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The Sound Update Thread (The Return)
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I've thought this too. Clearly people have been making excellent sounds for rFactor mods, all the way back from 2005, using nothing but youtube recordings (doubt those modders actually have access to million dollar race cars, or rare cars that will never be driven, let along lent for a whole day recording). So it's not like sound mixing is rocket science. GT consistently having poor sounds, IMO, is more to do with design direction than a technical inability. Same thing with consistently poor AI, poor damage, slightly neutered physics, etc.
With the last few games the constant criticism of sounds have made Kaz/PD take notice, and you can see that they ARE trying to change things. But as long as it's still the same people at the helm there won't be a massive revolution, I think. A shame too, because it's probably one of the easiest things to improve in GT that will add so much to immersion and gameplay.
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The Sierra video i couldn't hear much difference because i don't know that car, but i saw the V10 Plus and the '70 Charger. You definitely have an ear for car sound, i'll tell you that!
Fantastic work!
And yes, as you said, the only issue is that the sound samples that you had to work with are not clear, which
is a bummer.
The Sierra video i couldn't hear much difference because i don't know that car, but i saw the V10 Plus and the '70 Charger. You definitely have an ear for car sound, i'll tell you that!
Fantastic work!
And yes, as you said, the only issue is that the sound samples that you had to work with are not clear, which
is a bummer.
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When will this be? 2028?
I appreciate that, but these are not my work.
Credit where credit's due etc.
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Yeah it does sound very bizarre.. its as if when your car travels away from the camera it goes into a large arena or a tunnel. There's virtually no exhaust sound bouncing off the environment. And that obnoxious tranny whine... eekh!
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Is there a video to demonstrate?
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I miss @Griffith500 and his analysis
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I believe I said a similar thing back in the trailer/ screenshot or videos thread and @TayeezSA confirmed to me that it has to do with the model being wrx type S containing a 2.0 L that it does not have the traditional boxer rumble the american versions has being (2.5L).
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...eral-discussion.337545/page-937#post-11754258
It was the general discussion forum sorry
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not the best sound quality, but one can easily hear the difference
I believe I said a similar thing back in the trailer/ screenshot or videos thread and @TayeezSA confirmed to me that it has to do with the model being wrx type S containing a 2.0 L that it does not have the traditional boxer rumble the american versions has being (2.5L).
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...eral-discussion.337545/page-937#post-11754258
It was the general discussion forum sorry
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Thanks for the video
I think I have found something after extensive searches
And for comparison the video in the general thread with all camera vieuws
GT sport seems to capture the engine note nicely until reaching higher revs which gives it a synthetic sound (if you listen to it with a headphone).
The shifting in gears is clearly not their best efforts (hopefully it gets fixed something like Forza at least). The exhaust note seems to be absent (just sound like the front engine sound in a higher volume) IMO.
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Gotta say that Subaru version is accurate.
Still doesn't sound good as the 2.5 though.
Still doesn't sound good as the 2.5 though.
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So far what I've heard of the beta is a mix of technologies, mix of accuracy and mix of production styles on a per-car basis. It's kind-of business as usual, in a sense, but there are a few technical changes that I would constitute as "dumbing down", or giving in to conservatism.
Still, I'm sure I can hear AES (PD's groundbreaking synthesis) on a good number of the cars, and it seems that some of the updates have converted some cars to use AES instead of samples. The overall mix and tuning of spatial effects like panning and reverb are likely lower down the list, in terms of importance, than the actual sounds - although the sound engine itself should be in set in stone before you make content to work in it.
I like the incidental effects, such as the chassis creaks and the exhaust crackles - these are of a very high production standard that may be indicative of PD's broader intentions.
The lack of a dedicated intake channel continues to be the biggest disappointment and detriment to the overall impression.
Still, I'm sure I can hear AES (PD's groundbreaking synthesis) on a good number of the cars, and it seems that some of the updates have converted some cars to use AES instead of samples. The overall mix and tuning of spatial effects like panning and reverb are likely lower down the list, in terms of importance, than the actual sounds - although the sound engine itself should be in set in stone before you make content to work in it.
I like the incidental effects, such as the chassis creaks and the exhaust crackles - these are of a very high production standard that may be indicative of PD's broader intentions.
The lack of a dedicated intake channel continues to be the biggest disappointment and detriment to the overall impression.
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I would like to know more what you mean with the AES system and the mix between technologies, accuracy and production style. (because I am a noob in this area
)Lastly you also said that there is lack of a dedicated intake channel, is this also the case for the exhaust note? Due to what I am hearing there is barely any audio of the exhaust going into the chase came and just a much higher volume of how the front camera sounds like.
It is good to hear back from you @Griffith500.
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If you are interested in car sound design watch thisI would like to know more what you mean with the AES system and the mix between technologies, accuracy and production style. (because I am a noob in this area
Lastly you also said that there is lack of a dedicated intake channel, is this also the case for the exhaust note? Due to what I am hearing there is barely any audio of the exhaust going into the chase came and just a much higher volume of how the front camera sounds like.
It is good to hear back from you @Griffith500.
Pretty good video
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Caviezel is Dey Man! I absolutely adore his work in FM4 and 5 (pretty sure he contributed to 5 as well). Before FM6 development began, he switched to Polyphony if memory serves, and it shows.. you can see through the cracks somewhat. However, cars in GT still sound.. so not like cars! Oh well.
