Triple-S Championship ~ Series Champion: B_O_B_EU

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This July, the Super FR Saloon Championship (https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=198741) will become the Super Sport Saloon Touring Car Championship - or Triple-S.

Front engine, production saloon/sedan cars – FR or 4WD; hatchback, 3-box, 2/3/4/5-door sedan-coupe or estate (basically no ‘true’ sports cars or GTs). Good variety. Sports medium tyres. 493BHP, 1400KG. Free tuning and modifications, including aerodynamic parts. No aids except ABS.

Examples: BMW 135i, M3, CSL, GTR, M5; Chevrolet Camaro SS '10; Dodge Challenger; Ford Mustang GT, SVT Cobra R; Infiniti G35 Coupe/Sedan; Jaguar XFR, S-Type R; Lexus IS-F, GS300; Mercedes C63 AMG, E55, CLK55, CL600; Lotus Carlton; Nissan Skyline 350GT Sedan/Coupe, 370GT Coupe, Skyline GT-R; TOM'S X540 Chaser; Buick GNX; Chrysler 300C; Holden Monaro, Commodore; Pontiac GTO 5.7; Toyota Caldina, Aristo, Soarer; Subaru Impreza, Legacy; Mitsubishi Lancer Evo; Audi S4, RS4, RS6. Eligibility is basically determined by body shape/type and/or number of seats (4).

EVENT INFORMATION:
The races in this series take place in UK time, in the evenings (race start 21:00). Practice/qualifying of 45 minutes, before a race of approximately 1 hour duration. False start check ENABLED, grip reduction REAL, penalties OFF, damage LIGHT, tyre/fuel depletion ON. I won't patronise or bore you or insult your intelligence about the tenets of clean and fair racecraft - I'll assume you know how to behave. If unsure, please consult the official GTP guidelines: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=111241

For this series, drivers may choose to race either individually or as a two-driver team. Individuals may enter a team name if they wish; two-driver teams must be given a name (eg. Something Competition, Scuderia Bastardi, Team Whatever). All drivers may run whichever car from the above list they choose, but a team’s cars must be exactly the same colour (both body and wheels). One team’s colour schemes must be sufficiently different to another’s to make recognition easy.

POINTS STRUCTURE:
1st - 25; 2nd - 22; 3rd - 20; 4th - 18; 5th - 16; 6th - 14; 7th - 12; 8th - 10; 9th - 8; 10th - 7; 11th - 6; 12th - 5; 13th - 4; 14th - 3; 15th - 2; 16th – 1

DRIVER STANDINGS:
1. B_O_B_EU ----- 70
2. T-Fri ----- 59
3. Sumo098 ----- 56
4. jackargent ----- 44
5. Phayzor ----- 42
6. oneninelima ----- 38
7. zwyatt ----- 30
8. Calum_McHale ----- 22
9. wat3rm370n ----- 12

TEAM STANDINGS:
1. Nordic Mafia ----- 129
2. Sofa Drivers ----- 56
3. Swashbucklers Racing ----- 52
4. Ralliart ----- 42
5. Ecurie Londres ----- 38

RACE RESULTS:
HIGH SPEED RING: 1. T-Fri; 2. zwyatt; 3. B_O_B_EU; 4. jackargent; 5. oneninelima; 6. Sumo098; 7. Phayzor

CIRCUITO DE MADRID: 1. B_O_B_EU; 2. Calum_McHale; 3. Sumo098; 4. oneninelima; 5. T-Fri; 6. Phayzor; 7. jackargent; 8. zwyatt (lap 1 ramming penalty - 1 place drop to 9th)

GRAND VALLEY SPEEDWAY: 1. B_O_B_EU; 2. Sumo098; 3. oneninelima; 4. T-Fri; 5. Phayzor; 6. jackargent; 7. wat3rm370n

INTEREST ROSTER (team name - username - car):
Ecurie Londres - oneninelima - BMW M3 (Lagunaseca Blau)
Nordic Mafia - T-Fri - Subaru Impreza WRX (Silver-Grey)
Nordic Mafia - B_O_B_EU - Subaru Impreza WRX (Silver-Grey)
Ralliart - xkubunt - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo (Passion Red)
Ralliart - Phayzor - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo (Passion Red)
Sofa Drivers - wat3rm370n - BMW 135i (Raspberry Red Pearl)
Sofa Drivers - jackargent - BMW M5 (Raspberry Red Pearl)
BMW Team Schnitzer - I3ertram - BMW M3 (White)
Swashbucklers Racing - zwyatt - Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 (Black Pearl)
Swashbucklers Racing - Calum_McHale - Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 (Black Pearl)
Sumo098 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 (Black)
Kristian-Rekvin - Lexus IS-F (Carneolrot Metallic)
CharlieDeltaEcho

INFORMATION FOR ENTRANTS - PLEASE READ CAREFULLY:
At least two wheels on track at all times (unless you lose time as a result of coming off), the track being defined by the white lines at the edges. When entering/exiting the pit lane, do so cleanly and safely, staying within the white lines on both entry and exit. If you gain a place by cutting a corner, or directly causing disadvantage to another car (eg. running them off track), you must immediately concede a place. The same car for the whole series for each driver. Car colour should not be changed during the series. You must be registered in order to take part. Points will not be awarded if you use a different car during the series. A race must be completed fully (without disqualification) to achieve points. If two drivers are tied for points, precedence will be taken by he who has the most of the highest race finish results. Unsportsmanlike behaviour may result in a time penalty or disqualification from the round. There are no non-participating stewards, so all drivers must report incidents themselves to the organiser (yours truly), with relevant details, including the time (or lap) and exact location. This includes corner cutting and hard contacts. Such reports will be treated with confidence. The organiser reserves the right to act as sole agent in making judgments and awarding penalties and disqualifications, but may seek the opinions of others in reaching a decision, especially on the severity of the penalty. Participation in the championship means agreement to these terms. These terms apply to all participants, including those who are not members of GTPlanet and are just PSN friends. Any issues relating to these terms must be raised before series commencement. Be aware that races may be rescheduled at any time during the season, and may even be at very short notice.

ADDITIONAL: Drivers may change cars for the championship during the season, but at the cost of all their accumulated driver championship points to date. Car changes may only be made before the third round of the season.

And yes, the championship winner will receive a prize. If the organiser is the winner, the second place driver will receive this prize instead.
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Sounds like a lot of fun.

I'm interested in joining, but need to know the day and time to be 100% sure I'm able to stay commited.

Only opinions I got regarding the rules is:
Tyres: SS is a bit to sticky for production cars running 525 pp. I'd go with Sports Medium.
Penalties: OFF (since we got a steward to hand out penalties, we don't need the AI to hand out stupid penalties also.)
Damage: If set to "Light", it would make the racing less aggressive.

That was just some input from me. I'm interested either way, but just wanted to post my opinions. 👍

GTP: Denilson
PSN: chorda
Car: M3 CSL
Color: Lazer blueish (Don't know the exact name of the color. I'll update as soon as I know what it's' called)
 
To the interested racer, please register your PSN username, either in your post, or in a private message. Please do not hesitate to message me with any queries you may have.

In the near future, I will be holding practice events for those currently participating in the Super FR Saloon Championship (the future predecessor of the Triple-S), together with those interested in this new series. If you so wish, you may also enter the remaining events in the SFRS Championship (with an eligible car). This would be a good opportunity to get to know us who are currently participating. Please refer to the SFRS thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=198741

We are currently a small group, an easygoing bunch from very different backgrounds, and are passionate about clean, fair racing - proper simulation style! We are welcoming and supportive to new players who wish to learn and develop as racers, as well as seasoned veterans on online racing.

Hope to see you in lobby soon!

- 19L
 
LOL, Was I to fast..
 
Denilson - first, hello! Thanks for your input, be assured it's well received.

Currently in SFRS we're running Tuesdays and Fridays, with racing starting at 21:30 UK (GMT+1). For Triple-S, expect this to be most likely in the 20:30-21:30 bracket. As for days, this may change - we'll see what everyone says and wants, whether it be either just weekdays, or weekends also.

As for regulations, at 520PP the poll in SFRS registered a majority in favour of SS tyres. Personally, I'd prefer mediums as you say (500PP SH, 550PP SS is about right for me). However, in view of the lack of driving aids and aerodynamic upgrades, as well as my target participant driving ability bracket (which is fairly open), I feel that SS is the most suitable - I want cornering speeds to be sufficient to warrant the "Super" in the title! Me, I find it challenging enough over the period of a race. Nevertheless, if the demand for hard or medium compounds is sufficient, I may relent in this matter.

On penalties, I have to agree - we've had no use for them so far. We're fair enough to know to concede an unfairly-gained position. On damage, I am undecided, and am even considering heavy. I like the realism of heavy, "non-healing" damage, and the incentive for driving carefully it represents, but am wary of putting people off with the prospect of being hit by a careless driver at the first corner and losing the chance to compete (this is only a game after all - we do this for fun). Again, we'll see what people think about this.
 
Definitely interested. I have no clue what car I'll be using yet, but my Colours will be Blu Cosmo Metallizzato, with Silver Chrome wheels.

PSN = MULE_9242

Tires, I agree with Sport Soft, however I'll agree with Denilson and say that penalties should be off.

Damage, I prefer light, but i'm fine with anything.

Fridays or Sundays will work best for me, especially considering that the races are at 4:00 PM my time.
 
PSN ID: marluxiaXI11

color: dark blue

Car: camaro
 
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Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and scoop up a Nissan Skyline 370GT. Or an Infiniti G37 like what they're called over here. Beautiful car, really and was my first choice when I saw this thread, but getting it to the PP limit confirmed it for me.

GTP: MÜLE_9242
PSN: MULE_9242
Car: Skyline 370GT Coupe
Color: Stratosphere Blue / Silver Chrome
 
Thanks for the interest!

Thinking about penalties, I have to wonder about somebody who, when they are out of sight of another player, would cut a corner to gain a couple of seconds. In this case, a light penalty would be ideal, since it would negate the advantage they try to gain by cutting the corner, without awarding silly penalties for the race's inevitable bumps and taps. Unlikely, yes, but still, what do you reckon? Heavy penalties are out of the question, of course (the rammed getting the rammer's penalty, grrr).

Remember, if you have an FR car, you can race with us tonight!
 
I am interested.
Though again, I'm fretting about car choice. lol

I'm going to try to make it today. Though I have to say I'm terrible in the 135i... though I will say it's much more fun than I thought it would be!! :)
 
I'd be interested. I probably won't make it tonight though. We'll see.👍:
 
watermelonpunch
I am interested.
Though again, I'm fretting about car choice. lol

I'm going to try to make it today. Though I have to say I'm terrible in the 135i... though I will say it's much more fun than I thought it would be!! :)
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Hi, hope to see you! I'll give you a shout. For July, if the BM is still a handful, may I recommend the Skyline R34. Great, solid car, incredibly driver-friendly.

SFRS lounge opens tonight at 20:45 UK time. Grand Valley Speedway Reverse, 22 laps.
 
Hello 19L! I'll be more than willing to join, I've learnt lots from participating in SFRS. I'm still deciding on what car I'm going to use, the C63 has been a bit of a hassle but has gotten there in the end. I'll be searching around for a car. Thanks again.
 
I'll be trying to continue toward a modicum of aptitude, if I'm allowed back? :)
 
Snapped a couple pics of my car. Yes, I know I have aero kits on it, as I've had this car for a while now. I have taken them off.

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Great looking motor. Hope to race soon!
 
Sign me up 19L, already got myself a car for this series.
 
I've never tried the Skyline R34. The only Skylines I've tried, I think of them as fish-tailing into straights. haha! You know where you get that pivot-wallow that won't stop. But maybe it's not all 5 million Skylines that have that problem. haha.

I was glad that with the 135i, I was able to tune it so that it really stays put in cornering. I don't like fish-tailing forever coming out of a turn. I'm sure nobody does, but I really really struggle if a car is doing that at all. I'm just not skillful enough to deal with it.

My only real gripe with the 135i is that... no matter what settings I tried, it just REFUSES to do any braking oversteer, and I really like a bit of that.

And I think I remember when I tried the M5, I was a little frustrated with the steering. But maybe I should try someone else's set-up, of course.

And what do people think of the Toyota Altezza?

I actually have a Monaro, because I liked the look of it! haha. But I've not tried it yet. I looked up in the tuning forum though, and it's reported to be rough on tires... And my struggles with sports soft tires as it is, that's probably not a good choice. Has anyone had some experience with it? Paper-wise it looks as if it should be pretty fast with weight reduction.

Anyway, about tires... I'm at the low ability end of the spectrum for sure, and I would have NO problem with sports medium, per se. I don't really care what the tire restriction is. But sports soft isn't really going to help me any (if that's the thinking). Simply because at least with mediums, I find them more predictable, if that makes any sense. Maybe other people have a different experience? Maybe it's my driving, I don't know. I'm no expert.
 
Yeah, the R34 is a much better-developed animal compared to the 32 and 33. It really does let you take it by the scruff of the neck without biting back. Get one, you won't regret it. If you like, I can recommend a specific setup for it.

The Altezza, while a pretty well-rounded car, isn't really up to it in this. I had one recently and maxxed it out, it only reached the upper 400s in PP.

The Monaro is also a great driver's car, and as you say, it can be hard on its shoes without very careful tuning and driving. It's quite a rough and ready car, keen to go sideways, and doesn't have the chassis refinement of, say, an M3, so it'll take a top gun pilote to succeed in one.

Just remember, as fun as drifting is - sideways is slowways! Racing 101: Smoothness first. And about tyre compounds, remember that your suspension settings need to be appropriate to the tyre compound in order to achieve predictable handling. Fact is, settings being ideal, softs are very much quicker.
 
I'm really tempted to use my M3 CSL now, I used it on the Thursday practice (stock & needing an oil change) and it kept up with Phayzors C63 for a few laps until I messed up a turn. Other than that I might break out the RS6 Avant, brilliant car! However doing some high speed ring hot laps it turned out to be a little slower than the 135i but I may put that down to the fact I've had alot more experience in the little BMW.

Do you know if you'll do any practices tonight?
 
OK, if anyone's up for it, the next round in the SFRS is tomorrow night, starting 21:30 UK, lounge open for practice earlier than usual at 20:00.
 
Yes, I would appreciate set-up for the R34.
As it happens, I actually have one. I found this out after I bought another one from the UCD. ha. I never used it, I forgot it was there.

I don't generally drift on purpose btw. If it ever looks like I'm drifting - it's because I did some late-braking by accident & I'm trying to correct the mistake. LOL.

And softs may be faster... BUT... all things being equal (if everyone's on the same tires)... I'd probably do no worse or better. Except that I just think medium tires are more predictable the way they warm up & wear out. That said, I'm terrible on hard because I tend to wear them out before they warm up!
 
REGULATIONS UPDATE.

After doing some testing, I've made up my mind to change the regulations from 525PP/SS, to 500bhp, 1400kg, sports medium tyres, free aero.

Having a maximum power and minimum weight is more realistic than a PP limit, while keeping different cars very roughly equal in basic performance. Also, medium tyres, in my now strong opinion, are the best compromise between grip, longevity and behaviour, for this power/weight category. Aerodynamic parts provide an extra dimension for performance tuning, and also make the cars look more "Super". Those concerned with the lack of mechanical grip of mediums compared to softs should welcome the extra aerodynamic downforce.
 
I'll be in an Evo for this, just managed to blitz both my 135 and an RS6 lap times on High speed ring.

I think the new regs could be pretty good, would mean some cars needing the weight added/not taken away and others can push the weight down and not have to worry about the pp limit. My Evo is at 478bhp with all upgrades however a couple of hundred miles and an oil change and I should 'hopefully' hit 500.

Also after the last SFRS race on Thursday are you going to be running some practice sessions for this series so we can see how our cars compare?
 
xkubunt
...I should 'hopefully' hit 500.

Also after the last SFRS race on Thursday are you going to be running some practice sessions for this series so we can see how our cars compare?
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I expect you'll need engine tuning stage 2, at least, in addition to all the rest.

I'll be holding not just practice lobbies, but also full-duration pre-season single races. Dunno what car I'll decide on, I'm gonna wait and see what everyone else chooses before choosing mine - try and get the best variation. Definitely no BMW for me!
 
designate-19L


I expect you'll need engine tuning stage 2, at least, in addition to all the rest.

I'll be holding not just practice lobbies, but also full-duration pre-season single races. Dunno what car I'll decide on, I'm gonna wait and see what everyone else chooses before choosing mine - try and get the best variation. Definitely no BMW for me!
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I've currently got stage 3 engine & stage 3 turbo on my Evo, still only 480hp. It's the Evo 7 or 6 I believe so it's getting on a bit. It's a dream to drive plus it has some aero as stock.

My 135i on a single hotlap (high speed ring) did a 1:10.947 while the Evo did a 1:09.783, pretty big difference considering the HP on both is about 480hp.
 
xkubunt
I've currently got stage 3 engine & stage 3 turbo on my Evo, still only 480hp. It's the Evo 7 or 6 I believe so it's getting on a bit. It's a dream to drive plus it has some aero as stock.

My 135i on a single hotlap (high speed ring) did a 1:10.947 while the Evo did a 1:09.783, pretty big difference considering the HP on both is about 480hp.
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Is that really all? Sure you've got sports manifolds and everything else? Engine rebuild...? Don't forget to put a wing on if you want, they're legal now.

Mind you, 20bhp isn't a lot if the car's nimble enough, you should be able to really fight in the twisties...
 
designate-19L


Is that really all? Sure you've got sports manifolds and everything else? Engine rebuild...? Don't forget to put a wing on if you want, they're legal now.

Mind you, 20bhp isn't a lot if the car's nimble enough, you should be able to really fight in the twisties...
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Got everything, apart from the fully customisable suspension & LSD. It's fun to drive and reasonably quick but I don't know how it'll do compared to the other cars (well.. the BMW's). It's pretty much brand new from the premium dealership so no chance of an engine rebuild just yet. I might run it in for a few laps of Daytona or Nurb seeing as it's only done about 40 miles.

I was playing around with the controller the other day (AYC controller? or the other one) and having the power 40/60 seemed to make the car a little more nimble. Not too sure if it actually made a difference but it seemed like it did.
 
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