Tuning cars in GT5

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For me the main thing I want to know about GT5 now is how are they going to go about tuning, so I was very happy when I saw this in the recent interview with Kaz;

In the shop there will be many accessories to improve your cars. The master was particularly proud of this facet of the game. He commented that we can change almost every imaginable piece of the vehicle, not just the typical sections of the engine, brakes, etc.

Well its not much to go on but one thing we can say for sure is that tuning in GT5 will have a lot more attention to detail than GT4 but how do you think they will go about it and how would you like to see it implemented?

I expect it means you can buy individual parts instead of having just 3 stages of n/a tuning like in GT4 where you have certain engine parts in a package.

I’m hoping that individual parts can be damaged as a consequence of either not servicing the car properly, crashing the car or neglecting crucial parts when the performance has been increased e.g. drastically increasing the power of the engine and not fitting something like heavy duty con-rod bolts or drive-shafts could result in catastrophic damage so you will eventually need to spend more money. This will make car tuning a lot more involving and realistic so you can’t just stick a massive turbo on a Fiat Panda and it runs sweet as a nut forever. Also it would be great to see differences in performance parts from different tuning companies.

Perhaps that short quote from the interview just means we’ll have a greater range of parts to modify in each area as well as having new areas to modify like bodywork. My idea of having the parts damaged is probably a bit ambitious but that’s the kind of thing I’d love to see.
 
Someone here said once that he felt the tuned cars on GT5 Prologue showed the tuning possibilitys for GT5. and I hope it's true.
 
Someone here said once that he felt the tuned cars on GT5 Prologue showed the tuning possibilitys for GT5. and I hope it's true.

That would make sense if that were true. Also, besides the obvious bodykits, wheels, and spoiler, the tuned cars in GT5P also had racing wheels installed in the cockpit rather than their stock counterparts. This (steering wheel accessory) would fit into the "almost every imaginable piece of the vehicle" quote from the interview.

I'm not sure about the brake calipers in the Tuned cars in GT5P as of now. Was that changed from the stock version too? Better question, what else was changed from its stock counterparts than what I mentioned?
 
I don't think its going into a massive amount of detail, if I'm being honest. I still expect Stage 1,2,3 N/A tuning, but I see it more as picking the make of your performance part, I.e. Garrett Stage 1 Turbocharger as aposed to a HKS Stage 1 Turbocharger. I think we will get more detail in various parts, such as more suspension options, I.e. Carbon fibre strut braces etc. Perhaps the addition of full and half roll cages, kinda important now we have roll over.

I'm also hoping these modifications have a visual impact, I want to see my Heinz sized exhaust on the back of my Impreza STI. Perhaps we will have option of the number of exhaust pipes, I.e. one, two, three or four?

Wheels are a big thing this time too. I want to choose the rim sizes, as well as the make and type, colour is also important for me. I think we should be able to choose the colour and size of wheel, but should this force you to purchase new tyres as a result? 💡

Also, could we see a 'wear and tear' effect on vehicle parts, I.e. tyres. Should you have to replace your tyres or brakes after thrashing around the track, or are these just little 'cherrys' for the cake?

Visual modification? Not just wings and wheels, perhaps complete body kits, manufactuer approved kits too add to your car, BMW motorsport offer all sorts of additions that you can make to its M-line vehicles (330i M-sport for example).
 
It would be nice to be able to change a car's aluminum body into all carbon fiber!! Or at least some parts of it. I'm very excited about this new aspect of GT.
 
I want to be able to build a car from the ground up. Take a chassis, an engine, a shell etc. Then fit it with a mid-engined 4WD setup and that would be my perfect car. But thats a little optimistic.

But i do expect to be able to racing customize my cars, not just spoilers, but racing splitters, Diffusers, bodykits that increase downforce, the weight reduction tuning should be more in depth.

Basically, i want to be able to turn my road cars into racing cars. Past GT games always had a big difference between the road car and race models. They were lighter, capable of applying more downforce, more grip in the corners. There is no way to get a road version of a race car and tune it to the same sort of spec as the race version. Infact the only real way to racing modify cars in GT3 & 4 was to upgrade the power (and install a spoiler on GT4), as most racing models didn't go above 600bhp. But no matter how much you adjust the suspension, brake balance or reduce the weight, you were still lacking in the corners. Despite fitting the best brakes and reducing your cars weight, you still had to break earlier than all those racing modified cars around you.

I want to take that '89 Skyline that i bought at the beginning of the game and modify it so it can compete. The idea is like the modifications on GT1, except you do the modifying yourself (and at a much higher cost, i doubt 85k could bring an ordinary road car up to the standard of a 1,250,000cr GT500 racer)
 
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I hope for engine swap and the possibility to turn a fwd into a awd or rwd car.

Ok, this will destroy the car's character, but hey, what's the arcade mode for? :)

And as always, if you wouldn't like this feature, nobody would force you to use it.
 
Someone here said once that he felt the tuned cars on GT5 Prologue showed the tuning possibilitys for GT5. and I hope it's true.

I feel like it was me, but if it wasn't I certainly feel the same way. After all, they are called Concepts by GT. It would seem reasonable to call those the concepts for modifying cars. Anyone wanna place a bet on the Ford GT being PD's concept for Carbon Fibre parts?

I don't expect the same level of tuning for all cars, Ferrari's especially. but I imagine that whatever IS implemented is done so to the fullest detail. The FT-86 is the first example I've seen of a front engine, full hood car with engine modelling. So there is the possibility of even performance mods under the hood being modelled.

I do remember a video where there was a girl modeling a Brake caliper at PD. The significance could be more than what was originally witnessed.


Edit: And knowing PD, 90%+ of the parts that will go on the cars will be based of real-life performance tuning parts. The other 10% would most likely be body kits loosely based off of real life parts.
 
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I expect it to be like the tuned cars indeed.
Bodykits, performanceparts from diffrent marques (Garett/HKS,Bilstein/Whitepower, etc) also the interior detail and the standard thing like rims and spoilers.

Would be very nice to see if rim size effects performance ;-)
 
And as always, if you wouldn't like this feature, nobody would force you to use it.
So, people are not allowed to express their opinion on the features you would like eh? These are forums, so sweeping statements like that which basically say, "This is what I think and you can all go to hell", are rather childish.
 
So, people are not allowed to express their opinion on the features you would like eh? These are forums, so sweeping statements like that which basically say, "This is what I think and you can all go to hell", are rather childish.

Nomino, he never said that. All he's saying, is that if you didn't want to use engine swaps etc, then you don't have to use it. Stop jumping down everyone's throat, all you do is start arguements.
 
It would be nice when your engine blows off if you shift too often too late or your gears get damaged when you shift too often wrong...

Also what you sayed, if you put some turbo in a car that there is a possibility that the engine blows off...

(God I got to learn english :D)
 
All good ideas here. Why shouldn't we have these things? It is supposed to be the ultimate racing game. I kind of like this aspect in NFS:Shift, where you can take it from stock to "works", and you see the changes inside and out consistently. it's such a shame they porked the tuning in shift.
 
Give me a wind tunnel and a dyno, and I will be playing this game for endless years.
 
Nomino, is a saint, a god among men, his insights are both though provoking and genuine. His tone, as level as a calm lake on a windless day. Nomino, o Nomino, it is such a pleasure to read your rants and mindless complaining. Like a breath of fresh air.

On topic, i am excited by the tuning possibilities. Cant wait to see what options are available for an 87 RX-7. Hopefully Sony/PD beings an aggressive marketing campaign sooner rather than later. I would love to see GT Planet, Game Trailer, or whoever do an indepth preview of the game highlighting the features that are confirmed but remain unseen (tuning, weather, day/night). 6 Months...

Side-Note: Have you guys seen the Forza 3 videos that are starting to pop up? IGN has a review, game trailers has a few clips... the graphics don't even top GT5P
 
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I’m hoping that individual parts can be damaged as a consequence of either not servicing the car properly, crashing the car or neglecting crucial parts when the performance has been increased e.g. drastically increasing the power of the engine and not fitting something like heavy duty con-rod bolts or drive-shafts could result in catastrophic damage so you will eventually need to spend more money. This will make car tuning a lot more involving and realistic so you can’t just stick a massive turbo on a Fiat Panda and it runs sweet as a nut forever.

Dude, this level of tuning detail simply won't exist in the game
 
I agree that nomino is a little bitch.

Also, i am excited by the tuning possibilities. Cant wait to see what options are available for an 87 RX-7.

Side-Note: Have you guys seen the Forza 3 videos that are starting to pop up? IGN has a review, game trailers has a few clips... the graphics don't even top GT5P

The moderators will pick you up on your insults towards other members because its against the AUP, so be careful.

I think most of us have seen the various Forza video's and screenshots, they can be found all over the forum in GT vs. Forza threads, and yes I agree, they don't even compare to GT5! :sly:
 
Dude, this level of tuning detail simply won't exist in the game

It would be awesome though :sly:

I really want to see Bodykits, Rims (where you can choose the size and width and offset :dopey:) and a little more detailed tuning than in gt4 for turbo and n/a stuff.

If they could pull that off, combined with a livery editor, I wouldn't ever need another game :dopey:
 
While the current system of upgrading in stages is simple enough for anyone to be able to make their cars faster, i wish they would let you mess with the cam profiles, fuel system, and actually be able to bore or stroke any engine.
 
Some things I'd love to see...

-Carbon fiber parts proper visual representation as well as corresponding changes in weight.
-Visual representation of modified exhaust systems
-Body modifications would be nice so long as they're tasteful (Any of the tuned cars in GT5P for example)
-Engine and drivetrain swaps/conversions (Including cross-platform) would be fantastic, but again, must be done right. As unfortunate as it is, a Quad-turbo W16 will NOT fit in a Peel P50 (I reckon the motor with 7-speed transmission is no less than twice as large as the car).
 
Dude, this level of tuning detail simply won't exist in the game

Because they have built GT5 from scratch I agree it’s very unlikely they will go to that kind of level, it’s maybe something we have to wait until GT6 or 7 for, but I don't think it would be technically impossible so there's no harm in hoping.
 
Because they have built GT5 from scratch I agree it’s very unlikely they will go to that kind of level, it’s maybe something we have to wait until GT6 or 7 for, but I don't think it would be technically impossible so there's no harm in hoping.

GT the game itself could do it. However, the PS3 would never have enough power. Something that in depth would be PC bound. 8gb of RAM, 1gb graphics cards, you name it. It would be sweet as heck though.
 
I dont think it would be too hard on resources. Fitting a massive turbo but not an intercooler will cause damage. I think they could implement things like that somehow. In more detail though obviously, not just how I said it :)

I just thought. I wonder if you will be able to weld LSD's for drift cars...
 
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Why People still say, IF we get Aerodynamic Modifications?, Kaz Himself Said that we Could change every imaginable Piece of the car, Naming Sidesteps, Bumpers, Spoilers and Rims...

P.D: If my memory doesnt Fails, it was in the MeriStation Interview.
 
Why People still say, IF we get Aerodynamic Modifications?, Kaz Himself Said that we Could change every imaginable Piece of the car, Naming Sidesteps, Bumpers, Spoilers and Rims...

P.D: If my memory doesnt Fails, it was in the MeriStation Interview.

Well... I guess people are just being careful not to get disappointed if it isn't there
 
Nomino, he never said that. All he's saying, is that if you didn't want to use engine swaps etc, then you don't have to use it. Stop jumping down everyone's throat, all you do is start arguements.

Nomino, is a saint, a god among men, his insights are both though provoking and genuine. His tone, as level as a calm lake on a windless day. Nomino, o Nomino, it is such a pleasure to read your rants and mindless complaining. Like a breath of fresh air...

I just want to mention that Nomino started arguments with me on 3 different threads, one of which was mine and I took some time to create it, made a poll too. When I ignored him and not replied he still posted with personal insults aimed at me. Due to his posts, me reporting them and the ensuing investigation the thread was closed. He then sent me a pm saying "Sorry" in the title and when I opened it it said "Haha, sucker". It seems like his sole purpose is to cause problems. I know this is off topic but I just wanted you guys to know you're not alone, I've dealt with his attitude first hand too. :grumpy:
 
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The gold standard in the genre, inexplicably, is still Need For Speed Underground 2. Quite frankly, if PD can pull off anything near that thorough in customization options, I'd be very happy. But I don't think the bog standard way things have been done since GT2 is enough anymore.
 
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