The ZERO COUNTER drift

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.....i know.

or were you talking to the other people in this thread?
 
I thought about replying to Silvadrifter’s earlier reply about how it’s counter productive not to countersteer with drifts with FR cars but he made a second so I had to change a bit what my reply was going to be.

If I didn’t say it the right way the last time I replied here (and looking back I most likley did not...), if you were to try and do it with an FR, it would indeed not work so well if not just being outright impossible.

Yes you do need to countersteer, you need to try and have the front tires match the angle of a given turn, whatveer that turn is for most cases. You only have power comming to the rear tires, this enforces the rule even more to countersteer.
I only gave a suggestion to try and work with not doing too much countersteering after the turn in because there is a slight...emphasis on slight at best of even doing a turn with no counterseering after the turn in, but I have yet to do it myself, if I saw it in real life, I forgot about it, otherwise it would not work well if at ALL.

In other words... you NEED to countersteer, no matter what the drift angle, you need to countersteer from drastic to just a little depending on just what drift, turn, car, speed, acceleration, braking, etc...

I would like to see these replays of people clearing corners with rear drive cars, I don’t know if I would make any requirements as a judge but I think I would be able to tell.

Otherwise, it’s impossible or really pointless...but show me (and others) some examples and then we can figure what to do. Otherwise I’ll just add the addtional hammer for the nail in saying you can’t do it, you do, I repeat, as Silvia drifter had said, and others, and even I had said but I guess I didn’t say it the right way the first time, you do

need

to

COUNTERSTEER

NO MATTER WHAT...okay?...

Till later...I’ll try and not over-react again...

Edit: I guess I should just also mention before why I had said that if you were going to try that to try and just pratice steering as little as you can, I would leave this just to discovery but I'd figure someone may pull this up and try to get at me about it for some reason in the unforseable future (yeah, I know it's a bit paranoid but well...I don't want to leave anything unattended...).

You know in a sitaution like say, a Matrial art's teacher may suggest something that may seam impossible or rediclous to a student, and the student wanting to learn or just trying to find whatever may go for it, he dosen't quite find what he wanted but found something else...

to be blunt, I know you need to countersteer with any rear drive car as far as I know (I have yet to go thru RR a lot though...)...I said that so that if anyone were to try and drift like that, they may find that for one, it is impossible to not countersteer in a drift and not spin out, but at the same time, (from this point on, I'm going to sound like an idoit because I'm writing this at 9:30 PM or least by my clock so my brain is not at it's best...) ... to learn critical, sensitve control for drifting.

In hindsight, i would have been better off just simply stateing that out, I’d figure also if he was going to actually go for it, I might as well just try and give him some usefull advice...even though it would not get him to the goal he intends...least within a reason that would work anyway...

I would go on more...but I’m tired and I’ll fail to make any sense from here on in... (and I bet I didn’t make much sense in the last few parigraphs to begin with either...) ...I hope to somehow tomorrow...

Untill later...again...
 
R_Riders
In other words... you NEED to countersteer, no matter what the drift angle, you need to countersteer from drastic to just a little depending on just what drift, turn, car, speed, acceleration, braking, etc...

Yes, exactly.... It's about controlling your countersteer, so you can keep your front wheels at the correct line to guide the car through the turn....


;)
 
For the less abled people, The counter steer guides the car, while the rear pushes the car. This in turn balances out the effect.. Am I making sense SD? -_-;
 
MdnIte
For the less abled people, The counter steer guides the car, while the rear pushes the car. This in turn balances out the effect.. Am I making sense SD? -_-;

Yeah, that's one way of puting it.....


;)
 
try to let off the gas near the end of the corner and start up again very slowly...thats what i do to do the zero counter exits...cant say i do them that smooth though
 

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