Top Gear To Do A Gt4 Feature

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so who seen it.. is there a new topic for this, if so, please link

i though it was great, but damn, he was only using d-pad.. even on ds2 the analogue sticks make it so much more controlled, lol, 17 sec's.. no chance
 
:indiff: Just watched it... Pretty disappointing, really. He used the D-pad instead of a wheel, and apparently had Sport tires on as he went a full 17 seconds faster in the game than in real life (1:57 vs 1:41) :indiff:

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i'm in america so i have to download it... wont be finnished for a few hours. goodnight :)
 
Indeed, a bit disappointing. He got the NSX-R, since that's the one you can drive in the monaco blue he chose.

I accidenlty picked the 90 nsx first and could not get below a 1.45.xx and that got me thinking... I drove a 1.39.xx on the first lap with sports medium's

I feel sorry that they did not did it a bit more 'in depth', compare tyres, use a DFP etc...
I did love his approach in the game though, brake early etc, and maybe a 1.41.xx on his first run should be OK. However, you might think that he practiced at home first???
 
Wasn't bad.

Obviousley he didnt go into too much detail concerning the car setup but he both prasied the game and criticised it. Which is fair enough.

"XplayBoxStation thingy"
 
k2racer
He got the NSX-R, since that's the one you can drive in the monaco blue he chose.
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Actually it was the NSX '01. You have to buy it from the dealer to unlock it in Arcade mode.
 
fair enough I did not do my homework as I should!

Now we should try to beat his time (tyres?) with the nsx '01, time to dig out the 100% savegame for that car
 
BuzzOrHowl
:indiff: Just watched it... Pretty disappointing, really. He used the D-pad instead of a wheel, and apparently had Sport tires on as he went a full 17 seconds faster in the game than in real life (1:57 vs 1:41) :indiff:

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I use the D-Pad.
 
Famine
I use the D-Pad.
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Yep if you've got the feel it can be just as effective as the joysticks, after all they are all pressure sensitive.

Must confess I use a wheel or the sticks myself, but from Famines times, he's got more than enough sensitivity in his fingers to get the most out of the buttons.

Regards

Scaff
 
AMG_SLK
@ sucahyo, Why not try yourself?
Goto www.bbc.co.uk/topgear and ask him to join us.
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Good idea, but

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k2racer
However, you might think that he practiced at home first???
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I’m sure he must have. It took me quite a few tries to work my way down to anywhere near his time and even then I was still 5 seconds shy.

My GT4 skills are sadly lacking but I could not resist having a go at duplicating his experiment. So I left my wife in front of the Christmas edition of French & Saunders and sneaking upstairs I fired up the old PS2 and spent the next forty minutes selecting the same car, (actually not as I’ve just found out on this very thread) same colour and fighting it out with the twists and turns of his chosen track. Even going so far as to save my best time as a replay so that my long suffering better half could pretend to be interested. (She does a great job, bless her.)

Although I don’t have a steering wheel setup (and wouldn’t want one) I must admit to being slightly disappointed that Mr Clarkson didn’t use one. I had imagined that he’d have set up a proper cockpit with all the trimmings. Also I thought it was a bit of a shame that the item was relegated to measly ten minutes at the end, although in fairness the series is after all “Top Gear” and not “Top Playstation” so I suppose I shouldn’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

Obviously I leave comments as to both his performance in game and on the track, as well as his comparisons between the two, to more able bodied racers than myself. It did after all take me the whole forty minute session to even approach his time, (if five seconds out can be considered approaching) but I would hold up my paw regarding one comment he made.

As he thundered down the opening straight on the real life track, he said something to the effect of..

“Here I go down the opening straight at over 100 mph and….. whoa! It’s not straight at all! In the game.. that’s a straight!”

Well I have to disagree there JC, in the game there is a distinct left hand incline as you race down that section, or in my case plough off the track and knock down the markers to the right hand side.

On the whole though I thought he showed the game in a fairly good light although I found some of his references to real life v’s on the sofa a little fatuous. But I’d be nitpicking if I pretended that this stopped me from enjoying the article.

I was quite impressed to see the track instructor giving him hints using the actual game itself and now I’m wondering whether it was Top Gears copy, or whether they keep a copy of the game on hand at the track.

Regardless I thought it was quite a coup for GT4, with the spot on the show showing off not only how great it looked, but also how faithful to the actual track the game version was.

Now if only someone at Top Gear had been impressed enough to create a regular feature with comparisons of different world tracks each week… that’d be great! A little expensive I suppose.. but great!

Badger
 
It was an interesting piece, but to short (in my opinion).

For me the single most important thing said was when JC was driving the NSX on GT4.

"Feel the understeer building up - That is realistic."

It adds one more person to the list who 'know' that understeer is not overdone in GT4, but rather that heavy understeer is a fact of life when driving at the limit on a track.

The most significant other areas were the 'fear' factor and how much it effects how you drive in the real world, particularly the approach to the corkscrew. The lack of real feel in GT4, i.e. no g-forces throwing you around the car.

Finally I would have loved to hear the discussion with the instructor on how GT4 vs the Real World differed, although throttle adjustablity mid-corner (common issue with a lot of sims) was mentioned as was the ease of braking (again very few sims correctly show lock-up).

Regards

Scaff
 
👍 nice, i've always been a big fan of top gear and for them to feature my fav game on their show will be interesting, i'd like to see what would become of that.

What time is it on?
 
I ran a 1:35.401 with the NSX-R '02, and a 1:37.325 with the NSX Type S '01. I'd say Jeremy would be a Div 3 driver. I wonder how the Stig would do....




rock. :cool:
 
JC said on the show that the Stig actually mentioned a lap of 1:41 was possible in the NSX. But the factors of: different tyres, the lack of fear in the game, and the G forces allow for the big difference in times between real life and game. I think this is good for GT4 though, as to recreate fear and G forces in a game is perhaps impossible the the moment, so it should shed no bad light on the game.
 
Actually it was the NSX '01. You have to buy it from the dealer to unlock it in Arcade mode
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Or just do it like JC:

I got round this by cheating. I called Sony and asked it to send me a game chip already loaded with the 700 computer cars. And I am in a position to test out its claims because, unlike most people, I really have driven almost all of them in real life.

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12529-1722790,00.html
 
in the show he choses the track in GT mode, then choses the 01 NSX, but drives a NSX-r magically, and his hands are not in time with the car, so i call SHENANIGENS!
 
Master_Yoda
is there vids peopel can DL of this for us americans? or is it not posible if so can you tell me i would love to see it.
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Last time I checked they have a bunch of Top Gear videos on Google Videos.
 
VeilsideR33sub
Please British Peeps to be Telling Me (1:57 vs 1:41) of Bleedin' What?
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The wonder that is Laguna Seca, one hell of a track to try and beat you're own GT4 time at. Its easy to throw yourself at the corkscrew in GT4 (after brake to late in GT4 and you don't die), quite a different thing on the real track.

SUROKIA
in the show he choses the track in GT mode, then choses the 01 NSX, but drives a NSX-r magically, and his hands are not in time with the car, so i call SHENANIGENS!
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Either that or the continuity and editing team have never seen GT before (or were just drunk).


Regards

Scaff
 
plus with gt4's physics you dont have to worry about certian things that you would have to in real life or other games that claim to be simulators as well :P

english good i speak?
 
Just saw it and I have to say: what a DISAPPOINTMENT the comparison is badly executed.
He didn't even try to play the game as realistically as possible! I did expect better from “Top Gear”.

From what I could see, he didn’t even use... (but should use)
  • N1 tires
  • Driving Force (Pro)
  • Manual Gearbox

Jermey Clarkson: do it proper next season!

I just drove in GT-Mode, World Circuit, Free Run, Laguna Seca .
- NSX ’01 280PS
- N1 Tires
- ALL Driving Aids OFF
- Driving Force Racing Wheel

1st lap 2:01,120 (I went off 3 times)
2nd 1:52,108
3rd 1:51,086

If you add the 5% margin (fear factor, G-forces) PD says, to the 1:51,086 you get about 1:56/57

If I try hard maybe I could set a 1:49,000.

I should say: Jermey Clarkson do it over next season! 👍
 
He used manual gears, you see him shift once or twice, secondly the games physics are the same with the DFP or pad, thirdly we have no idea what tyres he used, possibly N1's, possibly standard tyres. We don't know. Plenty of GT4 players have already got under JC's time using N1 tyres so thats still a bigger than 5% difference.
 
Hell lets bombard him with e-mails and see what happens.

TBH he didn't completely slate the game so I don't know why anyone is slating TopGear.
 
No he didn't, his biggest comments were that the brakes were better in GT4, you can adjust you power mid corner in GT4 and stay on the track more than you can irl and that you don't get nearly as much feedback, you obviousely don't feel the g-forces, but you don't feel all the bumps either, the road seems a lot smoother in GT4 and any racing game sim or not, than it feels from inside a real car at thoes speeds.
 
live4speed
He used manual gears, you see him shift once or twice, secondly the games physics are the same with the DFP or pad, thirdly we have no idea what tyres he used, possibly N1's, possibly standard tyres. We don't know. Plenty of GT4 players have already got under JC's time using N1 tyres so thats still a bigger than 5% difference.
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You say it yourself. We don't know what tyres he used! That's part of the problem. Tyres are the most important pieces of a car for better laptimes! JC knows that. But he did't even mention which tyres he used ingame and real. Tyres can greatly adjust handling, suspension, braking, traction etc.

Ofcourse you can drive way faster ingame but you can't create the same settings, factors or environment ingame and real and vice versa. But you can do everything to get the setting as close as possible ingame as in reallife, and JC didn't do that. That's my point.

Playing with a controller feels almost as playing another game in my opinion especially compared to a Driving Force that I have, lets not even talk about the Pro!
 
zonekill
You say it yourself. We don't know what tyres he used! That's part of the problem. Tyres are the most important pieces of a car for better laptimes! JC knows that. But he did't even mention which tyres he used ingame and real. Tyres can greatly adjust handling, suspension, braking, traction etc.

Ofcourse you can drive way faster ingame but you can't create the same settings, factors or environment ingame and real and vice versa. But you can do everything to get the setting as close as possible ingame as in reallife, and JC didn't do that. That's my point.

Playing with a controller feels almost as playing another game in my opinion especially compared to a Driving Force that I have, lets not even talk about the Pro!
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stop being such a gt4 nerd.
do you really expect someone who probably doesnt spend every waking moment (such as you clearly do) playing this GAME to know that "sports" tires are "faster" than real life tires? clearly an NSX should have SPORTS tires as it is a SPORTS car yes? as far as he is concerned... the tires that come on the car should be the TIRES THAT ACTUALLY COME ON THE CAR.
why get so insulted.....
 

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