bhp and 1280 kg, as if I was using an Audi or Ferrari, since the downforce is identical on all three. I lapped similar times to the Viper of this season. Roughly hitting 4:02's in both Vipers, though I think in the Coupe I'm ever so close to 4:00 mark now. But two seconds out over 4 mins + with more downforce and less bhp...

ACR @ Laguna = 1:24.1
ACR @ Monza = 1:47.9
ACR @ Sarthe = 4:02.8
ACR @ NBRing = 1:59-2:00 mark {from memory}

Tyre life, from what I'm noticing, is much better too.
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Ahhhhh, Storm rockin' a new name!
 
polarbear345
Ahhhhh, Storm rockin' a new name!
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He got a premium GTP account. That's why he's rocking out a new name. And, anyone who has this crazy man on Skype, knows that "Tez" is a nickname he prefers. Fine by me, it sounds even better for the ITCC Race Recaps thread.


And, yes, the ACR *would* get better tire life. It'd be a much more suitable option. Does the Corvette have an option for front downforce yet?


And, I haven't tested Audi at Le Mans yet, but, Audi gets poles on tighter tracks, and gets "mid-field" results similar to those of Polar (downforce/hp) on the long straightaway tracks. So, Le Mans, Storm, might be the race, in which it all goes right for you.


As for my intentions for season two: Gimme a 905! I can't stand these new diesel "lump sum torque" LMPs, I want a good old petrol motor. And, let's face it, the 905 just LOOKS like a DP car. I don't care if I have to run 550 hp, I'll make it work. I've proven, this year, that horsepower isn't everything... :sly:

As for Seth actually taking offense to my teasing about "idiot," it only carries in voice chat. I teasingly call some of the people I race well with "idiots" for beating me on a different strategy; I'm implying the polar opposite, in actuality, but, it doesn't always carry in text chat.
 
freshseth83
I'm an idiot now for using more downforce? 👎 That's low. Even if it's a joke, you can come up with something better than that word. You ended up pitting a lap earlier than me, and your tires end up going off faster. The fact that the Audi and Ferrari and ACR have downforce up front means little to me. It adds drag and makes them slower on the top end. I think we saw that at Monza with the Vette. You don't need it to go fast. Look in the ALMS series and you see the Ferrari isn't even used and the guy using the ACR is always last. Your philosophy isn't the only one that works. If it did, you'd win every race. But you haven't won for the past 3 weeks ;). I'm not bragging, but there is certain ways you can set up your car to get a lot out of it for a longer period of time. Instead of all at once for 2 or 3 laps, and gradual decrease in time over a stint is what I try for. I learned this a few months back when the new tire wear model was brought in an update. I tried for a super setup before, trying to get the fastest lap times. Then pulled out a gap in the beginning of the race, only to hit a wall half way through the stint to see my rear view mirror filled with the more conservative setup cars.

Wanna know something? I chose the Audi because I think it's one of the coolest looking cars with the carbon fiber side blades. If I was to choose a GT car that I think would have the best possible shot at winning, I'd pick the Viper because it's power.
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Preach on!!!. I almost never qualify at the top. But I would say that I am always there at the end of the race. I dont mean to brag either. But look at the replay of last nights race. Compare my tires to everyone elses. Seeing stuff like that gives me the confidence in my tuning. I'll admit that im not the fastest hot lapper. But these are endurance races.
 
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