TOCA Season 4.2 - DaxCobra, Paul Mack, VenoMMotorsports Champions!

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Furinkazen
When I tested, VW was constent joint 3rd with Ford and Mazda. And slowest 0-60 and 0-100 as well.
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3rd in lap times around Top Gear... and I tested on other tracks as well...
 
Just tested the VW now - default settings except gearbox and was using control. The chassic is fine - very good actually, and brakes good considering I had them at 5/5 and was using controller. Kept making mistakes but got a 1:23.5 with no setup - i reckon 1.20.2's possible with a setup and using a wheel.

TBH it has too much torque. Made a mistake on the last turn and lost 20mph, then at the end of the straight I was doing my Honda's top speed of 140mph!! :ouch:
 
Honda has not as much torque as VW. That means the VW destroys
straights but Honda can just scoota round the corners.
 
FlyingFox
Test, test, test Matty, the Volvo needs it mate. I'm still struggling with understeer.
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I struggle to find time to test it.. :guilty:

It seemed very oversteery to me though..
 
Furinkazen
Honda has not as much torque as VW. That means the VW destroys
straights but Honda can just scoota round the corners.
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The problem is that the VW has around the same torque as Volvo. However the Volvo doesnt have an amazing corner ablitly. The VW can corner rather well, not the best but dam good, meaning that the VW hangs in in the corners and when theres a striaght it can fly past others

I'll try again for sure - but I think this may be the problem people are talking about
 
Strawman Andy
The problem is that the VW has around the same torque as Volvo. However the Volvo doesnt have an amazing corner ablitly.
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Your right about that Andy. Thats the problem with the Volvo right now but I'm hoping to sort it out for at least the second round.
 
FlyingFox
Your right about that Andy. Thats the problem with the Volvo right now but I'm hoping to sort it out for at least the second round.
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Im sure you can improve it - but my point was that the Volvo has more torque but the handling isnt as good. So you might improve its cornering but it will never be the best - or shouldnt - which means that what it loses in the corners, it makes up for the straights with the torque

The problem with the VW is it doesnt lose enough in the corners with the torque it has on the straights meaning it isnt balanced enough
 
Strawman Andy
TBH it has too much torque. Made a mistake on the last turn and lost 20mph, then at the end of the straight I was doing my Honda's top speed of 140mph!! :ouch:
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my infiniti only gets to about 127 by the first corner.....honda and vw overpowered on the straight?
 
And yet VW drivers have been complaining of fishtailing under brakes... I kept taking people off losing it under brakes... Tom has cut it down slightly. I made a set up change yesterday that helps my braking but significantly increases understeer....
 
FlyingFox
Don't worry Matty, I'll test on your belalf and pass the results on.
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Thanks Fox, I should be freer after the months out đź‘Ť
 
Furinkazen
And yet VW drivers have been complaining of fishtailing under brakes... I kept taking people off losing it under brakes... Tom has cut it down slightly. I made a set up change yesterday that helps my braking but significantly increases understeer....
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Whats your brake balance at?

Also the Honda is drifting when I got above 100mph - Im sliding the car around in the last few corners
 
To all drivers set the brake bias to 2/0 first then push it up if needed, it a great starting point for all cars.
 
Strawman Andy
Im sure you can improve it - but my point was that the Volvo has more torque but the handling isnt as good. So you might improve its cornering but it will never be the best - or shouldnt - which means that what it loses in the corners, it makes up for the straights with the torque

The problem with the VW is it doesnt lose enough in the corners with the torque it has on the straights meaning it isnt balanced enough
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Yeah your right. The Volvo will never be better than midfield this season, but I hope to improve it as the season goes on.

As for the Scirocco I have tested it and was suprised how quick it was. The '06 Golf would have been better but things are set in stone now so we'll just have to live with it.
 
Furinkazen
I try 1 1 and oddly find 10 10 effective at some tracks....
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I have to have a front heavy BB by at least two notches..

I normally range from 2-0 to 4-2.
 
Furinkazen
I try 1 1 and oddly find 10 10 effective at some tracks....
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10/10 means there very responsive and will lock up earlier - 1/1 is the opposite

FlyingFox
Yeah your right. The Volvo will never be better than midfield this season, but I hope to improve it as the season goes on.

As for the Scirocco I have tested it and was suprised how quick it was. The '06 Golf would have been better but things are set in stone now so we'll just have to live with it.
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Im not saying its going to be rubbish - Im just saying on the tracks which involve a lot of corning skills it wouldnt do as well. But for HSR and Le Sarthe it will be very strong due to the power
 
Strawman Andy
10/10 means there very responsive and will lock up earlier - 1/1 is the opposite
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It's to do with how tight they are right?
 
Matty
It's to do with how tight they are right?
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Pretty much yes. It means 10/10 you need less braking force (less braking) to slow down but a bad thing about that is it locks up quicker

1/1 means theres more braking force needed but means your less likely to lock up or not as quick as 10/10
 
Strawman Andy
Im not saying its going to be rubbish - Im just saying on the tracks which involve a lot of corning skills it wouldnt do as well. But for HSR and Le Sarthe it will be very strong due to the power
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Hey its not that fast down the straights of Le Sarthe as you think which was dissapointing considering.
 
Strawman Andy
Pretty much yes. It means 10/10 you need less braking force (less braking) to slow down but a bad thing about that is it locks up quicker

1/1 means theres more braking force needed but means your less likely to lock up or not as quick as 10/10
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I usually trail brake anyway, even with ABS on, so I should be grand. đź‘Ť
 
Oh yeah, Mini... I almost feel sorry for chris but he plugged away and gained a second the rest of the field over the weeks, he has a chance of an upset or two..

Also on nights i'm not doing NASCAR I should be able to have a results table up shortly after the race.
 
FlyingFox
Hey its not that fast down the straights of Le Sarthe as you think which was dissapointing considering.
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Its quicker than my Honda - its up there which is the point. Plus it pulls itselft out the corners well
 
neljack
Attenion Please :-)

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MORE ATTENTiON PLEASE, CARBONOX ONLY HAS A ONE VOTE LEAD SO IF YOU HAVEN'T VOTED FOR HIM YET PLEASE DO SO.
 
I reckon we are all a little concerned about each others cars. I'm concerned with Honda and Mazda, Honda and Mazda are concerned about VW..

So I may as well bring the Infiniti in. My god, a bullet off the line and it has not topped a single test this season, but always been around 3rd to 6th.... for consistency it's scary.
 
Furinkazen
I reckon we are all a little concerned about each others cars. I'm concerned with Honda and Mazda, Honda and Mazda are concerned about VW..

So I may as well bring the Infiniti in. My god, a bullet off the line and it has not topped a single test this season, but always been around 3rd to 6th.... for consistency it's scary.
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yea, but strawman was saying his Honda hits 140 at the end of the straight, and the VW could do that even when messing up the corners.....i wasnt even getting to 130 in the tow...
 
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gokartman78
yea, but strawman was saying his Honda hits 14o at the end of the straight, and the VW could do that even when messing up the corners.....i wasnt even getting to 130 in the tow...
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I'm no where near 140 anywhere on the track...
 
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