Touring Car discussion - WTCC, BTCC etcTouring Cars 

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jake2013guy
In the first season, that was definitely the case. However, this season, the Golfs have really increased and the brand split will increase in years to come.
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Is the Golf TCR actually a VW, or is it a Seat with a Golf body? I somehow suspect it's the latter.
Glad we are seeing new brands coming in for next year, thought. Hopefully, the team that run the Subaru (name escapes me) figures that car out, and we see more of the Fords appear.
 
flip55
Is the Golf TCR actually a VW, or is it a Seat with a Golf body? I somehow suspect it's the latter.
Glad we are seeing new brands coming in for next year, thought. Hopefully, the team that run the Subaru (name escapes me) figures that car out, and we see more of the Fords appear.
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It's an actual VW.

The team that run the Subaru are called Top Run.
 
Remember the Golf's chassis is shared between the Leon and the Golf. So, short of body work there isn't a ton of difference between them when you reduce them to proper race cars. Same reason they allowed the TT's from last season --- they all share the same basic underpinnings (unless the TT has diverted in the past couple of years).
 
TheElbows
Remember the Golf's chassis is shared between the Leon and the Golf. So, short of body work there isn't a ton of difference between them when you reduce them to proper race cars. Same reason they allowed the TT's from last season --- they all share the same basic underpinnings (unless the TT has diverted in the past couple of years).
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VW has an adjustable chassis now so each model can have it's own wheelbase and dimentions, not exactly the same thing as your thinking.
 
mustafur
VW has an adjustable chassis now so each model can have it's own wheelbase and dimentions, not exactly the same thing as your thinking.
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Ah, I had TheElbow's thought on this one, thinking of the production models. Cheers! :cheers:
 
Are they still doing the MQB or whatever platforms from a few years ago? Wasn't it an expansion of the old school chassis idea (A4 etc.) but they have a couple different versions in each size range? I thought they had like three size classes, with each class having a few minor wheel base options - and some options for transverse mounted engines vs. longitudinal etc. I'd still imagine it's not much of a stretch to go back and forth working on the cars.

I know it's not like the 2000's era when it was a simple swap of body work/interior over the same car underpinnings.
 
AudiMan2011
Lada to leave WTCC after 2016.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/126962/lada-to-exit-wtcc-at-end-of-2016
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So now we're down to Honda (3) and Volvo (2, if we're lucky 3) for factory teams, and however many privateer Citroens and RML Chevys we get (~8 in total between the two marks?). At this rate, it may be the case where TCR International becomes the WTCC.
On another note, did read the article, it's interesting how Lada wants to build a TCR spec car...
 
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flip55
So now we're down to Honda (3) and Volvo (2, if we're lucky 3) for factory teams, and however many privateer Citroens and RML Chevys we get (~8 in total between the two marks?). At this rate, it may be the case where TCR International becomes the WTCC.
On another note, did read the article, it's interesting how Lada wants to build a TCR spec car...
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I can definitely see that happening in the short term. WTCC is dull and manufacturers are pulling out whereas TCR is adopting more series worldwide and more manufacturers.A far more sustainable model than the WTCC.

I can see Lada using the Vesta as a testing ground for their new TCR in Russia before launching it for use worldwide.
 
What a Qualifying session.



Q1 started dry giving a standard Top 12 with rain at the end of the session providing an incredible session.
 
Hello. New poster to the Touring Car forum.

Can someone give me a brief explanation as to what this series is about? Possibly looking to get into it if NASCAR ends up jumping the shark next season.
 
NASCARGT
Can someone give me a brief explanation as to what this series is about?
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I'm afraid you'll need to be more specific - this thread tends to act as a catch-all for touring car series that don't really have enough of a following to warrant their own threads.

Touring car racing is about taking production-based cars and modifying them for racing; the extent of the modifications vary from series to series. Some, like the German DTM championship, are silhouette series, where the cars only resemble their road-going counterparts and everything else is bespoke. Other series will have cars that are much closer to the base production models. The racing is usually very close - it's not uncommon to see cars leaning on one another to make a pass - and almost always on road circuits rather than ovals.

If you're looking to get into touring car racing, the best places to start would be V8 Supercars (now simply known as Supercars) or the British Touring Car Championship. If you're a fan of NASCAR, Supercars is probably right up your alley - they're big, heavy, four-door sedans with V8 engines and very little aerodynamic grip. The highlight of the year is the Bathurst 1000, a 1000km (620mi) endurance race at one of the greatest circuits on the planet, Mount Panorama. You can check out highlights on YouTube if you're interested.
 
BTCC is a good start IMO, the cars look like the one parked down the road with a couple of stickers on it and most the interior been auctioned off to pay for the stickers.
 
prisonermonkeys
I'm afraid you'll need to be more specific - this thread tends to act as a catch-all for touring car series that don't really have enough of a following to warrant their own threads.

Touring car racing is about taking production-based cars and modifying them for racing; the extent of the modifications vary from series to series. Some, like the German DTM championship, are silhouette series, where the cars only resemble their road-going counterparts and everything else is bespoke. Other series will have cars that are much closer to the base production models. The racing is usually very close - it's not uncommon to see cars leaning on one another to make a pass - and almost always on road circuits rather than ovals.

If you're looking to get into touring car racing, the best places to start would be V8 Supercars (now simply known as Supercars) or the British Touring Car Championship. If you're a fan of NASCAR, Supercars is probably right up your alley - they're big, heavy, four-door sedans with V8 engines and very little aerodynamic grip. The highlight of the year is the Bathurst 1000, a 1000km (620mi) endurance race at one of the greatest circuits on the planet, Mount Panorama. You can check out highlights on YouTube if you're interested.
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Okay. Thank you for the explanation. I will check out some highlights, especially of the V8 Supercars. I'll definitely take a look at the British Touring Car and DTM Championships.
 
NASCARGT
I will check out some highlights, especially of the V8 Supercars.
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You're in luck, because this weekend is the Sydney 500, the final round of the championship for the year. It's not the greatest circuit, but it will see the resolution of the drivers' championship. I don't know what viewing options for you will be like, but there are a few American forum members who are pretty active in the Supercars thread.
 
NASCARGT
Okay. Thank you for the explanation. I will check out some highlights, especially of the V8 Supercars. I'll definitely take a look at the British Touring Car and DTM Championships.
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The TCR International Series is also worth a look at. It's a new category/series that has been growing in competitiveness, depth and professionalism since it debuted in 2015. Races are held across the Eurasian continent and the racing this past season was very good.
 
NASCARGT
Okay. Thank you for the explanation. I will check out some highlights, especially of the V8 Supercars. I'll definitely take a look at the British Touring Car and DTM Championships.
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V8SC is tough to find in North America. Only reliable source I've found to watch full races is on illegal streams. I'd share mine with you, but we get in trouble for braking the law round these here parts. If you're interested, let me know and we can rendezvous under the overpass.

Best place I've found for BTCC is an app called Motortrend On Demand. Has full replays of all BTCC races. Also has hundreds of hours of other racing series and automotive TV shows. It does have v8sc and DTM, but only highlight packs, not the full race.

TCR you can watch on YouTube on the TCR International channel.

There's also WTCC, also on YouTube....but WTCC is pretty terrible right now.
 
Only proper VASC highlights. The past V8 races are scattered over Youtube. Some current races like the 1000 are there though.

Edit: Found some 2016 races on this guy's channel
 
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