Things you would like to see in GT5 other than cars?

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I want to once again be able to own more than one set of wheels for my car. I'd also like to see all of the old tracks make returns, especially the original SS R11.
 
Flat-12 Aircool
No, I think you'll find Millions of $ & £ from GT4 sales come before game release. :)
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my apologies, yes of course, but i think you knew what i meant. im assuming they've made a tidy sum out of gt4. so i personally would love to see a wider variety of cars.
 
This would take up a lot of memory, but what about commentators talking about the races?
And not just a couple of robots like on the PS2 F1 games!
 
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my apologies, yes of course, but i think you knew what i meant. im assuming they've made a tidy sum out of gt4. so i personally would love to see a wider variety of cars.
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So would I m8, but I can't accept that the licensing problem boils down to just money.

For example, why has Forza managed to include Porche & Ferrari in the same game. Ok, maybe Mr B. Gate'$ opened up his considerably heavy wallet to secure the deal, but was it really down to just that?

You could argue that Forza only has around 300 cars so that costs less than GT5's 700 cars. But whats going to happen when Forza 2 comes out on the XBox 360 and has 500+ or whatever, I bet Porsche & Ferrari will still be in the game then!

Basically I think that the quite understandable Japanese bias to the car list played a part in all this as Sony we're probably not willing to try hard enough to secure more European manufacturers. As for other reasons we can only guess, but it certainly isn't all down to money.
 
Flat-12 Aircool
So would I m8, but I can't accept that the licensing problem boils down to just money.

For example, why has Forza managed to include Porche & Ferrari in the same game. Ok, maybe Mr B. Gate'$ opened up his considerably heavy wallet to secure the deal, but was it really down to just that?

You could argue that Forza only has around 300 cars so that costs less than GT5's 700 cars. But whats going to happen when Forza 2 comes out on the XBox 360 and has 500+ or whatever, I bet Porsche & Ferrari will still be in the game then!

Basically I think that the quite understandable Japanese bias to the car list played a part in all this as Sony we're probably not willing to try hard enough to secure more European manufacturers. As for other reasons we can only guess, but it certainly isn't all down to money.
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bingo, you've hit jackpot. as much as its costs, i think sony should be able to cover it quite easily, the GT series is the best selling racer ever, so for all we know sony are just being tight a***d, anyway ive had enough of going to used car lost and having to comb through all those skyline's and evo's just to find something i like!
 
According to Sony, yes it was just money, Ferrari and Porsche both wanted too much for Sony to think it was worth it. And why wouldn't that be truth.

Let me put it this way, Sony lauches GT4 as it is, it sells 25,500,000 copies. Sony looks into buying Ferrari and Porsche licenses, lets say they cost £2,000,000 for them both, Sony looks at the impact it will have on sales and estiamtes an extra 250,000 will buy GT4. Out of thoes extra games sold, do you think Sony will have made it's £2,000,000 back? No, Sony knows roughly the same number of people will buy GT4 with or without thoes licenses, and if thoes will cost more than the extra profit will bring in, theres no point getting the licenses.
 
live4speed
According to Sony, yes it was just money, Ferrari and Porsche both wanted too much for Sony to think it was worth it. And why wouldn't that be truth.

Let me put it this way, Sony lauches GT4 as it is, it sells 25,500,000 copies. Sony looks into buying Ferrari and Porsche licenses, lets say they cost £2,000,000 for them both, Sony looks at the impact it will have on sales and estiamtes an extra 250,000 will buy GT4. Out of thoes extra games sold, do you think Sony will have made it's £2,000,000 back? No, Sony knows roughly the same number of people will buy GT4 with or without thoes licenses, and if thoes will cost more than the extra profit will bring in, theres no point getting the licenses.
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i have shut my mouth, i rest my case. :)
 
I only really have 2 things i wanna see in GT5

ROME NIGHT! i loved that track and with the physics that could be used now it would look perfect.

Day/Night transitions.

This one with a twist. Now we all know games consoles and handhelds can read the time to see whether its day or night (think Pokemon and its day and night transitions). Well how about this for an idea Day/night transitions with a twist aswell as weather transitions!

Your PS3 or whatever is say hooked up to the net and you begin a 24hour at the Nurburg. You start at 2am so your console read the time and goes to a specific site (PD owned obviously) to get the exact weather of the Nurburg at the time your starting. Obviously at the track you would have a weather station set up and a series of LDR's (light dependant resistors) but ill explain on those in a minute.

As the weather changes as the track the weather changes in your game so racing in clear conditions can become a thunderstorm in moments as it happened in real life.

Now to the LDR's these would help determine the amount of light on the circuit. As the LDR's pick up no light the race is dark but as the area lights up the LDR's pick this up and your race starts to actually get light.

This would be the most amazing feature ever as you could not only start a race with the exact light of the time of day you start it BUT youd get the exact weather of the day your racing it on. That would be the ULTIMATE driving sim.

If not on GT5 then maybe GT6 lol but eventually something like that needs to be done!
 
live4speed
According to Sony, yes it was just money, Ferrari and Porsche both wanted too much for Sony to think it was worth it. And why wouldn't that be truth.

Let me put it this way, Sony lauches GT4 as it is, it sells 25,500,000 copies. Sony looks into buying Ferrari and Porsche licenses, lets say they cost £2,000,000 for them both, Sony looks at the impact it will have on sales and estiamtes an extra 250,000 will buy GT4. Out of thoes extra games sold, do you think Sony will have made it's £2,000,000 back? No, Sony knows roughly the same number of people will buy GT4 with or without thoes licenses, and if thoes will cost more than the extra profit will bring in, theres no point getting the licenses.
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Please, tell me something I don't know! :indiff:

The point is its not just about HOW MUCH they wanted, but WHY they wanted so much money and whether a third party is involved in negotiations.
 
Ferrari and Porsche will ask for a certain large sum of money, simply because they can, companies pay that much for it. If they take the line of thinking, "whatever we get, it's money we wouldn't get otherwise", they run the risk of lowering the cost of their licenses permenantly, whats to stop them only being offered the same lower ammount again next time, and the time after that. So theres the reason they ask for so much. As for other parties involved, I can't see Sony using a third party to handle negotiations, ofcourse theres the legal side, the solicitors checking all the contracts for mistakes, and omissions and such, other than that, Sony's large enough to have their own people to handle all the rest.
 
When I said 3rd parties, I meant other companies that hold the licenses off Ferrari & Porsche who Sony would have to approach and go through, rather than the car companies themselves.
 
Right, if say Sony were negotiating for the Ferrari license early-mid last year while EA still had exclusive rights bar SEGA, Sony would have to get permission from Ferrari and from EA, whether Sony would have to pay Ferrrari for permission though would depend largly on the contract with EA. If EA holds an exclusive license, then all costs for whatever period the license is for have been covered, so unless theres a clause in there that covers the event of another company becoming involved, theres no costs to pay. But EA can still demand whatever ammount they wish to share the license.
 
If Ferrari charged Microsoft £1mil, they'll charge Sonny £1mil, I'm not saying they did charge that, but it will be a considerable sum. Licensing sought after brands doesn't come cheap. I personally can see Ferrari costing anything from £1mil to £2mil and up. Ofcourse it depends on how many cars you want also and if you want to secure that license for future releases, which I can't see Sony not wanting. Again, even if they could get EVERY Ferrari in for £3mil, if theydon't see a big enough increase in profits from Sales, they arn't going to bother.
 
Dont know if anyone said this but i would like to change the look of my car...not just the color...like the doors...front end, back end, and more...the colors would be cool also...like graphics...just a thought to be unique...
 
how about instead of winning prize cars for the event, you win prize parts, say a 2nd stage turbo, or a set of racing tires. And you can put them on a car of your choice.

i hope there is also brands of parts that give out different amounts of hp for the same car, and after a part has been purchased, you are given the chance to put a sticker of that brand on any part of your car.

im sure this has been mentioned by i would love to see an onboard view with full functional dash for every car, and reflections from other cars and the sun comeing into your car, the inside car view would also be great if there was the real sound of the car from inside. dont worry about an animated steering wheel though.

if there is damage in GT5, there might be a possiblity in a smaller amount of cars than GT4, but it is the PS3 though we are talking about
 
Indoctrin
I only really have 2 things i wanna see in GT5

ROME NIGHT! i loved that track and with the physics that could be used now it would look perfect.

Day/Night transitions.

This one with a twist. Now we all know games consoles and handhelds can read the time to see whether its day or night (think Pokemon and its day and night transitions). Well how about this for an idea Day/night transitions with a twist aswell as weather transitions!

Your PS3 or whatever is say hooked up to the net and you begin a 24hour at the Nurburg. You start at 2am so your console read the time and goes to a specific site (PD owned obviously) to get the exact weather of the Nurburg at the time your starting. Obviously at the track you would have a weather station set up and a series of LDR's (light dependant resistors) but ill explain on those in a minute.

As the weather changes as the track the weather changes in your game so racing in clear conditions can become a thunderstorm in moments as it happened in real life.

Now to the LDR's these would help determine the amount of light on the circuit. As the LDR's pick up no light the race is dark but as the area lights up the LDR's pick this up and your race starts to actually get light.

This would be the most amazing feature ever as you could not only start a race with the exact light of the time of day you start it BUT youd get the exact weather of the day your racing it on. That would be the ULTIMATE driving sim.

If not on GT5 then maybe GT6 lol but eventually something like that needs to be done!
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oh imagine that :drool: :drool: :drool: indoctrin that is probably the best idea i have seen on this thread!
 
#1: I'd remove the ability to transfer cr. and licences. What's the fun of winning sunday cup with a 100.000cr car?? The most satisfying is to beat the competition because you're a good driver, not because you have a superiour car.

#2: Better AI. Now they act as if you're not there.

#3: Let us drive cabs with the hood down!

#4: Official online GT5 Championship

#5: When PS3 comes, It'll probably have a hard-drive. PD should then be able to make cars on demand (The most popular from a wish-list)

#6: Rain, wind, sun, snow, weather!

#7: Car repair -> Don't have to be visible damage, but engine failure, punctures, leaks, busted suspension from jolting over a chicane etc.

#8: Ability to win all cars only once. No fun in making 1000000cr. B-specing for 9mins in DTM. If you sell a prize car it should be byebye.

#9: Car paint-shop where you can personalize your road cars.

#10: Bronze for at least IA and S-licenses is way to easy, often a 10s gap between bronze and silver. Make a bit harder again. To compensate for young kids not being able to do the tests, PD can make a "kiddie-mode" with easier licences.

#11: Automatic save of all races stats, including car, mods, HP, weight, line-up of competing cars and offered/won A-spec points.

#12: List all cars eligble for each race instead of etc. and 3400mm or less. Or alter the sort function in the garage to include length, DTM, Premium sports car etc.

#13: My name in the end credits as a PD GT5 test driver :D
 
Which reminds me.... bring back the power/weight display of competitors!! Was in GT1, but not been seen since, yet it made for really good racing.
 
What I have been thinking ever since I got GT4 that I really wish was in the game:

A quick pull-down menu that appears just before going into any race, to let you swap cars quickly, easily and ANYWHERE in the game you happen to be.

In a game that has so many cars and different championships etc, forcing the player to navigate way back to the actual garage just to change cars takes too much time and is very clunky.

Perhaps the game should show you a list that displays all the cars you own that are eligible to enter the specific championship you're about to enter. You can then select the appropriate car on the fly. Simple.

The entire concept of being "in" only one car while navigating through menus etc is very outdated and is clunky as hell now that GT has such a vast number of races and cars.

Even at each manufacturer's tuning shop, you should be able to bring up a menu that lets you select from a list that shows only the cars made by that manufacturer (that you have in your garage) and let you tune each of them to your heart's content (Including setup! Why can you only change the set up while racing?) without necessarily having to 'get into' each of them or indeed even select them to race at all.

If you take this idea to its logical end, you only need one location to go to 'tune' any car, as you select different cars you own from the quick menu, the brand of the tuner shop changes on the fly to represent the brand of car you intend to tune. This again would get rid of loads of pointless navigating through manufacturer screens getting to different tune shops that are mostly just identical apart from the branding.

This is a damn good concept and I know it. Polyphony Digital should hire me to do their interface design! I am dead serious. This would get rid of a massive amount of pointless button pressing and waiting, getting the right car and tuning it quickly and easily. :)
 
That's a good idea, James. And with PS3 probably coming with HDD, there will be no more waiting, staring at the GT logo for ages! Just racing :)
 
-A custom paint shop, I'm talkin' some nice stripes and numbers if you want, it would truly make the car your design :)

-Design your own RACE TRACK!!! That would be very cool... 👍

-Take out the Rally portion of the game :crazy: , it's no fun and would free up alot more room for other cars and tracks

-Choices in engines or engine swaps, where's the 427 and 454 Camaros and Corvettes and don't get me started on the lack of Hi-Po Pontiacs :grumpy:
 
the only things that i would like to have in gt5 would be:

SKID MARKS-these should have been put in gt4!!!!!

rain, snow, and

damage, it would be really fun to kno wat your favourite car would look like after u drove in at like 120 into a wall!!!
 
Even if PS3 has reduced load times (I doubt it, XBOXs and PCs can still really bog down while loading, and games are only getting bigger and more complex) my car selection idea is still far more elegant than the minor upgrade PD will probably do... remember changing things like the interface doesn't take any amazing power, just common sense. PD are just sticks-in-the-mud! They've had 4 goes and multiple millions of dollars to get to an ideal interface system for god sakes!
 
(1) An inertia meter.
The way it could work is a top-down view of a transparent car with a red splotch (with some lesser red/orange areas surrounding it) moving and shifting according to where the car's weight is at any given time. Think of it as a 3D G meter with the z axis removed.

(2) The rev metres of different cars as they appear in real life. =)

(3) A tutorial on 'how to tune'.

(4) The further out 3rd person view avaliable in the GT mode!
 
One thing I'd like to see is a proper drivers eye view point, not just a roof camera or a bumper camera. But that does not mean I'd want to see the cockpit or steering wheel etc, just let me see the Bonnet/Hood of my car.
 
James2097
What I have been thinking ever since I got GT4 that I really wish was in the game:

Even at each manufacturer's tuning shop, you should be able to bring up a menu that lets you select from a list that shows only the cars made by that manufacturer (that you have in your garage) and let you tune each of them to your heart's content (Including setup! Why can you only change the set up while racing?) without necessarily having to 'get into' each of them or indeed even select them to race at all.
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yes you can change car settings without having to race, how? by pressing start at the main 'Home' menu
 

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