The Thrustmaster T500RS Thread

[Uscbryan]

Thinking it wouldn't be too hard to put carpet or some sort of matt over the diamond plate if it really bugs. It does look a bit tacky to me, but I would probably barely see it in my cockpit setup.

Yea I use a playseat and it takes up most of the space. Having that big thing hanging off the front would hit the tv area let alone fugly as all heck. Maybe that big metal thing on that back can be removed?

I'm still considering the wheel if they make a pc driver for it. I just got into iracing last weekend. Spent 2k on a gamer pc last night just for iRacing so I can see that may be the direction I'm going. If they make a pc driver for it I can still use my CSP's with thrustmaster.

 

[crox]

ECCI makes high end pedals compatible with G25/27/DFGT. Hopefully they will adapt to work with T500RS as well.

 

[hampus_dh]

Certainly is an expensive bit of kit, and the fact the shifter is extra just adds to the price. Glad I got my g25 when I did.

Could you explain to me why this wheel is expensive when people have compared the FF to be in the same class as FREX wheels which cost around $2.000 for the wheel only?

The quality of the wheel blows everything called Logitech and Fanatec away.

The G25 is a complete joke. (yes i´ve owned both of them)

I even see them as a joke compared to Fanatecs line of wheels in all categories you can imagine.

I should say that i do not compare these wheels on GT5, infact i haven´t even bought GT5 yet even though i was his biggest fan.
Iracing has just made everything else "meh" for me.

Take a look at the specs of this wheel and read about stuff like the HAL sensors and you will soon realise that this actually is a bargain.

This wheel plays in it´s own league. I´m selling my RSV2 as soon as i can, and that was a really good wheel for the money. Logitech has missed the ship a long time ago m8.

You got an answer? I mailed them last thursday, a week ago, and still no reply.

No, no answer yet

I guess that everything still is so new that they first want to get the packages out and then maybe reconsider selling it by itself.

I find it very ammusing that people really have no clue on what Thrustmaster has done here. But i guess that when more reviews come out and people start raving this wheel then people will understand just how good this wheel is.

Anyway, please notify me if you do get an answer and i´ll do the same for you m8.

ECCI makes high end pedals compatible with G25/27/DFGT. Hopefully they will adapt to work with T500RS as well.

Check out CST pedals, they have been called the best pedals money can buy, they cost but it seems like they are wonderful pedals.

 

[kikie]

I'm about 99% sure. You think Fanatec would figure out how to make that happen for G27 and T500 owners, sell a couple few extra sets of CSP for sure, but I guess they already have their hands full, huh?

The CSP won't work with the G27. The G27 can't handle the digital signals of the CSP. These are not my words but Fanatec's (I believe Thomas said it himself).
If the T500RS pedals send a digital signal, just like the CSP, than I believe it will be possible for Fanatec to come up with a solution.

No, no answer yet



Anyway, please notify me if you do get an answer and i´ll do the same for you m8.

Ok, Will do!

 

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[IMZ14U2NV]

Thinking it wouldn't be too hard to put carpet or some sort of matt over the diamond plate if it really bugs. It does look a bit tacky to me, but I would probably barely see it in my cockpit setup.

I am pretty sure that I will be upgrading to the Thrustmaster T500 RS from my Logitech G27 after I recover from Christmas!

So far, I really like things that I am reading about the wheel and know that I will eventually not be able to resist.

I will say though the Diamond Plate thing didn’t appeal to me when I saw it, I much prefer the classier look of the less expensive G27 Pedals.

The other thing that I am a little disappointed with is the fact that the wheel does not have some other material like leather as rubber just doesn’t make me feel like the product is high end, they could have used a design similar to the "Sparco Naxos Leather racing wheel", the two tone would give a more expensive classy look to the product.

I there are those who say that the look doesn’t mean anything, but I disagree, great products should look the part.

 

[hampus_dh]

the only PERSON who compared it was the ISR guy gangi. anytime you see them in videos they never use frex wheels. always a fanatec gt3rs.

Yes but if YOU take a look at the specs, then read about the specs. You too will realise that this wheel is just as mich quality as the wheels from Japan.

The difference is that the FREX is a engineers dream from a design standpoint.

The gap between high-end wheels and budget wheels is starting to get erased.
Then add that the FREX really isn´t that high-quality apart from the materials, the support sucks since it´s in Japan and that it costs $2.000 to buy the wheel only.
And you really have to take care of it.

This wheel stands in it´s own league. It has technology the FREX doesn´t even use but still costs little more than a Fanatec.

Read about the H.E.A.R.T. tech. This wheel is a complete game changer trust me on this.

The wheel is quality to with the use of metal etc.

EDIT: My bad, they do use Hall sensors on the pedals it seems but not on the wheel. Especially not the patented "3d" Hall sensors Thrustmaster uses.
Basically what i´m trying to say is that by reading the specs alone, without even touching a wheel this is just as good as a FREX wheel.

They use Optical encoders for the wheel.

 

[lunarwolf]

I will say though the Diamond Plate thing didn’t appeal to me when I saw it, I much prefer the classier look of the less expensive G27 Pedals.

The other thing that I am a little disappointed with is the fact that the wheel does not have some other material like leather as rubber just doesn’t make me feel like the product is high end.

i agree with both points

that plate isn't to my taste, but i can live with it as it seems rugged and i will be wearing shoes.

the rubber is really offputting, i guess i will find out in a couple of days. anyway, isn't the wheel detachable? hopefully down the road some mods will be available to solve this

 

[ara]

i agree with both points

that plate isn't to my taste, but i can live with it as it seems rugged and i will be wearing shoes.

the rubber is really offputting, i guess i will find out in a couple of days. anyway, isn't the wheel detachable? hopefully down the road some mods will be available to solve this

I would recommend both of you try the wheel itself before you decide the rubber material isn't to your liking.

 

[hampus_dh]

Isn't the wheel detachable? hopefully down the road some mods will be available to solve this

Yes it is So just slap on a MOMO or whatever and your good to go.

 

[lunarwolf]

I would recommend both of you try the wheel itself before you decide the rubber material isn't to your liking.

agree - that is why i said that i will find out in couple of days when i get mine

 

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[IMZ14U2NV]

Yes it is So just slap on a MOMO or whatever and your good to go.

I thought about the fact that it might possible for me to actually get a Momo or Sparco and replace the wheel, but I don’t think I have the aptitude to deal with the electronics that the buttons would be attached to. Unless I am missing something and this is easy to remedy, how would we deal with the fact that the buttons are part of the wheel??

I guess in the end, when I buy something that like this, I really don’t want to have to alter it, things sometimes just work better when you don’t have to put wrenches to them!!

 

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[UK-Gamer]

The wheel should be sold in the same way the Fanatec & FREX's are. Wheel-only, pedal only and in a bundle (they should also be cross-compatible). The reason is because, I would rather slap down £275 on the wheel and £175 on a set of CSP's

 

[IMZ14U2NV]

the guys got 7 posts and theyre all in this thread.

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[hampus_dh]

nah. sorry. you wrote YOU capitalized and it doesnt make sense. i wrote PERSON because your claim is that it is being reviewed by more than one who says it is like the frex. all ive seen or heard is that it "reminds" them of it. that could be in the materials but really, thats the last thing youre worried about after performance. its nice having that metal and all, id rather have nice leather which this wheel does not have sine thats the part of the wheel youre interacting with.. im not bashing it. if its awesome id consider it. its just you dont know what youre talking about. proof being you had to edit the info in your post after you googled it. let the experts review...then you can chime in and use there info like its your own. my guess? you dont own any of these wheels.

It has nothing to do with that. What i ment by YOU. is that you should read the specs, then find out what those specs mean, then come to the conclusion that this wheels is just as good as a FREX.

It has technology that the FREX doesn´t even have.

You see that´s why i don´t need reviews. I look at the specs, then compare it to other wheels and draw my conclusion from there instead of you who chooses wheels like this.

"hmm.. way to overpriced, and it´s ugly, it doesn´t even come with a leather wheel.. no i rather buy a G25 instead"

Sure use that logic, i don´t care but please try to understand what type of wheel this is and what technology is has before just saying no it´s overpriced because if you think about it for a second, it actually isn´t.

G25 and G27 are overpriced imo. Yes i´ve owned both of them and even compared to Fanatec i think they are crap. Good wheels for sure but compared to the other makes that produce wheels in this class they are pure ****.

You are basically buying a wheel based on looks while i rather buy a wheel based on the specs and the internals which at the end of day is what really matters.

Do you see where i´m coming from here? I´m not making assumptions, i´m reading facts and compare it to facts from other wheels and draw my conclusion from there. You however draw your conclusions based on looks.

BTW, i have owned Logitech MOMO, G25, G27, and now a Fanatec GT3RSV2

Don´t believe me still? Please tell and i´ll post up a pic with your name on it next to my GT3RSV2.

The material may be "the best" and "perfectly suited" it just isnt visually befitting a $600 piece of hardware is all they are saying.

Besides that, there is a reason the majority of race wheels are alcantara coated, and it is not just for looks. the material is extrememly tough and hard wearing - and provides a sweat free working surface.

But you have to understand that your not paying for the outside, the expensive stuff sits inside. And if people really took the time and read about the wheel they would understand why it costs the way it does.

The wheel can be changed so if people have a komplex about what material is used then it´s perfectly fine to change the wheel.

I understand them, i have alcanatara on my wheel and i love it but rubber is pretty good unless you have some sweat problems or decided to run in a 24H race

Btw, this was not aimed at you even though i used the word "you". it´s my crappy vocabulary that sucks in english so sorry about that.

I thought about the fact that it might possible for me to actually get a Momo or Sparco and replace the wheel, but I don’t think I have the aptitude to deal with the electronics that the buttons would be attached to. Unless I am missing something and this is easy to remedy, how would we deal with the fact that the buttons are part of the wheel??

I guess in the end, when I buy something that like this, I really don’t want to have to alter it, things sometimes just work better when you don’t have to put wrenches to them!!

Well i guess this comes down to if your a PS3 driver or a PC driver.
The cables i´m sure is just to disconnect once you remove the wheel obviosuly but then as you say cannot use the buttons unless you buy a custom wheel with enough buttons and you manage to connect them to that.

But then you also have to remember what button does what

For me, i´m going to use it in IRacing. It´s the ultimate racing experience in terms of everything so i´m thinking about gettin one of those custom momo´s whith a carbon plate with a few buttons and maybe a potentiometer for brake bias etc.

So i guess from a PS3 point of view, changing the wheel might not be the best idea just yet

 

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[lunarwolf]

The wheel should be sold in the same way the Fanatec & FREX's are. Wheel-only, pedal only and in a bundle (they should also be cross-compatible). The reason is because, I would rather slap down £275 on the wheel and £175 on a set of CSP's

true, i guess they chose the logitech bundle approach. maybe down the road they will offer them seperate. also it seems that these pedals come with a "nixim type" mode, and probably may be able to add something like a perfect pedal, although $200 for that mod looks a bit steep for what it is.

anyway i do like the fact you can have the F1 or rallye position for the pedals, and they do seem sturdy by their looks

 

[hampus_dh]

oooh.. oooh... I can play in the epen.. ewheel game.

I own a G25, GT2 and a T500... and I still say the rubber grip of the T500 is kind of tacky looking and feeling.

Of course this is just my isloated epinion and do not expect anyone else to sahre the same view as I do.. or not.

No need to act like that m8. He didn´t believe i own any wheel so i just told him that he´s wrong.

Of course rubber next to Alcantara and leather is going to look tacky, but completely ignoring the wheel or what this wheel can do is from my point of view ludacris.

 

[Zoom!Zoom!]

Well I have both Gt3 and G27 and say G27 is just as good as the GT3.(I prefer the g27 over Gt3) You can tell that even some things about fanatec wheel looks and feels cheap. (all wheels seems to take some short cuts to reduce price)
So far every Logitech wheel I've bought still works today including the first FFB wheel for PS2. (of course it not supported by most games any longer epsecially since it's missing the d pad and most of the controller buttons)

Of course CSP are more heavy and nicer than the g27 pedals yet even g27 pedals is far from being crap.

 

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[IMZ14U2NV]

It has nothing to do with that. What i ment by YOU. is that you should read the specs, then find out what those specs mean, then come to the conclusion that this wheels is just as good as a FREX.

It has technology that the FREX doesn´t even have.

You see that´s why i don´t need reviews. I look at the specs, then compare it to other wheels and draw my conclusion from there instead of you who chooses wheels like this.

"hmm.. way to overpriced, and it´s ugly, it doesn´t even come with a leather wheel.. no i rather buy a G25 instead"

Sure use that logic, i don´t care but please try to understand what type of wheel this is and what technology is has before just saying no it´s overpriced because if you think about it for a second, it actually isn´t.

G25 and G27 are overpriced imo. Yes i´ve owned both of them and even compared to Fanatec i think they are crap. Good wheels for sure but compared to the other makes that produce wheels in this class they are pure ****.

You are basically buying a wheel based on looks while i rather buy a wheel based on the specs and the internals which at the end of day is what really matters.

Do you see where i´m coming from here? I´m not making assumptions, i´m reading facts and compare it to facts from other wheels and draw my conclusion from there. You however draw your conclusions based on looks.

BTW, i have owned Logitech MOMO, G25, G27, and now a Fanatec GT3RSV2

Don´t believe me still? Please tell and i´ll post up a pic with your name on it next to my GT3RSV2.





But you have to understand that your not paying for the outside, the expensive stuff sits inside. And if people really took the time and read about the wheel they would understand why it costs the way it does.

The wheel can be changed so if people have a komplex about what material is used then it´s perfectly fine to change the wheel.

I understand them, i have alcanatara on my wheel and i love it but rubber is pretty good unless you have some sweat problems or decided to run in a 24H race

Btw, this was not aimed at you even though i used the word "you". it´s my crappy vocabulary that sucks in english so sorry about that.



Well i guess this comes down to if your a PS3 driver or a PC driver.
The cables i´m sure is just to disconnect once you remove the wheel obviosuly but then as you say cannot use the buttons unless you buy a custom wheel with enough buttons and you manage to connect them to that.

But then you also have to remember what button does what

For me, i´m going to use it in IRacing. It´s the ultimate racing experience in terms of everything so i´m thinking about gettin one of those custom momo´s whith a carbon plate with a few buttons and maybe a potentiometer for brake bias etc.

So i guess from a PS3 point of view, changing the wheel might not be the best idea just yet

I think that there is no Right and Wrong here, there are only opinions, I find them all very valuable because I obviously have to make a good decision as I will be living with this for a while, always remember that we all have different need and requirements, the reason some people may think that this wheel is expensive is because (and I will use myself as an example), the only use for this will be on my PS3, I do not play games on my PC and once I am done with GT5 and NFS Shift, more than likely this thing will just sit as I wait for GT6 and NFS Shift 2.

If I relate this to Audio, you can have two pairs of speakers, be they High End or Low End with the exact same Frequency response, Total Harmonic Distortion, Same size Drivers (Tweeters, Midrange, Woofer), same Cross over Frequencies and they still are not going to sound the same or be equal, so you Cannot Just Read Specification Sheets and think that something is superior based on that!!!

As far as only the internal count, I don’t know if that holds true in this case, you must remember, This is supposed to simulate driving/racing. One thing we can agree on is that must race cars and high end cars have materials on the wheel that become stand Motorsport expectations and Leather/ Alcantara just happens to be one of them……So, as far as I am concerned, the first thing you do when designing a Racing Wheel is give it the materials that racers expect!!!

Everyone has and deservers their own opinion, the thing to remember is that your opinion is exactly that….YOURS, and no one can take that away, but we must respect other people’s !!!
That is just my personal opinion!

 

[Jeff G]

Any additional fan problems? Additional problems with the mode button? With hex screws falling out or rounding out badly?

I pre-ordered from Fry's a week ago, but the wheel is now on back-order. You'd think a pre-order would prevent that very thing, but so it goes. Gives me time to get my rig set-up.

Speaking of which, anybody create a good cheap solution for mounting the PS3 console to an Obutto cockpit? I was thinking of maybe using netting and bungee cords, but I'm worried that the buttkicker might make such a set-up unwise...

 

[.Hz]

The wheel list thing was just a joke - no offense meant by it.

I do understand perfectly what you are saying. And I agree 100% with you the wheel is excellent, fanatastic even, or I would not be keeping my T500.

The insides might be the best there are in this price range, but the least they coul dhave done was make it look as good on the outside as it performs on the inside... that is all that is being suggested.

Looks is purely a matter of opinion, and I think most people here would also agree like I do that the wheel looks incredibly awesome, the rubber has been said by other people to feel excellent, but opinions are opinions, however, there's no denying the rubber is obviously some of the best material for the wheel, which suits it better than any "looks", it probably cost them more to manufacture and produce the unique formula used then to just get some Alcantera.

Besides, I'm sure you could rig up some alcantera if you even really want to.

 

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[Rav]

Alacantra feels great but in the long run it is not practical as it beings to wear down. You have to use a brush on it every now and then. Using water is a no no. I have a alacantra steering wheel in my car and it is beginning to show signs of wear. Some people I know use driving gloves to keep the alacantra intact.

 

[Uscbryan]

I'm not sure as I don't know a lot about thrustmaster but a lot of Internet talk says they are known for producing junk. Is this true or is it just the standard people who don't like it complain and those that do like it are too busy enjoying it to complain?

Yes but if YOU take a look at the specs, then read about the specs. You too will realise that this wheel is just as mich quality as the wheels from Japan.

The difference is that the FREX is a engineers dream from a design standpoint.

The gap between high-end wheels and budget wheels is starting to get erased.
Then add that the FREX really isn´t that high-quality apart from the materials, the support sucks since it´s in Japan and that it costs $2.000 to buy the wheel only.
And you really have to take care of it.

This wheel stands in it´s own league. It has technology the FREX doesn´t even use but still costs little more than a Fanatec.

Read about the H.E.A.R.T. tech. This wheel is a complete game changer trust me on this.

The wheel is quality to with the use of metal etc.

EDIT: My bad, they do use Hall sensors on the pedals it seems but not on the wheel. Especially not the patented "3d" Hall sensors Thrustmaster uses.
Basically what i´m trying to say is that by reading the specs alone, without even touching a wheel this is just as good as a FREX wheel.

They use Optical encoders for the wheel.