Tri-Auto Cup - Series Champion: Johnnypenso

[The Reality]

Couldn't get the power down, or stay awake an entire lap.

 

[OwensRacing]

Couldn't get the power down, or stay awake an entire lap.

I got a 14.1 in draft. 14.7 x2 outside of draft.

No tune. No practice. Spent the day watching conspiracy theory videos. LOL guy on Facebook suckered me into watching a link he posted. Then I ended up in that Wierd part of YouTube. LMAO

 

[mercedesc300]

Very interested heres my entry:

#25/mercedesc300/datboitrey23/USA Lexus ISF RM/Pink

Hope to be racing!

 

[ryanerb]

Sorry I didnt make it out today. I have had a LOT going on and have had a headache most of the day today. Maybe next race but I still dont know.

I may have to jump in on another even later on after some of the dust settles with what I am working with.

Either way it has been fun and great run events to say the least. 👍

 

[Johnnypenso]

Good show again today Sag. Well run, on time and another good rolling start. Was lots of fun. I'm starting to get the hang of this endurance racing with tire wear...lol.

 

[gknap]

Good race guys!

Thank you JP for the damper tip, it really saved my race. Without it I would have pitted twice. And Congrats, you were untoutchable.

Looking forward to the next race

 

[Johnnypenso]

Don't want anyone to feel left out, but Knap and I were doing a bit of testing before the event and he asked me for some suggestions on helping to control entry oversteer. The one that seemed to work was raising the rear extension damper value. As I understand it, how it's supposed to work is, the higher the number the more resistance there is to extending the damper, and thus it helps to reduce weight transfer to the front end under braking and therefore can help with entry oversteer. Sometimes it works well, sometimes it doesn't depending on what's happening with the rest of your tune. I think it's works fine for small adjustments to a tune that is close, but it won't correct major entry oversteer. In that case you have to go to the rest of your tune to calm it down a bit before getting to the fine tuning of the dampers.

Simlarly the front extension damper, can be adjusted to help with exit over/understeer. A higher value should help reduce weight transfer to the rear, keeping more weight on the front under accel, and thus reduce exit understeer. A lower value will allow more weight transfer to the rear, taking weight off the front and thus reduce oversteer. Again, I think it's more of a fine adjustment tool but it can make some difference in tire wear and drivability over a long run as it did for Knap.

Not sure if Knap followed this suggestion or not, but I did suggest lower brake balances to help with tire wear. I ended up running with 1/2 and got 17 laps out of my first set of tires and could probably have gotten 20 out of the second set. I think I had 3/2 on at Trial Mountain. Hard braking and high brake balance settings really chews up the tires. Lower brake balances also help to maintain control of the car while trail braking because you are slightly below the braking limits of the car and the tires are still rotating relatively more free than they would at say 5/5 etc.

 

[SagarisGTB]

Round 2 Results

Congrats to Johnnypenso on another session of domination! 👍

Incidents: There were a few more late braking maneuvers than I'd like to have seen. Please be careful under braking and don't try to overtake when you are completely behind prior to braking unless the driver ahead makes a mistake. It's not just a dangerous way to try to overtake, but it will likely cost both of the drivers time to other racers on track. Fortunately, the late braking maneuvers probably didn't affect the result on Sunday. Also, please remember to yield to fast approaching drivers when you are exiting the pits. Moving onto the racing line from the pits in front of another driver is a punishable offense.

Also, please do not leave the room during qualifying. If you need to leave the room to regain tire noise (or for any other reason), let me know first and I'll let you go after I record your lap time.

Updated Individual Points
Updated Manufacturer Points

Very interested heres my entry:

#25/mercedesc300/datboitrey23/USA Lexus ISF RM/Pink

Hope to be racing!

Welcome! We only have one race left, but it should be the best one yet on the wide and fast Grand Valley.

You will have to choose another number though, as #25 is already taken.

 

[OwensRacing]

Round 2 Results

Congrats to Johnnypenso on another session of domination! 👍

Incidents: There were a few more late braking maneuvers than I'd like to have seen. Please be careful under braking and don't try to overtake when you are completely behind prior to braking unless the driver ahead makes a mistake. It's not just a dangerous way to try to overtake, but it will likely cost both of the drivers time to other racers on track. Fortunately, the late braking maneuvers probably didn't affect the result on Sunday. Also, please remember to yield to fast approaching drivers when you are exiting the pits. Moving onto the racing line from the pits in front of another driver is a punishable offense.

Also, please do not leave the room during qualifying. If you need to leave the room to regain tire noise (or for any other reason), let me know first and I'll let you go after I record your lap time.

Updated Individual Points
Updated Manufacturer Points
Welcome! We only have one race left, but it should be the best one yet on the wide and fast Grand Valley.

You will have to choose another number though, as #25 is already taken.

I made more mistakes in this race then I care to even mention. But the bolder was plain ignorance on my fault.

Not really having the time to practice and tune. The obvious results from last week says I need not race with out having time to practice.

Besides this last track was a follow the leader. No place to pass. Either be pushy or follow. Meh

So anyway with that. I'm gonna have to resign. Lack of time is effecting others. Not cool.


Deeply apologize for the lackluster performance and having to resign.

Good luck beating those AWD monsters.

 

[Johnnypenso]

That's too bad Owens, you had the third fastest lap of the race. Coulda been right there.

I don't mind tracks that are hard to pass on so long as it's not a short sprint race. We all qualified, so we're going to be around drivers the same speed as us and with 30 laps and a pit stop, there's plenty of time to conjure up a passing strategy, put pressure on someone etc. I like the longer races for that reason, you can take your time to figure things out, rather than rush a pass that may or may not end up clean. Running behind someone in the draft also allows you to save your tires so that later in the run you have more grip than they do, so when they start to push or oversteer, you can drop right into the gap and off you go.

 

[TAKITALA]

Dear Owen, as one of your mistakes victim, i must said that one day is not days and a bad day is usually followed by a good one, so that is not a excuse to steal from us the pleasure of your presence.
Cheers.

 

[hasslemoff]

Dear Owen, as one of your mistakes victim, i must said that one day is not days and a bad day is usually followed by a good one, so that is not a excuse to steal from us the pleasure of your presence.
Cheers.

Dont go Owen need thoose corvette points 👍

I need to get some practice for sunday to have any chance of catching thoose Skylines, hopefully the corners will help

 

[SagarisGTB]

I don't mind tracks that are hard to pass on so long as it's not a short sprint race. We all qualified, so we're going to be around drivers the same speed as us and with 30 laps and a pit stop, there's plenty of time to conjure up a passing strategy, put pressure on someone etc. I like the longer races for that reason, you can take your time to figure things out, rather than rush a pass that may or may not end up clean. Running behind someone in the draft also allows you to save your tires so that later in the run you have more grip than they do, so when they start to push or oversteer, you can drop right into the gap and off you go.

Sorry to hear that Owens, especially right before the finale at the most conventional and accommodating track. Selfishly, this is the track where I want a large grid. I think we are on course for one nevertheless.

Johnny has it right. It's not easy to overtake, but that's real racing too. In this past race, I overtook g_knap through the pit stops but he passed me later with a great overtake in corner 1. That's all the on track action I had and I was in tire conservation mode all race, but I still enjoyed it greatly because it was close most of the way. I guess that's not for everyone though. When it's easy to overtake, because of drafting, I think it cheapens the whole overtaking experience. It's too easy and it doesn't give the defending driver a chance. When it's difficult to overtake, it gives the defending driver more than a chance, so when they do everything right, they can often keep their position. The overtaking driver requires patience and, when an opportunity does arise, execution to make a move. That's sort of what real professional racing seems like.

The third and final round is in:

I hope to see everyone there!
I'll have the pre-race details up on Saturday. I'll have an official practice session on Saturday as well, for one hour starting at 8 pm GMT.

I need to get some practice for sunday to have any chance of catching thoose Skylines, hopefully the corners will help

The Skyline has less downforce than the other two cars, the high-speed corners are where the Corvette will have the advantage. But the Skyline in the hands of JP and Gknap would be tough to beat anywhere.

 

[gknap]

What laptimes are u guys getting?

My current PB is 1.49.711

(Yes I am competitive, and yes, my dad is stronger than yours!)

 

[Johnnypenso]

Haven't touched the car yet but that sounds about right.

 

[SagarisGTB]

The Official Saturday Practice session is now live in the racing lounge.

Edit: Practice session has concluded. My best was 1'49.9, but I was concentrating on longer runs and only did one quali style time-attack, so there's at least a few tenths to come off from that for me.

Tomorrow is race day!

A few things to note/remember:
-Familiarize yourself with the qualifying and race procedure. It would make things a lot easier for me if everyone knew what was happening.
-Please do not leave the room during qualifying. If you need to leave the room to regain tire noise (or for any other reason), let me know first and I'll let you go after I record your lap time.
-If you disconnect during or just prior to qualifying, send me a message as soon as possible.

Grand Valley Speedway specific regulations

When entering and exiting the pit-lane at Grand Valley, do not cross the solid yellow line. You may cross the broken yellow line at any time. If you are not exiting the pit lane, you may cross the line at the pit-lane exit to overtake; however be aware, drivers exiting the pits have priority on the track between the yellow lines.

All asphalt and rumble strips are considered track. Concrete is not track. Remember, you must have two wheels on/over the track at all times.

Race is 20 laps, including the warm up lap.

Track Map

The small yellow mark is the point where the leading car can go full speed, but no overtaking until the start of lap 2.
The blue area is the line-up area where the grid will gather in order on lap 1. Remember to come to a complete stop during the line up phase, and then wait until the race director will issue the 'START' signal.

 

[Akmuq]

For the final race....
#15 / akmuq / GTP_akmuq / Ireland / Lexus IS-F / Orange

 

[SagarisGTB]

For the final race....
#15 / akmuq / GTP_akmuq / Ireland / Lexus IS-F / Orange

Good to see you akmuq.
If you need a (basic) tune, send me a pm.

 

[hasslemoff]

What laptimes are u guys getting?

My current PB is 1.49.711

(Yes I am competitive, and yes, my dad is stronger than yours!)

Good time, Im struggling to get into the 49s at the moment with the vette

 

[Akmuq]

Good to see you akmuq.
If you need a (basic) tune, send me a pm.

Sorry, won't actually make it tonight, commited to another championship that I forgot about.

Good luck.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Good time, Im struggling to get into the 49s at the moment with the vette

Best I think I'll be able to manage is mid to high 49's myself. I did try a few laps on the Vette with the tune I put on it for testing at Trial Mountain and was able to peel off several laps 50.0-50.3 so I have a feeling it's going to be a very close race all around. May come down to tire wear and conserving and going for a late push.....on the other hand shaving a few tenths off every lap and creating a gap may also work. Tough call..

 

[hasslemoff]

Ahh stuck in traffic might be late or not make it.


Edit: made it lol. Its amazing how you can sit in a traffic jam for half an hour then all of sudden it becomes clear. Always baffles me

 

[SagarisGTB]

Hope you make it hass.

Racing lounge is open for practice. Qualifying will begin on the hour.

 

[gknap]

Great Race all!

I'm sad to see this series finished.
Great racers and top notch organizing by Sagaris.

Thanks Sag for hosting this cup!

 

[hasslemoff]

Great Race all!

I'm sad to see this series finished.
Great racers and top notch organizing by Sagaris.

Thanks Sag for hosting this cup!

👍👍👍👍👍

Great pace by you and Johnny tonight well done, enjoyed racing with you all.

 

[Johnnypenso]

What a spectacular finale:tup:👍 A nose to tail battle for virtually the entire 20 laps between Knap and I with Knap squeaking out a victory by a couple of tenths. I patiently waited for Knap to make a mistake but it never came...heckuva race Knap!!👍👍

Someone requested my tune and here it is:

Ballast 60 kgs@50 (rear) for 53/47 to make weight minimum
Aero Max

LSD Front 10/10/10
LSD Rear 8/11/7
Torque Split 30/70

Transmission Top Speed 420 km/h
1-3.63
2-2.29
3-1.608
4-1.18
5-.915
6-.743

I was upshifting between 5500-6000 rpm to stay in the peak of the power band.

Ride 0/-10
Springs 10.0/7.7
Front Dampers 10/7
Rear Dampers 5/4
ARB 2/7

Camber 1.5/.5
Toe -.10/.05
Brake Balance 1/1

I use the DFGT wheel. The low brake balance provides great stability on corner entry even on worn tires and so long as you stay on the racing line, it's almost impossible for the car to get squirrely under braking. It also allows you to brake deep into corners as well aka trail braking. And contrary to popular belief, it has almost zero effect on braking power and lap times. I ran the same tune at Autumn Ring with a BB of 1/2 and pretty much the same at TM with a BB of 2/3.

 

[OwensRacing]

If it would of rained today I was gonna make it. However it was 85 and sunny. We spent the day out and about.

 

[SagarisGTB]

Thanks everyone for coming out. I'll have the final results up tomorrow.

I'd kindly like to ask anyone who has participated in any of the races (including preseason) to fill out a short survey about certain elements used in this series. Please be honest, being nice just to be nice during the survey does not help me. If you don't wish to share your answers publicly, you can pm me.

Tri-Auto Cup Post-Series Survey
1. Did you enjoy the Super Lap qualifying format? What would you change?
2. Do you agree with points being given out for qualifying?
3. What did you think about the start procedure used during this series? What would you change?

 

[The Reality]

Apologies for not being able to make the final. I do thank you for running the series though, annoyed I wasn't able to produce a much stronger performance (connection issues in the first race really didn't help - I'm very competitive).

Tri-Auto Cup Post-Series Survey
1. Did you enjoy the Super Lap qualifying format? What would you change?

I prefered the qualifying method used in GT4 Cup.

2. Do you agree with points being given out for qualifying?

Yes

3. What did you think about the start procedure used during this series? What would you change?

I liked that it wasn't too long so nerves didn't get a chance to get too high, but would of found it better that cars only sped up on the start/finish line. Be good to have 2 by 2 instead of single file too, so there is more overtaking opportunity in the first few corners.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Tri-Auto Cup Post-Series Survey

1. Did you enjoy the Super Lap qualifying format? What would you change?To be honest, I didn't think I would like it but it turned out to add another layer of competition and something a little different from the race formats I'm used to. I enjoyed it.

2. Do you agree with points being given out for qualifying? Yes:tup:👍

3. What did you think about the start procedure used during this series? What would you change? My first rolling start and I was really looking forward to it as a way of helping to avoid the first corner chaos and it didn't disappoint. While it is fun and challenging to head into the first corner with a huge pack, it sometimes ends in calamities that are avoidable that ruin a lot of driver's entire races. I ran in the Mini-Madness event at Eiger on Saturday with a standing start on the Reverse track and it ended up being complete chaos in the tunnel with drivers that are pretty good and clean. One guy gets loose and a bit sideways near the front and that's all she wrote for 3/4 of the entire field. I know accidents are a part of racing but if they are avoidable through logistics and good planning, then I'd rather avoid them even if it means the field is a bit spread out at the S/F line.