The Words of the Winds are Now all Clear

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I'm sure most GT4 cars will have a cockpit view, some proof:

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Maybe some concept/rare cars will be left out due to no info/pics :)
 
We still dont know the features from GT5 but I would like to have "only" 500 cars but some new features... Livery,new game modes,qualifying races,online market place to sell and buy cars and parts...

Dont missunderstand,its great to have 1000 cars but i dont see any big improvemend on that list...

But İ am sure PD is waiting with information till FM3 is out...

But if we get an GT4 with GT5P graphics, I can live with that...
 
Mannn.....As long as all 1000 cars have an interior and mechanical failure and exterior damage i'm str8.

This would be epic and it seems like the most reasonable thing. All cars should have an interior. All cars should be damageable, even if it's only exterior damage. This would be a large feat.
 
Modelling 170 "PREMIUM CARS" and re-using GT4 Cars in 4.5 Years sounds like a JOKE to me. And since when did GT4 had 800+ cars?

GT4 had 742 cars. It does seem that we'll only be seeing, give or take a few dozen, 150 new cars in GT5, which seems a bit low. 830 cars= 650 from GT4 +180 brand new....Time will tell, though.
 

GT4 had 742 cars. It does seem that we'll only be seeing, give or take a few dozen, 150 new cars in GT5, which seems a bit low. 830 cars= 650 from GT4 +180 brand new....Time will tell, though.

It's more like 800+(which is confirmed by the way) Cars from GT Mobile and 150 PREMIUM CARS Exclusive only for GT5.
 
Last night, when going to bed, I had a gut feeling that I was going to wake up to the news that that list would be pulled from their japanese site. Well, because of the first sentence:
The latest information about the game specification of "grand turismo 5" was announced in "gamescom" which is being held in Germany Koln from August 18th.
And it was not announced!

A similar phrasing was used right after the game trailer was shown at the E3.

I think that GT5 was removed from the press conference at the last minute (what ever may have caused that?) and that in all their panic they forgot to inform the home front not to put up the list as planned. :ouch:
 
I'm sure most GT4 cars will have a cockpit view, some proof:

fiat-500f-65.jpg


1rd7io.jpg




jtlanc.jpg


2luospg.jpg



Maybe some concept/rare cars will be left out due to no info/pics :)

Off topic but dude, they using Dells:sly:
 
Here's a thought about the 170 / 830 cars question which just crossed my mind. They say that there are 170 "premium" models with cockpit and fully visible damage from inside and outside, and 830 "standard" models carried over from GT4.

Now, think of this: to be able to generate fully visual damage, you need to model a car completely, with all its parts. Underbody, engine bay, everything. Only then, you can make sure every panel smashed open or lost will reveal a believable sight. On the other hand, cars in GT4 only were an outer shell with a bit of cockpit modeled in (you were able to see the driver and parts like a steering wheel, but not much else). So if you were to show damage with one of these, you would just see the inside of said empty shell when the car loses bodyparts.

My interpretation is this: the 170 refers to the cars fully modeled including all its individual components, so a fully developed damage model from inside and outside is possible. 830 cars are based on the data that was gathered for previous Gran Turismo games, so while they will have the same HD looks on the outside as their 170 counterparts, they will not feature damage, because their visual model just can't cope with showing its bowels. When PD gathered the data about these, they didn't think that one day they needed to model the car from ground up, so they simply didn't collect the necessary data. Whether those cars will feature a cockpit can't be said with absolute certainty, but I don't see anything that would prevent them from.

So in this interpretation, it is:
170 "premium" models with fully visible damage inside and out
830 "standard" models just made of an outer shell and a cockpit (= no damage)
 
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This is a translation from a spanish website.... but i don´t know if is more acurate than we can see in gtplanet.... but... for the hope ;)
# Todos los vehículos incorporarán un nuevo sistema de simulación de físicas y la representación en tiempo real de los daños por colisión.

# 170 vehículos podrían incorporarar el sistema de daños interiores.
- ALL cars will have a new physics engine and real time damage representation for colisions
- 170 vehicles will incorporate a internal damage sistem
 
the Interceptor's post sounds quite logical, but with all of this speculation, we'll just have to wait and see...
 
i am kindve sad that I will be essentially playing gran turismo 4 over again, but i really really hope that their are more new cars than their were in gt4
 
i am kindve sad that I will be essentially playing gran turismo 4 over again, but i really really hope that their are more new cars than their were in gt4

720 cars in gt4 (im not sure), 1000 cars in gt5 --> 280 new cars
 
-> Wait, wait. Are the 742 cars in GT4 includes the cars featured in the Korean version of GT4? Because as far as I know, I think the Korean version has more cars than any GT4 versions all over the world. :confused:

-> Here are the cars that were exclusive in the Korean version:

* Lexus IS200 GT-1 Race Car '04
* Hyundai Tiburon Turbulence '99
* Hyundai Tuscani CCS '03
* Hyundai Click Type-R Race Car '04

:confused:
 
720 cars in gt4 (im not sure), 1000 cars in gt5 --> 280 new cars

yeh i know.. i am saying, i hope the cars from gt4 are updated... (2004 mustang -> 2009 mustang) body style and everything.. for all the cars from 04 to 09
 
I'm quite certain PD wouldn't sink so low as to transfer GT4 quality car models to GT5. That is the way Electronic Arts managed their car models from NFS: Underground to NFS: Undercover.
 
Hello all,
Ive been going to this website for months but was too lazy to sign up. Now that I have I can join in on this conversation.
On topic:If they include the 09 mustang, they might as well include the 2010 mustang no?
 
i am kindve sad that I will be essentially playing gran turismo 4 over again, but i really really hope that their are more new cars than their were in gt4

So you would prefer none of the cars that were in GT4 to be in GT5 ? I dont believe there are that many quality cars in existance ?

How many "quality" cars have been produced in the past 4 years that should be in GT5 maybe 200? I think you'd be pushing it to come up with more than that (I could look at the car wish list, but frankly that is the biggest waste of bandwidth on this site which reads more like a wiki page on "Every Car made")

GT5P has a stack of cars from GT4 and I dont recall a great deal of complaint about it.
Infact some of the best cars in GT5P are cars from GT4... Corvette, Ford GT, RX7, NSX, Integra, R34 Skyline, Elise, Clio..
PD have already shown via GT5P that GT4 cars are more than acceptable and deserving to be in future releases of the game, yet it seems it is not acceptable for these cars to be in GT5 unless you think they will simply copy/paste the graphics from GT4 to GT5.. ??

Can you really see Kaz nodding in approval that this is the correct way to make GT5... no I dont think so either.
 
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Aren't you forgetting that Prologue is almost completely build up out of GT4 cars?
And they have been remodeled, too.

Uhm...nope. Only about 20 cars from the 70+ in Prologue EXISTED when GT4 came out.
 
Uhm...nope. Only about 20 cars from the 70+ in Prologue EXISTED when GT4 came out.
Alright then, point taken.

But those 20 cars have been remodeled.

Remodeled for damage? We don't know. But they're not just 'taken from GT4' like some are saying.
 
What certainly cannot be, is that there is damage only to part of the cars, unless that damage is limited to a certain, well defined group of cars, like race cars. Imagine you are taking part in a race with damage enabled and some of the cars get torn to pieces and others stay fully intact. Ain't gonna happen in a PD game.

So, I think it is reasonable to suspect that those "premium" car models are either the race cars (the number 170 seems about right for that), or it refers to somewhat accurate damage of the interior, as has been suggested in these forums before.
 
A lot of people are jumping the gun here....does no-one read properly? It states "some are from Gran Turismo 4 that have been carried over to GT5".

Therefore, only some of those 830 are from GT4 - not all. All it is saying by stating 830, is that those 830 will not have an internal damage model, not that 830 are from GT4 (or 742 or whatever).

People shouldn't jump to conclusions so early, especially when GT4's car list was pretty impressive, why don't you want cars from GT4?
 

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